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  • spinnymarie
    mac n peas
    • May 2013
    • 890

    Infant Chairs with Backs?

    Is anyone else required to have these? In IL our infants are 6 wks to 15m per licensing, and the first item on my list of required supplies is
    1. sufficient infant-sized tables and chairs with backs for infants able to sit alone. One chair per infant; no folding chairs.

    Anyone know what this means?
  • Heidi
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 7121

    #2
    That could mean clip-on chairs or booster seats, or it could mean child-sized chairs such as these:


    I don't know if any state REQUIRES the little chairs, though. In WI, the QRIS/FCCERS recommends it. It's + points for sure.

    If you have a mixed age group, it's a real challenge to have proportionate tables and chairs for all the ages, and also do family style dining. Especially if space is limited.

    Last edited by Blackcat31; 06-27-2014, 08:04 AM. Reason: fixed link

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    • LysesKids
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2014
      • 2836

      #3
      First off I don't know any infant that can sit by themselves before 4 or 5 months, so in my eyes that is useless... you are suppose to hold a baby when they eat if they are that young. Even when I was a registered infant childcare in Galena, IL (2008-2010) I didn't have to do this.

      I also feed my kids family style, but I have special seats/boosters called Minui Handysitts http://www.diapers.com/p/productname-19946

      They have an infant cushion addition for about 50 that has a 5 part harness instead of the 3 point. Spendy, but Eco friendly and mine have been used over 4 years now... they are holding up like no other booster I've seen

      Last edited by Blackcat31; 06-27-2014, 08:07 AM.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        Originally posted by LysesKids
        First off I don't know any infant that can sit by themselves before 4 or 5 months, so in my eyes that is useless... you are suppose to hold a baby when they eat if they are that young. Even when I was a registered infant childcare in Galena, IL (2008-2010) I didn't have to do this.

        I also feed my kids family style, but I have special seats/boosters called Minui Handysitts http://www.diapers.com/p/productname-19946

        They have an infant cushion addition for about 50 that has a 5 part harness instead of the 3 point. Spendy, but Eco friendly and mine have been used over 4 years now... they are holding up like no other booster I've seen
        When I click on your link, it says those chairs were discontinued by vendor. I am not sure if they are available through another or not.

        ETA: I googled them and found a couple other vendors that still carry them.
        Family-owned and operated since 1933, come and learn why parents have been choosing Albee Baby and our industry-leading rewards for nearly a century.


        They are really cute and what nice option. VERY storable too!
        Last edited by Blackcat31; 06-27-2014, 08:08 AM.

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        • spinnymarie
          mac n peas
          • May 2013
          • 890

          #5
          I agree with everyone - it seems very strange to me as well. We have high chairs, but those are listed separately from this item?
          I would assume it is those tiny 5" chairs, but those are super expensive so I def don't want to buy them if I don't have to, and, again, I see no real purpose...
          Just wondering if anyone else ran into this
          Here is what I'm looking at: http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/...8ZZ9996dR.html
          The very first thing there at that link.
          Actually, there are MANY things I'm confused about, TBH. I guess a call to licensing is in order, but I assumed this could be easily figured out?

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          • Heidi
            Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 7121

            #6
            Originally posted by spinnymarie
            I agree with everyone - it seems very strange to me as well. We have high chairs, but those are listed separately from this item?
            I would assume it is those tiny 5" chairs, but those are super expensive so I def don't want to buy them if I don't have to, and, again, I see no real purpose...
            Just wondering if anyone else ran into this
            Here is what I'm looking at: http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/...8ZZ9996dR.html
            The very first thing there at that link.
            Actually, there are MANY things I'm confused about, TBH. I guess a call to licensing is in order, but I assumed this could be easily figured out?
            That is SO poorly written! So much open to interpretation there! Why would you need high chairs AND infant sized chairs? It should be high chairs, booster seats, OR infant sized chairs.

            Also...WALKERS are on the list, although optional. They aren't banned here; but certainly their use is discouraged now-a-days. I also find it weird that "adult rocker" is specified. I mean, sure, you need a piece of adult furniture, but it MUST be a rocker? :confused:

            LOL: I should really stop reading! It says "phonograph" and "records (at least 6)". :::::::: yeah, right! They should have written "Victrola"

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            • spinnymarie
              mac n peas
              • May 2013
              • 890

              #7
              Yes, thank you! It is SOOO poorly written and out of date that I can't even understand SO many of them, and it is ridiculously open to interpretation.
              I'm just going to be SO annoyed if I did something wrong and need them to come back, we have a tight deadline here!
              LOL at Victrola. Definitely a requirement for modern infant care

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              • LysesKids
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2014
                • 2836

                #8
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                When I click on your link, it says those chairs were discontinued by vendor. I am not sure if they are available through another or not.

