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You're welcome- I know I used others to help put this together, I can't take credit for it, but it has been a great help. I did have 1 family leave during their 2 week time because they wanted to send their non-verbal, very socially-young 21 month old in underwear- I said good riddance!
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That would have been their LAST day at my house.ooohhh the parents of the almost 3 yo sound JUST like a family I dealt with a few years ago. They announced about a week before her 2nd birthday that they were going to potty train her "the day she turned 2" and would be coming in underwear starting then.
Um, no.
Among other things, the child displayed ZERO readiness signs. Zip, zilch, nada. I put my foot down on the underwear so they did pull ups instead
For a year and a half we fought, I mean dealt with, this. I didn't push her here but I offered, in my own style of laissez-faire potty training. There came a point where the mere mention of a potty trip would send her into hysterics. I found out as the 18 months wore on that she would get time outs for having "accidents" and would have to sit on the potty for 30 minutes or more until she peed. Then repeat 30 minutes later
I backed off COMPLETELY aside from asking her at transition times if she needed to go. She regressed in other ways in the same time frame and I felt (still feel) horrible about the way she was being treated at home. Still had ZERO readiness signs.
The parents were LIVID. They posted on facebook about how daycare was sabotaging her training and how she was perfect at home, etc etc and their friends commiserated with them and told them to talk to daycare and "educate" the babysitter (GAG) and I passive-aggressively posted lots of links to potty training tips :
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Finally, one day when she was just shy of 3.5 she announced that she had to pee, and she went to the bathroom and sat and peed and managed her own clothing with minimal help too.
And within a week I told her parents that she was doing fabulous and was ready for underwear. She never looked back.
All that to say....you're right, they're misinformed, keep it up. You're doing the right thing.Comment
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Here's a couple things I have about potty training. One, from my Welcome Packet:
Potty Training
• Potty training is an important step in development in a toddler’s life. I will get the children accustomed to being around the potty area as they approach 24 months – let them flush toilet paper down the toilet, change their diaper while they’re standing up, let them sit on the toilet or potty chair – before they actively start potty training.
• Once the child starts peeing in the potty, then we can start actively potty training. I use stickers and praise as rewards for going potty. Sometimes it is helpful to encourage a child by letting them wear pull-ups while potty training, because it further separates them from the old diaper habit. Just make sure the pull-ups have Velcro sides in order to make changing them easier.
• As they make further progress, you may want to buy a few pairs of underwear with their favorite characters on them, and tell your child they will get to wear them once they are able to keep their pull-up or diaper dry all day (they will likely need a pull-up/diaper at nap and bed time until they’re around 3 years old).
• Once they are keeping their pull-up or diaper dry during their waking hours, we can transition to underwear. Please bring several pairs of underwear and changes of clothes during this time, and restock them every day as needed if there are accidents.
• Continue to keep a supply of pull-ups or diapers here for nap time
And this is from my Policy Handbook:
Learning to Use the Toilet
I will take steps to slowly introduce children to the process of potty training all throughout the school year.
I will take a more active role in helping a child learn to use the toilet once you and I agree that the child is physically ready.
I will use the following methods to help your child learn to use the toilet:
• giving the child incentives (stickers, stamps, etc.)
• bringing the child to the toilet often
• helping the child get excited about using the toilet
• reading books about learning to use the toilet
I will use the following terms:
• urine will be called: pee, pee-pee
• urinating will be called: going potty, using the restroom, going to the bathroom
• a bowel movement will be called: poo-poo, poop
You will supply me with extra clothing and training pants while I am helping your child to use the toilet.
I will provide a "potty chair" while I am helping your child to use the toilet. It may be used as a stand-alone potty chair on the floor, or a seat that fits on top of the regular toilet seat.Comment
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I am a little lost as to why placing this child on the potty every hour is a problem? Do you work with a large group by yourself or is your bathroom upstairs? I only ask because we have two in our group that are potty training and we place them on the potty every 20-30 mins. One is age 2.5 and the other is not even 2 yet and both are doing great. Neither one really verbalizes when they need to go. We just watch for signs and sometimes watch the clock. They have been doing this for over 2 weeks now and they are both in underwear with rarely an accident. It does take ALOT of time and patience having to constantly do this but its a method that has worked for us. Just a thought.Comment
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I do not feel this is an effective way to potty train a child. How is placing a child on the potty 15-20x a day (every 30 min for a 10 hour day excluding nap...) going to potty train a child? This does not teach a child bladder control OR to verbalize the need to go. I place all children that are of the age/show readiness for potty training on the potty during transition times (after snacks, after lunch, before/after naps, etc.) and if they go - they go, if not, they don't and we go on about our day. It has nothing to do with my group size or ability to place a child on the potty every 20-30 minutes.Comment
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Bringing a child to the bathroom at certain intervals is not effective for training IME.
