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  • meli829
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 47

    What Would You Have Done?

    DCB''s temp just kept climbing yesterday, but only reached 100.4 around pickup so I didn't call mom to get him as she was going to be there in half an hour anyway. She said she'd let me know how he was doing and give me a call that night. No call came and she shows up this morning with DCB and Tempra and says she gave him some last night and his fever went down to 99. I tell her that he can't stay here if he isn't fever free without meds. She insisted that before she gave him Tempra this morning his temp was below 100 and she gave it to him just in case. So I let him stay but told her if his temp goes back to 100 she will have to pick him up. Did I do the right thing? Part of me wishes I wouldn't have accepted him until he was fever free for 24 hours as it states in my contact. I just the other kids or my daughter don't get sick now! Ughh!
  • marniewon
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 897

    #2
    What I would have done is told her at pick-up yesterday that since his temp got to 100.4, that he would have to stay home tomorrow (today) and until his temp was under 100 w/o meds. That would have avoided the awkward scene at the door this morning, and the possibility that you or the rest of the kids will catch what he's coming down with. If his temp does go back up after meds wear off, make sure to tell her he can't come tomorrow either, that way she won't show up at your door expecting you to keep him.

    Hope you all stay healthy despite this!!

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    • meli829
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 47

      #3
      Thanks, yeah I am kicking myself for not having done that. Anyway, took his temp and it is 99.7 WITH meds. I'm waiting for it to wear off and then I'm calling mom and will make sure to tell her this time that he can't come tomorrow either. He had a blowout this morning too, and it was diarrhea, so I'm suspecting something more is going on. I had a good relationship with her but now I feel taken advantage of. Anyway, lesson learned.

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      • nannyde
        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
        • Mar 2010
        • 7320

        #4
        Originally posted by meli829
        DCB''s temp just kept climbing yesterday, but only reached 100.4 around pickup so I didn't call mom to get him as she was going to be there in half an hour anyway. She said she'd let me know how he was doing and give me a call that night. No call came and she shows up this morning with DCB and Tempra and says she gave him some last night and his fever went down to 99. I tell her that he can't stay here if he isn't fever free without meds. She insisted that before she gave him Tempra this morning his temp was below 100 and she gave it to him just in case. So I let him stay but told her if his temp goes back to 100 she will have to pick him up. Did I do the right thing? Part of me wishes I wouldn't have accepted him until he was fever free for 24 hours as it states in my contact. I just the other kids or my daughter don't get sick now! Ughh!
        She insisted that before she gave him Tempra this morning his temp was below 100 and she gave it to him just in case.

        This is the money shot. In case of what? In case he has a fever?

        I can't keep him in case he has a fever that I can't see because of the tylenol. He needs to go home just in case he has one.

        My policy is fever free for 24 hours without the use of fever reducing meds. Once the parent brings the child on fever reducing meds they automatically can't stay. I have no way to determine if they are fever free if they come after taking fever reducing medication.

        Ugh
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        • marniewon
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 897

          #5
          You could call her now, if he has a fever with meds and diarhea (sp). I would. It's not like she's not waiting for the call, she knows she doped him to get a few hours at work, and she knows you WILL be calling when the med wears off.

          In the meantime, don't breathe!! j/k Hope you all stay healthy!

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          • momofboys
            Advanced Daycare Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 2560

            #6
            I would call mom now. If his temp is alwready almost 100 on meds it will soon be over 100. I would tell her you need her to pick up within 1/2 hr or however far she is from your home & that he is not allowed to return until Friday. Good luck!

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            • meli829
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 47

              #7
              I just double checked with the oral thermometer and it is a bit higher now at 101.1. I'm calling her now.

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              • DCMom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 871

                #8
                I agree with janarae, she's just waiting for the call. And I would be calling her to pick up, that isn't fair to you or the child.

                Why, why, why do parents do this to their kids?
                I get that you have job responsibilities, but this is your kid and they are sick! Do you think he/she wants to be anywhere but their bed, near their mom when they don't feel well?

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                • meli829
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 47

                  #9
                  She totally was expecting my call, and she will be here in half in hour. The poor kid is just sitting in his high chair looking miserable. I don't believe he didn't have a fever this morning because the meds should technically still be working as she gave them to him at 7 this morning and it is now 9:30.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DCMom
                    Why, why, why do parents do this to their kids?
                    They don't want to stay home and take care of a sick kid. Work is easier.
                    They don't want to pay for day care they aren't getting.

                    This is a good example of how it bites you in the butt. She could have stayed home today and had a shot at bringing him tomorrow. Now she's blown today and tomorrow.

                    OP do NOT allow her to bring him tomorrow. You have a REALLY good chance that she will call you tonight or in the morning and tell you that he has been excellent all day... no fever... no diarrhea.. that it ended when she picked him up at ten so she wants to bring him back at ten tomorrow.

                    It's very rare for parents to pick kids up early in the morning on day one and not want them back in care on day two. About 99 percent of the time they say that the kid was not sick at all in their care after they left your house. They call and say they are eating GREAT.. had a huge lunch and supper and are up running around the house.. perfectly fine.

