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  • mrsnj
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 465

    And I Got My Visitor Today!

    As predicted divorce momma drama called DYFS....on me.....the girls father....the girlfriend....and just for measure the girlfriends exhusband! Reported us all for various reasons.

    I see the car pull up and think 'here we go'. The guy is actually very nice. Seems he had already visited with the girls ahead of time and so already had a feeling where this was going. I whipped out alllllllllll my documents. The court letter, the notes I have been documenting on issues I had been having, the term notice, emails, text, etc. The guy sat there like -------> So he says, why do you think mom is all of a sudden calling if the girls has been here for 5 years. I said "Because in an hour she is going to court for a custody hearing. Here is all the documents........The court letter. The notes. The term notice she received for abandoning the girls in care." Mom said I was watching 20 kids. That I left the 20 kids outside all day and in the care of (Get ready) my 9 year old daughter while I left to do things. That I was abusing the children, using excessive force etc etc etc.

    Oh but its not over yet. In comes another worker. She is handling the case against myself in regard to MY OWN CHILDREN. The other worker is there for the abuse and neglect against the DC. Seems I beat and abuse and neglect my own children too. And my 'mentally retarded son' was abusing the kids as well. (BTW I don't have a mentally retarded son )

    They were very nice. As soon as I whipped out all the letters and copies they were just shaking their heads. Didn't wake the kids. Just peeked in at one time on some of them sleeping. Talked to my older kids (both DC and my own). Done.

    The lady mentions the office she is from and I state oh you know "J". She asked how I knew her....said she was one of my clients. "J" is head of the DYFS in my county! So the guy says "So you have had clients who work for DYFS?!" I said "Oh yes. Actually I have one currently. She works for the XYZ department...oh and I have a police officers child and a few teachers too". Another head shake. Yep. Not that divorce drama momma knows all that but SURPRISE!

    So the guy chatted about the house and how nice it was and the dogs I own and packed up and left. LOL!

    The lady finished up and said she doesn't see a reason to keep this case open. They just need to interview my 'mentally retarded son' who was at work at the time to make sure I don't beat and duct tape him and then she is going to rec they close the case.

    I have (aka HAD) one very special parent!! I mean if your going to call on people, you might want to at least come close to reality instead of lying and wasting everyones time.
  • Sugar Magnolia
    Blossoms Blooming
    • Apr 2011
    • 2647

    #2
    People who make blatantly phony abuse/neglect calls NEED to face jail time.
    If you file a false police report, you face legal consequences. This should be treated no differently. Period.

    (((hugs))) how awful you had to go through this.

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    • Josiegirl
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 10834

      #3
      Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
      People who make blatantly phony abuse/neglect calls NEED to face jail time.
      If you file a false police report, you face legal consequences. This should be treated no differently. Period.

      (((hugs))) how awful you had to go through this.

      ^^^^^All this exactly^^^^^

      I'm glad you were well-prepared. I couldn't agree more they should face prosecution to the fullest because look at the man-hours it uses and takes away from real cases. What an idiot dcm.

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      • e.j.
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 3738

        #4
        Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
        People who make blatantly phony abuse/neglect calls NEED to face jail time.
        If you file a false police report, you face legal consequences. This should be treated no differently. Period.

        (((hugs))) how awful you had to go through this.
        I agree. The whole time I was reading about what happened, I kept thinking, "This really needs to be a crime!"

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        • tehck_1013
          Provider In Training
          • May 2014
          • 96

          #5
          WOW! If you were local, I'd honestly believe that the lady you were dealing with is my stepdaughters mother........ I am so sorry you had to deal with that - but unbelievable, HUGE kudos to you for being so amazingly prepared. I am worried about my own "baby mama" causing problems for me down the road after she gets wind of me doing daycare. People like her and your DCM just seriously have nothing better to do than ruin peoples lives. She probably had no idea how good you would be with record keeping Great job! happyface

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          • midaycare
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 5658

            #6
            I am sorry this happened, but laughing at what happened when they got there! Too funny about your clients working at the same place as them ::

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            • mrsnj
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 465

              #7
              I will just be glad when it's done. Talk about one stressful week. The caseworker looked over my info n said "she's so going to be mad when she sees all this". I said she already has. This is why your here. Another head shake

              I'm hoping to be done Monday or tue.

