Ray Rays Pledge - Child Vehicular Heatstroke

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  • jokalima
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2012
    • 477

    Ray Rays Pledge - Child Vehicular Heatstroke



    I believe some providers already do this. Just wanted to share it so there is more awareness. Monday, another 15 month old died here in CT because he was left in a car. This is happening to often, with the stressful lives that parents have, we have to do what we can to help.
  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #2
    While I think this is a nice idea, I have issues with this type of thing.

    The website states: (blue phrases)

    Contrary to public perception, the majority of child hot car deaths happen as a result of a responsible, loving parent unintentionally forgetting his/her precious cargo in the backseat

    I have issues with the words "responsible" and "unintentional"

    They are contradictory in that context. I get that parents are busy and preoccupied and stressed and are often multi-tasking but seriously....STOP!! and put your child first.

    Someone's MOST precious cargo should not be "forgotten" and if that is seriously the situation, then a campaign about parenting priorities should be done instead.

    Put the cell phone down, make extra time for a Starbucks run AFTER your child is at daycare.

    Child vehicular heatstroke was practically unheard of prior to placing kids in the backseat

    I do NOT believe this to be true at all. I think the reason child vehicular heatstroke was unheard of is because there weren't so many distractions causing a parent to forget about their babies..... Cell phones, DVD players, GPS devices, frazzled, over worked parents living on VERY little sleep, trying to do way too much at the expense of their child.

    Blaming the "backseat" is ridiculous and just another ploy to pass the buck about personal responsibilities.


    I apologize to anyone my comments offend but this subject hits close to home and is a sore spot with me.
    It is also a subject that I am tired of hearing about. Atleast in regards to how the parents bear no responsibility in this and efforts to promote eliminating this problem by getting child care providers and others to do more.

    It is a tragedy pure and simple but NOT one that isn't preventable and as a child care provider I am angry that this is being passed off onto us as another thing WE should be responsible for.

    I think people would be better off educating parents on how to NOT forget their child. Educate parents about how coffee runs, cell phones, Facebook and every other distraction out there CAN NOT come before your parental responsibilities to your child.

    NOT trying to start a debate and apologies to the OP as I don't mean to lead the thread away from your point. I am done and walking away.
    I just needed to get that out there and say it.

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    • jokalima
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2012
      • 477

      #3
      I understand your point. But I don't see it as us provider's being responsible. We shouldn't be, it is not our child and it is not in my home, so I should not be responsible. But if one morning little johnny does not show up and I was expecting him to do so, why can't I text mom asking if they are coming?

      I agree, parents have to be more aware and have their priorities straight. For example, yesterday I saw a tv show where they said a 4 year old died in a pool. Mom said the lifeguards did not have enough training, ok, understood, but, where was she? I have a almost 4 yo, take him to the pool every week but he is my responsibility and no one elses. Parents are just to distracted lately and the truth is that their children not always come 1st, even if they say they do we know they don't. But me personally, if I can do something to help, I will, it will just make me feel better. Not only with the car situation, but keeping an eye on other children wherever and whenever I can.

      I also go to the park a lot, I see how mom's just get distracted while talking to each other. I've seen young toddlers wonder away from them and they don't even notice. I keep an eye on them but won't alert the parent. The reason I don't alert them is because I want them to realize what they are doing wrong and yes, get scared.

      I just don't see that I will be taking on more responsibility by calling or texting someone, it really doesn't cost anything for me to do it. But I do respect your opinion.

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      • Cradle2crayons
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 3642

        #4
        Originally posted by jokalima
        I understand your point. But I don't see it as us provider's being responsible. We shouldn't be, it is not our child and it is not in my home, so I should not be responsible. But if one morning little johnny does not show up and I was expecting him to do so, why can't I text mom asking if they are coming?

        I agree, parents have to be more aware and have their priorities straight. For example, yesterday I saw a tv show where they said a 4 year old died in a pool. Mom said the lifeguards did not have enough training, ok, understood, but, where was she? I have a almost 4 yo, take him to the pool every week but he is my responsibility and no one elses. Parents are just to distracted lately and the truth is that their children not always come 1st, even if they say they do we know they don't. But me personally, if I can do something to help, I will, it will just make me feel better. Not only with the car situation, but keeping an eye on other children wherever and whenever I can.

        I also go to the park a lot, I see how mom's just get distracted while talking to each other. I've seen young toddlers wonder away from them and they don't even notice. I keep an eye on them but won't alert the parent. The reason I don't alert them is because I want them to realize what they are doing wrong and yes, get scared.

        I just don't see that I will be taking on more responsibility by calling or texting someone, it really doesn't cost anything for me to do it. But I do respect your opinion.
        So what happens if a child care provider don't call a no show... Then they can be smeared by the media, Dhs, and parents for dropping the ball?

        I can see it now... "This child's life could have been spared if only the daycare provider had called to check in when the child didn't show up"

        Then do you think that provider will ever get business again?

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        • LysesKids
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2014
          • 2836

          #5
          I have been doing the phone calls for the last few years when a child is late... I even state in my policies why. I want to know where that baby is if they aren't here on time ( I do 1-18 months only) because many of my newer families are pulled in so many directions nowen days

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          • Sugar Magnolia
            Blossoms Blooming
            • Apr 2011
            • 2647

            #6
            I do call if I am not called first. I ask parents to call in ALL absences, and if they don't, I call and remind them sternly to report absences, for this exact reason.

