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[Crystal]

Yes, Nikia, I would have termed on the spot. But, I get why you didn't, you have to feed your family!

When she said she didn't need a copy of your sick policy, I would have said, well, yes, apparently you do. I would have given it to her then and would have had her sign a statement saying that she now has a copy of it, you have reviewed it with her and any failure to comply would result in termination. Then she cannot say next time that she didn't know. I'd also tell her any time her child is required to see a doctor for illness she is required to bring a note from Dr. stating the illness and when the child may return to care. (that is in my policy book) I would still do this today, since you didn't do it at the time.

She knew....she's lying to you. The dr. would have told her that she can't return AND, if she thought it was okay, she would not have waited to tell you until end of day. I cannot stand being lied to....

Good luck girl, I hope the rest of the kids and your family don't get strep for the holidays....NOT FUN!

[MyAngels]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a minute. Before I do, however, I think you absolutely have every right to be upset over this whole situation, and I would be as well.

The comment by the parent about not being able to call in to work makes me wonder if she's not feeling some of the same pressures you and your family are. She may be concerned about losing her job, as well, which might make her do some of the things that she's doing to you, even though she knows better.

[Crystal]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a minute. Before I do, however, I think you absolutely have every right to be upset over this whole situation, and I would be as well.

The comment by the parent about not being able to call in to work makes me wonder if she's not feeling some of the same pressures you and your family are. She may be concerned about losing her job, as well, which might make her do some of the things that she's doing to you, even though she knows better.

You're probably right. And, I would feel badly for the parent and TRY to accomodate her. I will keep a sick child if I have the ability to do so AND the parent is honest with me about the child being ill. It's a two-way street IMO and we need to help our families out when we are able too, just as we would hope they would for us if we had a family emergency or something.....but they MUST be honest with me or they can hit the road.

[nikia]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a minute. Before I do, however, I think you absolutely have every right to be upset over this whole situation, and I would be as well.

The comment by the parent about not being able to call in to work makes me wonder if she's not feeling some of the same pressures you and your family are. She may be concerned about losing her job, as well, which might make her do some of the things that she's doing to you, even though she knows better.

I understand that completely and if the family didn't live with grandma who doesn't work I would have believed her story but she has someone who could have watched him. Although she made have had other obligations I didn't ask. So I do feel bad but I have found the nicer I am the more I get walked on.

You're probably right. And, I would feel badly for the parent and TRY to accomodate her. I will keep a sick child if I have the ability to do so AND the parent is honest with me about the child being ill. It's a two-way street IMO and we need to help our families out when we are able too, just as we would hope they would for us if we had a family emergency or something.....but they MUST be honest with me or they can hit the road.

I was to be flexible and nice but then I parents like the one sending with strep and I feel like I can't believe anyone
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[nikia]

Oops want to be not I was. Sorry tying on my phone

[MommyMuffin]

I was just wondering...has the kid been sick a lot..not in daycare a lot? Illness in their family?
Just wondering why mom cant take anymore time...what did she use it on. When I worked outside the home coworkers constantly abused sick leave. I am not saying that she is doing this but I cant help but wonder.

All jobs are different but I had 2 sick days a month available and they rolled over. I know my husband only gets 1 week a year so I know some people have limited days but doesnt she have family who can watch him?

I wouldnt feel bad and just take the kid.
The only person I would ever do that for is my one family who has no close relatives and just moved to town.
Of course I completely understand how you need the income!!! ((Hugs to you!))

[nikia]

I was just wondering...has the kid been sick a lot..not in daycare a lot? Illness in their family?
Just wondering why mom cant take anymore time...what did she use it on. When I worked outside the home coworkers constantly abused sick leave. I am not saying that she is doing this but I cant help but wonder.

All jobs are different but I had 2 sick days a month available and they rolled over. I know my husband only gets 1 week a year so I know some people have limited days but doesnt she have family who can watch him?

I wouldnt feel bad and just take the kid.
The only person I would ever do that for is my one family who has no close relatives and just moved to town.
Of course I completely understand how you need the income!!! ((Hugs to you!))

