Does Anyone Else Work In a Center?

[mskaykay]

That's ridiculous that they only pay you $23k for a center that large and with that many staff!! Are you full time? If so they are soaking up the profits at your loss!

Yes I am full time. I have been at the center for 10 years and took the directors position the day I came back from maternity leave because the previous director had an accident. I was too emotional being back at work and too stressed with a new baby and new job that I let them take advantage of me and they didn't raise my salary until I had been doing the job for almost 5 months and I finally spoke up for myself. Even then they only raised it slightly, saying I needed more experience before a bigger raise. Boy, I learned my lesson.

[TaylorTots]

I say in the next 10-20 years trolls will find something better to do.

At least I hope that's a troll with the wildly unfounded accusations designed to upset members of the forum....

[Retired]

I say in the next 10-20 years trolls will find something better to do.

At least I hope that's a troll with the wildly unfounded accusations designed to upset members of the forum....

Why are you calling me a troll? I don't mean to upset anyone, but universal preschool is coming (has came already in some places). Have you never heard of it before? Maybe if you don't live on the coasts, it might be a new concept to you.

[TaylorTots]

Why are you calling me a troll? I don't mean to upset anyone, but universal preschool is coming (has came already in some places). Have you never heard of it before? Maybe if you don't live on the coasts, it might be a new concept to you.

I am a former pre-k teacher as well as a former Early Head Start teacher. I know what universal preschool is.

Making statements that it will go younger and younger are financially incorrect. Our government is barely able to fund the 4 year old preschool program in many states. Obama's recent proposal was overwhelmingly supported to implement further free pre-k programs. And indeed, the government has offered free ECE programs to younger than 4 that are based on low-income only. Those programs, like Head Start, have had budgets slashed time and time again. Unless our government is planning on going many many millions more into debt, a universal preschool under 4 years of age is very unlikely to happen anytime in the future. In fact, the American people have shown overwhelming support for decreasing budgets to pay off our large national debt. This means programs like Head Start or the universal preschool are likely to have funding cut drastically, likely to the point of closure. Either way, you are looking at a future of barely staying afloat of where we are in terms of free pre-k education and younger, barely managing to keep our current funding for those programs, turning to local taxes (which means that the low income areas will not be able to sustain the ECE programs themselves without state/national funding), or the U.S. discarding the overwhelming majority opinion to reduce national debt instead of accruing more.

Unless I am missing something big from every article I've read in the past 4-5 years on the topic, there is no funding source except further debt to make under Kinder programs free.

Sorry I called you a troll if you weren't trying to make an outlandish statement - the comments regarding babies entering "school" sounded trollish to me. Even our Early Head Start programs which are few and far between compared to any other under Kinder program available wouldn't be considered school as much as low income intervention to make sure parents are getting the resources to raise their children as well as the children are receiving proper medical care.

Sorry for the thread hijack

[Annalee]

Why are you calling me a troll? I don't mean to upset anyone, but universal preschool is coming (has came already in some places). Have you never heard of it before? Maybe if you don't live on the coasts, it might be a new concept to you.

Troll or not, I don't know, BUT I have heard of universal pre-k and it is coming but it is standing still here due to government issues.....we can't house them...it is only income eligible and even that has met some slow-down...I can see more of a collaboration coming now with home daycare and school systems....that is in the works right now, I think, due to funding issues. I have a dvd in hand of the beginnings of that, but even that will take some time....I have six 4 yr olds right now that chose NOT to attend pre-k and will not attend school till Aug 2015....so pre-k is not as big an issue to me right now.....QRIS and licensing regs are my thorn in the side!!!!

[Retired]

I am a former pre-k teacher as well as a former Early Head Start teacher. I know what universal preschool is.

Making statements that it will go younger and younger are financially incorrect. Our government is barely able to fund the 4 year old preschool program in many states. Obama's recent proposal was overwhelmingly supported to implement further free pre-k programs. And indeed, the government has offered free ECE programs to younger than 4 that are based on low-income only. Those programs, like Head Start, have had budgets slashed time and time again. Unless our government is planning on going many many millions more into debt, a universal preschool under 4 years of age is very unlikely to happen anytime in the future. In fact, the American people have shown overwhelming support for decreasing budgets to pay off our large national debt. This means programs like Head Start or the universal preschool are likely to have funding cut drastically, likely to the point of closure. Either way, you are looking at a future of barely staying afloat of where we are in terms of free pre-k education and younger, barely managing to keep our current funding for those programs, turning to local taxes (which means that the low income areas will not be able to sustain the ECE programs themselves without state/national funding), or the U.S. discarding the overwhelming majority opinion to reduce national debt instead of accruing more.

