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  • TwinKristi
    Family Childcare Provider
    • Aug 2013
    • 2390

    #46
    I think there's a few problems with the sleep issues we have with infants.

    A) Deaths labeled at SIDS when it's not, like health issues, poor sleeping choices or unsafe sleep practices.
    B) Inconsistent info on this subject, DCPs say one thing, Grandma says another, Pediatrician say another, friend (IRL and online) all have their own two cents...
    C) Babies having different dispositions and needs for sleeping, some do fine in a crib from day 1, some don't. Parents start to do what they have to do to get baby to sleep, including swings and carseats and such.
    D) Aftermarket baby products designed for sleep. Crib bumpers have been scrutinized for years now yet I still see a LOT of parents using them thinking it's protecting their child from hitting their head on the crib. The Nap Nanny deal that's now contributed to the death of 6 (or more?) babies, very much designed for sleeping babies. All the new baby gear that appears to be designed for babies to sleep in... Papasian chair, Rock N Play Sleeper (which IS designed & marketed for sleeping) and such.

    I will admit I have personally had my OWN infants sleep in swings, Rock N Play sleeper, carseats, etc. I had never heard of positional asphyxia until recently. I mean, common sense tells you these things can happen, but when driving long distances a sleeping baby is a good thing. When your baby won't sleep anywhere but your arms and the swing, the swing seems like a life saver. The RNP Sleeper was brand new when I had my youngest and it was honestly the only way he would sleep more than a few mins out of my arms.
    I also have a friend who's baby was just released from the NICU for apnea spells and now has a monitor on him and has to take caffeine to stimulate his brain to breathe and sleep properly. He was born a couple weeks early but is otherwise healthy. She posts pics of him in his little Papasian chair with his monitors and such. This is her 6th child and I know first hand how hard is it to have a baby who needs to sleep and 5 other kids who need you too.

    Luckily the babies I had who went to daycare all slept in cribs and on their own well. The last 2 haven't and it's fine because they've been home with me. But parents who KNOW their child has to attend daycare need to sleep train (and bottle train, etc.) their child and have them ready for group care where they can't be held and put to sleep in a swing. I'm planning on revising my contract and creating a handbook for parents and including info on safe sleep practices and that I only put a child to sleep in a crib with their own sheet, a sleep sack if they're younger, only a blanket if they're older, binkies only if necessary, no stuffies, no attached binkies, etc.

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    • drseuss
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 271

      #47
      Originally posted by Heidi
      For me, it's a gradual process. At 6 weeks (the earliest I take them), I sleep them here in the main room with me. Once they seem to be bothered by noise, usually at 3 months or so, I move them to a room nearby and check on them frequently. By 7 or 8 months, they are in further rooms, and I don't really do a lot of checks; just listen at the door occasionally.

      I keep them in pnp's as long as I can, and once they are on mats, they're back right near me again.
      That's the thing with infants, they can only handle the noise and activity while they are newborn and then it disturbs them. To me, having a quiet, separate area of one's own to sleep in is one of the main perks of family care vs. center care.

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      • Annalee
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 5864

        #48
        Originally posted by drseuss
        That's the thing with infants, they can only handle the noise and activity while they are newborn and then it disturbs them. To me, having a quiet, separate area of one's own to sleep in is one of the main perks of family care vs. center care.
        I run a fan or sound machine by the pnp. The pnp is in the corner of my large room and I set up my quiet materials on this side of the room. It seems to work!

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        • Childminder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1500

          #49
          Did everyone read about fans and the reduction of SIDS related incidents?

          "Investigators concluded that sleeping with a fan lowers SIDS risk by more than 70%."

          [URL="http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20081006/sleeping-with-fan-may-lower-sids-risk"[/URL]

          Has to do with babies not being able to push the carbon dioxide away because their breathing isn't strong enough and they rebreathe expelled air.

          I do know of a death when the baby co-slept between both parents and they determined the child wasn't able to breathe in oxygen because all he was able to get was their combined carbon dioxide.
          I see little people.

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          • drseuss
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 271

            #50
            Originally posted by Childminder
            Did everyone read about fans and the reduction of SIDS related incidents?

            "Investigators concluded that sleeping with a fan lowers SIDS risk by more than 70%."

            [URL="http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20081006/sleeping-with-fan-may-lower-sids-risk"[/URL]

            Has to do with babies not being able to push the carbon dioxide away because their breathing isn't strong enough and they rebreathe expelled air.