                ETA: I googled them and found a couple other vendors that still carry them.
                Family-owned and operated since 1933, come and learn why parents have been choosing Albee Baby and our industry-leading rewards for nearly a century.


                They are really cute and what nice option. VERY storable too!
                I got them directly from Minui originally... they came into the states from Europe in 2010 when I first got them. Amazon has a few also

                They clean up nice

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                • spinnymarie
                  mac n peas
                  • May 2013
                  • 890

                  #9
                  Do they fold? We can't have folding chairs either.

                  ETA: NM I understand the chair now, it took me a while IMU they are generally supposed to be on a regular dining chair, correct? And you can buy extensions to put them on the floor?
                  However, I don't see how they'd be better than a high chair and/or the infant sized 5" chairs above, at least in my situation. But they are awfully cute.

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                  • LysesKids
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 2836

                    #10
                    Originally posted by spinnymarie
                    Do they fold? We can't have folding chairs either.

                    ETA: NM I understand the chair now, it took me a while IMU they are generally supposed to be on a regular dining chair, correct? And you can buy extensions to put them on the floor?
                    However, I don't see how they'd be better than a high chair and/or the infant sized 5" chairs above, at least in my situation. But they are awfully cute.
                    Yes the Minui fold up and are only 5 lbs... I found a complete set up including legs on Ebay for $99 a few minutes ago.

                    I have 4 antique & black basic seats and also 2 of the infant seat add on that has the 5 point harness; They work on any chair that has at least a 13" back (width, not height). The back hooks adjusts to many different heights - good for ages 6/7 months thru 5 years old

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                    • Annalee
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 5864

                      #11
                      We are still, at the moment ::, allowed to use high chairs but there are great debate going on with confinement and how long a child can be confined with licensing and QRIS (high chairs, exersaucers, bouncy seats) so I can see us at some point having to supply infant seating that does NOT confine...No, I do not agree, but absolutely nothing surprises me anymore!:confused:

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                      • craftymissbeth
                        Legally Unlicensed
                        • May 2012
                        • 2385

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Heidi
                        That is SO poorly written! So much open to interpretation there! Why would you need high chairs AND infant sized chairs? It should be high chairs, booster seats, OR infant sized chairs.

                        Also...WALKERS are on the list, although optional. They aren't banned here; but certainly their use is discouraged now-a-days. I also find it weird that "adult rocker" is specified. I mean, sure, you need a piece of adult furniture, but it MUST be a rocker? :confused:

                        LOL: I should really stop reading! It says "phonograph" and "records (at least 6)". :::::::: yeah, right! They should have written "Victrola"
                        :: I started reading the list and when I got to phonograph and records I immediately came back here to comment. Do they even readily sell those anymore? Like... why not just list that they need to have a way to play music and 6 different "albums"? Weird. :confused:

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                        • craftymissbeth
                          Legally Unlicensed
                          • May 2012
                          • 2385

                          #13
                          I read through the list...

                          Petroleum jelly or bland diaper-rash ointment.
                          This one bothers me because of the word "bland" as if you're going to give it a taste test to make sure it's not too spicy or flavorful ::

                          Also, you're required to keep bathing supplies on hand? That's interesting!

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                          • spinnymarie
                            mac n peas
                            • May 2013
                            • 890

                            #14
                            Ok, I've decided to scrap the list. Clearly it hasn't been updated since 1970 or something, and probably, at that time, all of these things were very clear (haha yeah right).
                            I'm going to use my best judgement. Which includes NO walkers, NO infant chairs with backs, and NO phonograph

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                            • Heidi
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7121

                              #15
                              Originally posted by spinnymarie
                              Ok, I've decided to scrap the list. Clearly it hasn't been updated since 1970 or something, and probably, at that time, all of these things were very clear (haha yeah right).
                              I'm going to use my best judgement. Which includes NO walkers, NO infant chairs with backs, and NO phonograph


                              I would HOPE that this is designed to be a suggestion list, not a mandated list. If it's mandated, it should be updated periodically. WI updates their's every 5 minutes, I think. They like to add little bits and pieces to keep things...ah...interesting.

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