Unless I am missing something big from every article I've read in the past 4-5 years on the topic, there is no funding source except further debt to make under Kinder programs free.

Sorry I called you a troll if you weren't trying to make an outlandish statement - the comments regarding babies entering "school" sounded trollish to me. Even our Early Head Start programs which are few and far between compared to any other under Kinder program available wouldn't be considered school as much as low income intervention to make sure parents are getting the resources to raise their children as well as the children are receiving proper medical care.

Sorry for the thread hijack

I only called it school, because that's what my NJ calls it. School, school programs, board of education are the wording they use when referring to universal preschool. You don't know what is down the pipeline. I'm an older woman. I've seen so many changes in my life time. If you told me of these changes decades before they happened, I wouldn't believe them. If you asked me in the 80s, would there be full day kindergarten in NJ, I'd spout the same thing you are about budgets. Things ebb and flow. Yes, we are in A LOT of debt but not more than other countries. If we do get times when there is surplus, universal prek will happen. As much as I hate to say it, most parents can't be bothered to pay for childcare. They think it should be "free". (Free, but from tax money...)

Also, a lot of homes/property/and land has foreclosed and gone back to the banks. I'm just saying if the government really wanted universal prek across the US, I don't see why it couldn't happen in 20 years. 20 years is a long time.

[Annalee]

I only called it school, because that's what my NJ calls it. School, school programs, board of education are the wording they use when referring to universal preschool. You don't know what is down the pipeline. I'm an older woman. I've seen so many changes in my life time. If you told me of these changes decades before they happened, I wouldn't believe them. If you asked me in the 80s, would there be full day kindergarten in NJ, I'd spout the same thing you are about budgets. Things ebb and flow. Yes, we are in A LOT of debt but not more than other countries. If we do get times when there is surplus, universal prek will happen. As much as I hate to say it, most parents can't be bothered to pay for childcare. They think it should be "free". (Free, but from tax money...)

Also, a lot of homes/property/and land has foreclosed and gone back to the banks. I'm just saying if the government really wanted universal prek across the US, I don't see why it couldn't happen in 20 years. 20 years is a long time.

Well, I am fairly old, too....Kindergarten was not mandatory for me! Pre-k here is only for 4 yr old income eligible kids....if the class does not fill up they can take any child, but pre-k classrooms still are NOT filling up...that ought to tell you that I know a little bout what I am talking about, too!!!!! You are right in that changes are coming...and home daycares probably are trying to be weeded out, BUT I AM STILL HERE AND I WILL FIGHT TILL THE END! AS LONG AS CLIENTS WANT MY SERVICES, I WILL BE HERE! As you can see I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO, I AM NOT A BABYSITTER AND DO NOT SIT IN THE CLOSET. I AM VERY INVOLVED ON STATE, LOCAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS! I have been around a long time, too!!!! I think you are, in fact, a troll so I am signing off!

[Retired]

Well, I am fairly old, too....Kindergarten was not mandatory for me! Pre-k here is only for 4 yr old income eligible kids....if the class does not fill up they can take any child, but pre-k classrooms still are NOT filling up...that ought to tell you that I know a little bout what I am talking about, too!!!!! You are right in that changes are coming...and home daycares probably are trying to be weeded out, BUT I AM STILL HERE AND I WILL FIGHT TILL THE END! AS LONG AS CLIENTS WANT MY SERVICES, I WILL BE HERE! As you can see I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO, I AM NOT A BABYSITTER AND DO NOT SIT IN THE CLOSET. I AM VERY INVOLVED ON STATE, LOCAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS! I have been around a long time, too!!!! I think you are, in fact, a troll so I am signing off!

Thank you for the immature response.

I never said to anyone to close their daycares. I'm just talking about what my daughter has experienced. I think it's stupid to encourage newcomers, young people, to think this is a life long profession. Maybe it was if you started already. It's not if you're starting in 2014. Just as there is a thread on THE FRONT PAGE about not depending on daycare income. I'm the troll lady making this all up. Ok, bye everyone. Live in lalaland that never changes ever.