            I do know of a death when the baby co-slept between both parents and they determined the child wasn't able to breathe in oxygen because all he was able to get was their combined carbon dioxide.
            Yes. I always leave a ceiling fan on in each room, and if there's no ceiling fan then a portable fan. Sometimes both. And just to be safe I leave our furnace fan running at all times.

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            • drseuss
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 271

              #51
              Such a small, easy thing to do and according to the stats, very important.

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              • SignMeUp
                Family ChildCare Provider
                • Jan 2014
                • 1325

                #52
                Originally posted by Childminder
                Did everyone read about fans and the reduction of SIDS related incidents?
                I know that they include using a fan in our SUID training. Don't think I heard 70% though.

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                • Angelsj
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1323

                  #53
                  Originally posted by drseuss
                  A related question for Nan or anyone else who might like to answer. When do you lay off the constant sleep supervison? Do you do it according to the peak ages for SIDS risk, or do you have a different timetable? Just wondering because I've got two 10-month old infants here.
                  I check ALL children at least every 30 mins. Most are in my line of sight anyway, so no issues. I do have one that sleeps lightly so he is behind a closed door with a camera monitor. Not sure if that counts as eyesight, but I physically open the door and check on him every 30 mins at the longest. (He is 3 years old)

                  Infants every 5 mins until they are at least a year old.

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                  • Annalee
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 5864

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Childminder
                    Did everyone read about fans and the reduction of SIDS related incidents?

                    "Investigators concluded that sleeping with a fan lowers SIDS risk by more than 70%."

                    [URL="http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20081006/sleeping-with-fan-may-lower-sids-risk"[/URL]

                    Has to do with babies not being able to push the carbon dioxide away because their breathing isn't strong enough and they rebreathe expelled air.

                    I do know of a death when the baby co-slept between both parents and they determined the child wasn't able to breathe in oxygen because all he was able to get was their combined carbon dioxide.
                    yes, a fan helps with SIDS along with being a noise blocker while the infant sleeps!

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                    • Angelsj
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1323

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Annalee
                      I run a fan or sound machine by the pnp. The pnp is in the corner of my large room and I set up my quiet materials on this side of the room. It seems to work!
                      Agreed. My almost 9 month old sleeps in the middle of the kitchen floor (in a pnp before anyone thinks I have a baby sleeping on the kitchen floor :: ) with a fan for white noise, for both of her naps, and does quite well.

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                      • Annalee
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5864

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Angelsj
                        I check ALL children at least every 30 mins. Most are in my line of sight anyway, so no issues. I do have one that sleeps lightly so he is behind a closed door with a camera monitor. Not sure if that counts as eyesight, but I physically open the door and check on him every 30 mins at the longest. (He is 3 years old)

                        Infants every 5 mins until they are at least a year old.
                        Centers here have to check every 15 minutes but homes are every 30 minutes for licensing! I am a home but I went through the infant/toddler caregiver credential pilot program and they got me in the habit of checking quarterly as well!

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                        • KiddieCahoots
                          FCC Educator
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1349

                          #57
                          Originally posted by MaryF
                          Could I please see your permission form? This thread convinced me to buy the Snuza for my daycare as well.
                          I'm technology illiterate, so this is typed from the original

                          Dear Parent,
                          Early Education and Care has strict policies for keeping infants safe during sleep.
                          Per policy [606 CMR 7.11(13c) Department of Early Education and Care, Health and Safety, Sleep, Rest and Quiet Activity]; Restraints may not be used on sleeping children under any circumstances. & [606 CMR 7.11 (13e-5)]; ensure that cribs, port-a-cribs, playpens or bassinets used for sleeping infants younger than 12 months of age do not contain pillows, comforters, stuffed animals or other soft, padded materials.
                          In addition to EEC infant safe sleeping standards, xxxxxx child care has acquired the latest devices to help keep infants safe during sleep and help reduce the risk of SIDS.
                          Snuza Hero Movement Monitor Devices easily clip onto diapers and are able to monitor your baby's slightest movements, and sound an alert if all movement stops, providing extra security for your baby. No cords, wires, or sensor pads are required.
                          If you would like to have the use of Snuza Hero Movement Monitor Device for your infant while at xxxxxx child care, please sign and date the parental consent.

                          I_____________________________request that the Snuza Hero Movement Monitor Device be applied/clipped to my infant________________________
                          diaper during naps at xxxxxx child care.
                          ________________________________
                          date

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