            It takes about 30 seconds.I don't mind.

            This is the subtropics. Heat kills quickly in Florida.

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            • tehck_1013
              Provider In Training
              • May 2014
              • 96

              #7
              This was a horrible start to my day. Tears and all. Man I am so emotional. I am well versed on the subject because of how prevalent it is but it still hurts reading about it it also hurts that the parents that this kind of thing happens to only realize how bad they were after the fact, when they take a stand after its too late. I realize how in the bigger picture, souls have to be sacrificed for awareness to save others but it isn't right. Tired of hearing about this stuff too...

              parents?.... WAKE UP!

              ETA: We take care of their children most of the day, and do everything that that job entails - which is A LOT. We need to remember to do a lot of things, but it all gets done. The parents take the kids home, feed them (hopefully), and put them to bed... They don't do too much, yet a bunch can't even remember to take them to school.
              Last edited by tehck_1013; 07-09-2014, 08:12 AM. Reason: edited to add

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              • midaycare
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 5658

                #8
                I always call anyway, but don't feel it should be my responsibility to do so. I'm just a worry wart, so if I have a no show, my mind is always, "Oh no! They were in a horrible accident on the way here!" But I only have up to 6 kids. If I had 12 or worked in a center, it would be a lot tougher.

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                • KiddieCahoots
                  FCC Educator
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1349

                  #9
                  Seeing all those precious little faces......., just broke my heart.


                  I always do the calls or text. Don't feel it's our responsibility though.
                  Although we're required to make the call or text in my state with state subsidized care.

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                  • SignMeUp
                    Family ChildCare Provider
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 1325

                    #10
                    Thank you, Blackcat.
                    I have a great concern that this will become a legal requirement for providers at some point. We already have far greater responsibility level than parents, by law, in a multitude of areas. Think about where car seat safety is going - we are becoming responsible for appropriate use in numerous vehicles that are used after children are signed out and off of our property. And if a crib is deemed unuseable, we must document how we destroyed it so that it cannot be used by someone else. This is going in a ridiculous direction.
                    While I do generally call if I don't hear from a family, I do not want to become legally required to do so. Not to mention that, as a business, if we sign a pledge like this, I worry (never used to, but do now) that that could be used against us if we actually had this situation occur with one of our families, and we had not reached the family by phone.
                    Plus, in the past, the families most likely to forget to tell me when they will be out are the least likely to pick up the phone when I call to see where they are. So, how many times am I supposed to put my kids who ARE HERE and ARE MY RESPONSIBILITY on hold, so that I can repeatedly call the family whose child is mot here?

                    At some point, child care providers will be held legally responsible for everything.

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                    • SignMeUp
                      Family ChildCare Provider
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 1325

                      #11
                      Sorry, on tablet and can't scroll.

                      I wanted to say that I think it is a good idea IN THEORY, and that I will do so when I can. But I won't sign a pledge.

                      Also, I first saw this pledge when it was sent by the CCR here, to all providers. Which definitely tells me the direction this is going, and it isn't a good one.

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                      • Michelle
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1932

                        #12
                        BC
                        I totally get it and agree with you that it is the parents responsibility
                        but what if this does happen to a child in your daycare?

                        What if a baby is late, you remember this thread, would you stand by your beliefs or call the parent?
                        I agree parents are too busy but just one phone call can save a precious babies life
                        I have always called for years and one time I called and a parent that worked graveyard had slept in and was suppose to sleep for just an hour and wake up to get the kids to school didn't wake up and the kids were all over the house alone and very young!
                        Not my responsibility but I love those kids and don't want to attend their funerals. I called and mom rushed home to wake him up (very good responsible family with just a crazy schedule )

                        So I will always call or insist that they call if they will be absent because I love my kiddos

                        Also, I noticed that this happens a lot with dads
                        I don't know the statistics but is this because women have maternal instincts?

                        I know this has happened with moms but it seems not as much as dads

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                        • jokalima
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 477

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                          So what happens if a child care provider don't call a no show... Then they can be smeared by the media, Dhs, and parents for dropping the ball?

                          I can see it now... "This child's life could have been spared if only the daycare provider had called to check in when the child didn't show up"

                          Then do you think that provider will ever get business again?
                          We shouldn't be obligated to do it. I did not share it because I believe we HAVE to do it. Just for those that have not thought about doing it maybe they will want to start. But no, I don't think we should be responsible for this, but if someone wants to help keep a child safe by doing so, then that is OK as well.

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                          • MrsSteinel'sHouse
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1509

                            #14
                            I also have an issue with being legally responsible to call. And now, in our area it is hands free phones only so most of my parents wouldn't be picking up if they are on the road. Can you imagine me calling their work the moment they are late? What if you don't reach them? Are you suppose to call the police? Please go look in the parking lot at______ to see if there is a child in the car? And who is going to be responsible when they go to the grocery store? or the movies?

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                            • Sugar Magnolia
                              Blossoms Blooming
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 2647

                              #15
                              I just don't want to be the daycare provider that find themselves saying "I noticed Baby X wasn't here. I could have called to check. I didn't. Baby X is dead.and.30 seconds of my time could have saved a life."

                              I don't really have an issue if calling were mandated. I would draw the line at.accepting legal responsibility though. Only the parents should be held legally.responsible. I do think charges are warranted against parents who do this and a death occurs.

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