Like you said, it takes ALOT of time and patience but honestly, those kids aren't trained...YOU are.
They have only been accident free because you are bringing them to the toilet every 20-30 minutes. Of course, they are at some point going with that much time on the toilet.
I could do the same thing with my 12 month old and at some point she'd probably go too... and if I was doing it every 20-30 minutes ...she wouldn't have an opportunity to have an accident...kwim?
But, with that said, if it works in your environment...great! I am NOT saying its wrong.
I've just spent way too many years doing child care that I don't agree that taking a child at certain intervals through out the day is effective.
IME, it takes a child LONGER to be trained when implementing that process.Comment
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dcm asked how dcb did today with the potty watch and I told her that it was no different than any other day - however, he showed signs of distress today when other days he did not. He covered the watch so I could not hear it a couple times, he was distressed when he didn't want to go and it was "time" and when he did have an accident, he looked very guilty. I told her that if they're trying to train quickly before pre-k in the fall it may backfire and she just kinda blank stared me and then admitted that they have an interview at a preschool next week. -shrugs- just as I expected...
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Everyone might not agree with our method but we have successfully potty trained 5 dck's within that two weeks and they are doing great. The other two are on the tail end of their two weeks.happyfaceComment
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That is the difference.
YOU are willing to do the work that I feel a parent should be doing.
One of my biggest operating principals is to not take over things I view a parental responsibility. The parenting philosophies of each family I enroll matters to me and has a deep impact on my over all program.
That's what works best for me.
I am not willing to devote the time it takes to bring a child to the bathroom every 20-30 minutes.
You yourself, said it is alot of work and requires a lot from you.
If you are willing to do all that, there isn't anything wrong with that.
You also said "we" and "our". I am assuming you have other staff available too?
If so, then your environment and abilities as far as what things you can and can't do vary greatly compared to those of us who work alone.
We all do what works best for us.
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I'm glad it works for you guys...
However, this little boy is making me feel so sad for him today. The little boy who used to enjoy and willingly sit on the potty during transition times is now resistant, showing signs of distress during potty breaks, and gets very upset when I notice that he had an "accident".
What a big change in the last 2 days that his parents decided he's going to need to use a potty watch and sit on the potty every 30-60 min.
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Well apparently the dcp's weren't thrilled with my policy enforcement on the potty training issue because they gave notice that his last day will be July 31st. ::
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So now this little guy will have to adjust to a new daycare AND then make the switch to Head Start too?
Poor little guy.
His potty training isn't going to improve. I think you are lucky that you are not going to be having him stay...I can already see the potty training issues being the start to bigger issues. I had one just like that. The parents were insistent the child train and he was not ready.
Now they have an anxiety ridden, stressed 4 yr old who is still in Pull ups....with NO signs of wanting to use the toilet anymore.
Sorry you are losing a family though. :hug:Comment
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So now this little guy will have to adjust to a new daycare AND then make the switch to Head Start too?
Poor little guy.
His potty training isn't going to improve. I think you are lucky that you are not going to be having him stay...I can already see the potty training issues being the start to bigger issues. I had one just like that. The parents were insistent the child train and he was not ready.
Now they have an anxiety ridden, stressed 4 yr old who is still in Pull ups....with NO signs of wanting to use the toilet anymore.
Sorry you are losing a family though. :hug:
Thank you. And I Agree - I think this is going to cause more issues, but nothing I can do about it. I'll miss the kid - I've had him since may 2013. But I've got a nice waiting list with many more inquiries so I'm not concerned about filling his spot...Comment
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This is to Blackcat:That is the difference.
YOU are willing to do the work that I feel a parent should be doing.
One of my biggest operating principals is to not take over things I view a parental responsibility. The parenting philosophies of each family I enroll matters to me and has a deep impact on my over all program.
That's what works best for me.
I am not willing to devote the time it takes to bring a child to the bathroom every 20-30 minutes.
You yourself, said it is alot of work and requires a lot from you.
If you are willing to do all that, there isn't anything wrong with that.
You also said "we" and "our". I am assuming you have other staff available too?
If so, then your environment and abilities as far as what things you can and can't do vary greatly compared to those of us who work alone.
We all do what works best for us.
Its just myself and my Mother that run this daycare and we both contribute to the potty training. But thank you for all your input.Comment
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