The child has been here all of the time he was scheduled to be, but on Monday she was 30 mins late for pic up. She called me on her way here and said she took a pain pill and fell asleep. I said oh I thought you were working. Her response was well I left early for a toothache. I have a feeling she does that a lot and leaves him here.

[Crystal]

It's quite common for parents to have no sick time left this time of year.....usually because they used it for themselves.

I have been very fortunate that my families tend to use their sick time for their kids.....even when my parents are sick hey go to work so they can save the sick time for their sick kids.

[nannyde]

I will keep a sick child if I have the ability to do so AND the parent is honest with me about the child being ill.

Not directy to you but for others:

Just keep in mind that your State Regulations may not allow you the option to provide care for children who are ill or contagious. Also, if you are insured your insurance company may not allow this in order to maintain your policy.

For providers that don't have a second person on site or the physical space to segregate and independently care for contagious children this can be nearly impossible. The State may allow the care of moderately ill children BUT the call on whether or not the illness will be moderate if passed to the other children is very difficult to make in the begining of an illness. I'm a RN with 31 years experience and most often I can not tell the gravity of a child's illness at onset.

It's a HUGE liability to care for children who have a high liklihood of contagious illness. What is moderate to one child may end up being deadly to the next child. If you make the call to provide care and one of the other children contracts the illness and has severe or life threatening results it can put an end to your business and your ability to rebuild your business in the future. It only takes ONE mistake... one miscalculation... one underestimation of illness to affect your career in a seriously negative way. Be cautious of offering that because one parent one day states they are unable to provide care for their ill child. That ONE day will seem meaningless to you when you are facing the consequences of a decision that would not be sanctioned by the Doctors and insurers of the OTHER kids.

I think you need to be very experienced and very knowledgeable to knowingly care for children who present symptoms and a high liklihood of contagious illness. You also need the insurance to back up that decision and an okay from your State and/or County Health Department.

[MommyMuffin]

It's a HUGE liability to care for children who have a high liklihood of contagious illness. You also need the insurance to back up that decision and an okay from your State and/or County Health Department.

This is good information. I am somewhat of a safety nut. I guess I would rather be safe than sorry. Granted most of the time it could be just too much juice or someother common simple reason for a symptom but you never know and the license information does have rules about symptoms. Thanks for the reminder!

[Crystal]

all true Nannyde.

FTR, I only care for ill children who have minor illness and only if I am able to provide the level of care they need. I am fortunate to have an assistant and the space to do this. AND, it's very rare that a parent has asked me to do so.

[nikia]

Not directy to you but for others:

Just keep in mind that your State Regulations may not allow you the option to provide care for children who are ill or contagious. Also, if you are insured your insurance company may not allow this in order to maintain your policy.

For providers that don't have a second person on site or the physical space to segregate and independently care for contagious children this can be nearly impossible. The State may allow the care of moderately ill children BUT the call on whether or not the illness will be moderate if passed to the other children is very difficult to make in the begining of an illness. I'm a RN with 31 years experience and most often I can not tell the gravity of a child's illness at onset.

It's a HUGE liability to care for children who have a high liklihood of contagious illness. What is moderate to one child may end up being deadly to the next child. If you make the call to provide care and one of the other children contracts the illness and has severe or life threatening results it can put an end to your business and your ability to rebuild your business in the future. It only takes ONE mistake... one miscalculation... one underestimation of illness to affect your career in a seriously negative way. Be cautious of offering that because one parent one day states they are unable to provide care for their ill child. That ONE day will seem meaningless to you when you are facing the consequences of a decision that would not be sanctioned by the Doctors and insurers of the OTHER kids.

I think you need to be very experienced and very knowledgeable to knowingly care for children who present symptoms and a high liklihood of contagious illness. You also need the insurance to back up that decision and an okay from your State and/or County Health Department.

This is very good information, Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this. I am now scared to have any sick children :: but that may be a good thing.