                    These are the "words" they say to buy day care the next day after an early exclusion. If you exclude at nap time or after nap time you normally don't have it. If you exclude in the morning you have a REALLY good chance that they are going to say this and ask you if they can come back 22 hours after no fever or illness signs... which would lend them to bringing them at their normal time the next day.

                    Just be firm that the exclusion is for today and tomorrow and no exceptions or you will be redoing this tonight or first thing in the morning.
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                    • momofboys
                      Advanced Daycare Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2560

                      #11
                      Originally posted by meli829
                      She totally was expecting my call, and she will be here in half in hour. The poor kid is just sitting in his high chair looking miserable. I don't believe he didn't have a fever this morning because the meds should technically still be working as she gave them to him at 7 this morning and it is now 9:30.
                      I would be sure to tell her he can not come back tomorrow, no exceptions! I guess I am puzzled as to why the parents do this when they only got to work a couple of hours at work. Was it really worth it? Ughhh I feel for you!

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                      • Crystal
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4002

                        #12
                        ITA with Nannyde. Personally, I would tell her not to come back at all. She knowingly put your family and any other children in care at risk. She LIED to you, what's she going to lie about next time the child is sick? This is one of the few times I would terminate.

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #13
                          Originally posted by janarae
                          I would be sure to tell her he can not come back tomorrow, no exceptions! I guess I am puzzled as to why the parents do this when they only got to work a couple of hours at work. Was it really worth it? Ughhh I feel for you!
                          It's all odds.

                          If they medicate them before day care then they have a really good shot to make it until nap time especially if it is Advil. If they have to pick up at nap time at least they get to go home and put the kid to bed so it's nearly the same as a regular day. Many times the meds don't wear off until after nap has started when the child is sleeping so it's not discovered until after nap. This buys them the full day but not the next day.

                          If they keep them home they have NO chance of not having a sick kid to care for and they still pay for day care. If they bring them to day care on meds they have a good chance. If they keep them home they have no chance.

                          A lot of the decision whether or not to try bringing them to day care has to do with the level of inconvenience the parent will have. If the kid is vomiting very close to the time when they take off in the morning they will normally keep them home because they don't want the kid puking in the car seat on the way over. They can't hide the puke when they get to the day care house and they have to clean up a nasty mess in the car.

                          If they can cover up the illness with just a simple dose of Advil the pay off is very high. Most parents doing this do it regularly and it WORKS. They have the life experience of thinking their kid is sick... seeing a fever the night before and possibly in the morning... giving the kid the meds in the morning and the day care provider being none the wiser. For every time the kid actually spikes a temp before nap they have had five... six.. seven times of doing it and the provider not knowing.

                          Because it's so successful so much of the time they have an increased hope that today will be yet another day it works. They never really know what day it's not going to work so they go for it each time. The pay off is huge and the success is so frequent that today really isn't any different than the other five/ten times it has worked.
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                          • meli829
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 47

                            #14
                            When she picked him up she said something along the lines of I (dcb name) I have to miss works now no no. Dcb is 1 year old so he probably didn't understand but it was clear that she was frustrated at having to miss work. She beat me to it though and said she will probably keep him home tomorrow and I said Yes he has to stay home until he is fever free for 24 hours without meds. When I handed her the bag with the blowout she said he had diarhhea again?! She's supposed to call me on Friday now, and I'm just hoping she actually calls this time and doesn't try to show up with him drugged up again!

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                            • SimpleMom
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 586

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nannyde
                              They don't want to stay home and take care of a sick kid. Work is easier.
                              They don't want to pay for day care they aren't getting.

                              This is a good example of how it bites you in the butt. She could have stayed home today and had a shot at bringing him tomorrow. Now she's blown today and tomorrow.

                              OP do NOT allow her to bring him tomorrow. You have a REALLY good chance that she will call you tonight or in the morning and tell you that he has been excellent all day... no fever... no diarrhea.. that it ended when she picked him up at ten so she wants to bring him back at ten tomorrow.

                              It's very rare for parents to pick kids up early in the morning on day one and not want them back in care on day two. About 99 percent of the time they say that the kid was not sick at all in their care after they left your house. They call and say they are eating GREAT.. had a huge lunch and supper and are up running around the house.. perfectly fine.

                              These are the "words" they say to buy day care the next day after an early exclusion. If you exclude at nap time or after nap time you normally don't have it. If you exclude in the morning you have a REALLY good chance that they are going to say this and ask you if they can come back 22 hours after no fever or illness signs... which would lend them to bringing them at their normal time the next day.

                              Just be firm that the exclusion is for today and tomorrow and no exceptions or you will be redoing this tonight or first thing in the morning.
                              NOT to rock the boat--- I know the above can be true, but I just wanted to add that most parents don't like having to work away from their kids let alone when they area ill. It may be they are in danger of losing their job if they stay home. I've been on that end of it and it stinks. I felt stuck no matter which way i went and wanted nothing more than to stay home with my child. jmho

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