              The father was reported for so called doing drugs n abusing the kids n not proving clothes n a bed for the girls. Like that can't be all proven. So silly. I'm not sure what the girl friend n ex did.

              I just wanna move on. Done

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              • NightOwl
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 2722

                #8
                You should seriously see if there is some sort of law that protects providers from false claims. Some states have them. She could do jail time.

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                • mrsnj
                  New Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 465

                  #9
                  Really?

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                  • NightOwl
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 2722

                    #10
                    Yes ma'am. Someone was talking about it just a week or so ago. Maybe BC knows?

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                    • NightOwl
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 2722

                      #11
                      She shouldn't be allowed to slander you and try to ruin your good name with no consequences. That's bull ****.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wednesday
                        Yes ma'am. Someone was talking about it just a week or so ago. Maybe BC knows?
                        From another thread:

                        Originally posted by nannyde
                        Until States start penalizing parents for unfounded complaints this will never end. I think Utah has this.
                        Originally posted by Meeko
                        They do. They won't investigate any complaint at all if it is over 6 weeks past the date in question. Our training specialist told us that most complaints (how sad is this) are simply parents who are mad at being made to pay and want to get back at the provider. It usually takes about 6 weeks before they finally realize that the provider really DOES intend to get her money...and so they call licensing with trumped up complaints. Licensing are then happy to tell them "Too bad...so sad...times up" A LEGITIMATE claim is usually filed straight away.

                        If the dept. find that a complaint was malicious...they file charges.

                        "By statute, the Department is not allowed to investigate an anonymous complaint. The statute also does not allow us to investigate complaints that allege incidents which occurred more than 6 weeks prior to the report of the incidents.

                        By submitting a complaint, you acknowledge that the information you submit is accurate. If a person knowingly gives false information to Child Care Licensing for the purposes of changing the status of a child care license or certificate, the person giving the false information may be guilty of a Class B Misdemeanor."


                        Complaints will still happen of course, but it's nice to know licensing has our backs at least a little bit.

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                        • NightOwl
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 2722

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          From another thread:
                          I knew she'd know....

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                          • mrsnj
                            New Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 465

                            #14
                            I seriously did not know all that.

                            I know you can call anonymously here though. I read online where someone was called on three times a week for several weeks before CPS stopped coming. I mean thats simply harassment!

                            I have been trying to find state law but its like pulling teeth. Too early in the morning. LOL! I found basic info that states I would have to be able to prove that it was done falsely and with intent to cause issues and why. I think that is clear in my case as my case workers apologized and all but ran out the door. The timing is the key here.....Abandoned in care, refusal to pay full tuition this week, term notice, threat and demand sent to me about returning the money or she would take me to court, last day of children being allowed here was Wed, court hearing Friday and she called at 3:45pm on Thursday. It shouted so loud my case workers all but laughed. Now I am not sure about the case against the dad/girlfriend/exhusband. But I think I could easily prove it. And the things she said in there was unbelievable like my children and my having 20 kids here running around the neighborhood! Some of the things he said were not even neglect and he doesn't even understand why she would even call and file for it (Like her daughter cutting another childs hair and my putting her daughter in time out He's like 'What is that!? Thats what you should do" ). I was also able to find that I can file my own civil suit as well. Otherwise it is recommend it goes through the prosecutors office. BUT I am all for black and white written info. I want the law. I cannot find that.

                            I don't really want to play her chess game where she makes a move and I make a move. She does that with the dad. It is a daily issue over there. But on the other hand I really don't want visits three times a week either! Geesh! And she is nuts enough to do that!

                            A parent informed me that I should get a copy of the complaint when it is closed. Is that true? Cause that will help me better direct me.

                            My good name is true. I had to notify the parents they may receive a call from CPS and they came to visit. How nice is that!!? But most already know the divorce momma drama and the other was a new client BUT she is a prek teacher herself and I just got an eye roll. But still. I don't want them harassed either. I will lose clients that way

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                            • llpa
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 460

                              #15
                              I really admire your preparedness!! It is something I need to get better at. So glad you have this hopefully out of the way now. :hug:

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