When No One Comes For The Kid...

[Blackcat31]

If dad works nights, why is he still sleeping at 5 PM?

What time does he go to sleep/get off work?

My DS gets off work at 7:00 A.M. and heads home to sleep.
He gets up anytime BEFORE 3:00.

Sometimes he even goes back to work by 3:00.

If DCD is sleeping well past 5:00, he needs to go to bed sooner.

Wouldn't be a big deal if he didn't have children!!

Good for you for standing your ground too! Curious as to what DCM says about this. Has she contacted you at all?

[nannyde]

You can't have a child in your daycare who doesn't have parents available to make decisions and provide emergency care. The fact that they are unavailable for any reason is enough to term. It's not safe to have that child under your roof because he/she doesn't have an available parent.

It's really that simple. In this day and age there is absolutely no reason to not have a parent available in seconds. When they don't answer it's because they don't want to. The Dad is pushing the pick up time because he is trying to get it closer to when mom gets home. He doesn't want to take care of his kid. He wants someone else to do it.

[debbiedoeszip]

These parents are ridiculously flaky and I think that I'd be terming now and not giving any more chances. The lateness is just crazy and the fact that no one is reachable by phone would send my anxiety level up to the stratosphere. I wouldn't be able to have this family as a client. No way; too stressful.

[Play Care]

I would have called CPS. I don't wait until I am closed to call. I wait until 1hr after contracted hours. If he was supposed to be gone at 5, nobody was answering, cps would have been called at 6.

Just wondering if CPS does anything? Is it considered abandonment? I had thought they wouldn't do anything because technically the parent has arrangements for the child to be in your care? I would like to add this to my policies but want to make sure I'm not wasting my/CPS time.

[daycarediva]

They do. They attempt to contact parents, and if they can't, they have a social worker come pick them up. They have arranged care until 5pm, not 6pm. After a reasonable time frame, and failing to contact the provider, it IS considered abandonment. I have a dcm who is a social worker and she is the one I consulted about this policy. I have never had to use it, but it's come close before.

[Blackcat31]

They do. They attempt to contact parents, and if they can't, they have a social worker come pick them up. They have arranged care until 5pm, not 6pm. After a reasonable time frame, and failing to contact the provider, it IS considered abandonment. I have a dcm who is a social worker and she is the one I consulted about this policy. I have never had to use it, but it's come close before.

I was also told that since I submitted 7:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. as business hours that I am technically NOT allowed to have the child outside that time frame.

I had a parent not show up for the same reasons. My licensor said I HAD to call CPS if I couldn't reach an emergency contact.

A child MUST have AVAILABLE emergency contacts listed on their forms and if I exhaust those, CPS is the next call.

[ihop]

Mom text to say she Just checked her phone and had he showed. I said yes, she said I am so sorry, I didn't reply. Dcd didn't take his oops card so who know if they'll show up or not since mom drops off. Dad probably won't even tell her she isn't allowed back. Dcd works 9-9.

I will be having a serious talk with mom about how she'll feel when cps shows up with her daughter and her husband is asleep with three kids home. She used to be on a schedule that allowed her to leave at 430 and pick up at 5 but she had to go in Saturday and they didn't have childcare and didn't want to pay for it. Prioritites,

[Play Care]

Mom text to say she Just checked her phone and had he showed. I said yes, she said I am so sorry, I didn't reply. Dcd didn't take his oops card so who know if they'll show up or not since mom drops off. Dad probably won't even tell her she isn't allowed back. Dcd works 9-9.

I will be having a serious talk with mom about how she'll feel when cps shows up with her daughter and her husband is asleep with three kids home. She used to be on a schedule that allowed her to leave at 430 and pick up at 5 but she had to go in Saturday and they didn't have childcare and didn't want to pay for it. Prioritites,

I would have told mom that they are not allowed into care until payment is received. I would (and have) turned clients away at the door, but I try to avoid it if possible as not to upset the kids. Plus I find it easier to be firm over the phone before things get heated.

[ihop]

So I know they will ask why they cant come if they pay if Thursday morning since they will technically not behind in payment. $25/day for Thursday and Friday and the owe me 50. So it would be even if they paid the difference Thursday. I don't see it that way but I know they will. I am refusing care for days they paid for.

[NightOwl]

Are they due in today? Just wondering if they showed?

[Blackcat31]

So I know they will ask why they cant come if they pay if Thursday morning since they will technically not behind in payment. $25/day for Thursday and Friday and the owe me 50. So it would be even if they paid the difference Thursday. I don't see it that way but I know they will. I am refusing care for days they paid for.

You are refusing care due to an unpaid balance. (the late fee)

If they want to say it's for days they paid for, then apply what they already paid you (for scheduled days) to the late fee and then tell them that now they owe for whatever other days they want to come.

[ihop]

They come every day. No show so far but typically they are here 8-830 and its only 740

[TheGoodLife]

Did mom try to drop off today? I hope DCD was truthful- that is so horrible to "forget" your child for so long!! Sleeping is no excuse

[ihop]

No, they didn't drop off. I feel guilty and bad for not letting her come where she likes to be and is safe and happy but I don't know how else to force these parents to be responsible for their child.

[Annalee]

No, they didn't drop off. I feel guilty and bad for not letting her come where she likes to be and is safe and happy but I don't know how else to force these parents to be responsible for their child.

you did the right thing for your business!