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    In The Middle Of Domestic Woes...

    I have been told by one parent to not let the other one take the child today....there are apparentlymarital problems that have been being worked on (therapy I think) that is failing. Aunty or grandparents picking up is ok I'm to call the other parent if this one tries to take kid....they will be here as soon as possible....what do I do.Thanks to all input.
  • CraftyMom
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 2285

    #2
    That's a tough one. If there is no court order you really can't refuse to give the child to a legal guardian (parent). Just because one is mad at the other doesn't mean they can't see their child.

    I wouldn't want to be involved in this

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    • SilverSabre25
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 7585

      #3
      You cannot legally keep a child from a biological parent without a court order of some kind. I would advise the parent of this immediately.
      Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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      • Play Care
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 6642

        #4
        Originally posted by SilverSabre25
        You cannot legally keep a child from a biological parent without a court order of some kind. I would advise the parent of this immediately.
        This. Keeping a child from a parent without a court order could be considered kidnapping. If you are licensed call your licensor just to give her the heads up. But call the parent who told you not to release the child ASAP to let them know you don't have that authority unless you have that court order.

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        • llpa
          Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 460

          #5
          Originally posted by Play Care
          This. Keeping a child from a parent without a court order could be considered kidnapping. If you are licensed call your licensor just to give her the heads up. But call the parent who told you not to release the child ASAP to let them know you don't have that authority unless you have that court order.

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          • KiddieCahoots
            FCC Educator
            • Mar 2014
            • 1349

            #6
            I'd be ready to call the police if both parents arrive and start having issues on your property. Things like this can get hairy.

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            • Heidi
              Daycare.com Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 7121

              #7
              You can, however, call the police and let them deal with it, should it happen.

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              • MarinaVanessa
                Family Childcare Home
                • Jan 2010
                • 7211

                #8
                Originally posted by Heidi
                You can, however, call the police and let them deal with it, should it happen.
                If there is no court order and the other parent takes the child even the police won't do anything. They will ask if there is a court order and if there isn't they'll say there's nothing they can do. A parent can't kidnap their own child if there isn't a court order KWIM

                I would do as others have said and explain to BOTH parents that you are neutral and do not want to get involved. They need to discuss between themselves and come to an agreement and give it to you in writing with both of their signatures. Otherwise tell them that there is nothing you can do.

                A while back a similar situation was brought up and BC posted a letter that she gives to parents that are separated or going through separation. I took it and changed it to fit my needs. Maybe you can do something similar. Maybe BC can also post her original letter?2
                Attached Files

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                • midaycare
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 5658

                  #9
                  Good advice has already been posted - you definitely can not keep a child from a parent without a custody order / legal order stating that. Edited to add - I have that in my handbook - just a section saying that I can not legally keep a child from parent without a court order.

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                  • wdmmom
                    Advanced Daycare.com
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2713

                    #10
                    Tell the dcp that is saying the other can't pick up that you don't have the authority to hold a child from the other and that you aren't getting involved. Tell them to provide you with who is picking up and release the child to whomever comes first. End of story.

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                    • TwinKristi
                      Family Childcare Provider
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 2390

                      #11
                      Yeah, like the others said, what she's asking you to do is illegal. You cannot prevent a parent from taking their child without a court order. I've had two families with protective orders against a parent and I have them on file. One had visitation and I was actually the pickup person which also got ugly because mom lied to dad and said they were going on vacation out of state to avoid him having his visits and he straight up asked me if the kids were there and why they weren't on vacation. The other didn't know where I lived and I never had to deal with him thankfully.

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                      • coolconfidentme
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1541

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TwinKristi
                        Yeah, like the others said, what she's asking you to do is illegal. You cannot prevent a parent from taking their child without a court order. I've had two families with protective orders against a parent and I have them on file. One had visitation and I was actually the pickup person which also got ugly because mom lied to dad and said they were going on vacation out of state to avoid him having his visits and he straight up asked me if the kids were there and why they weren't on vacation. The other didn't know where I lived and I never had to deal with him thankfully.
                        I had a similar situation. I never understood why people think we want to be part of their drama.

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                        • Angelsj
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1323

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                          You cannot legally keep a child from a biological parent without a court order of some kind. I would advise the parent of this immediately.
                          Bingo. I would add, however, that this is not just biological. It works for adopted, step, etc. If the parent is on the paperwork, you must release the child, or call the police to mediate. (as in the case of someone being inebriated)

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                          • Second Home
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 1567

                            #14
                            Not a situation I would want to be involved in . Thankfully I have not had to deal with this ....yet .

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                            • Meeko
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4349

                              #15
                              I make it very clear to my clients that unless they give me a copy of a signed legal order....whichever parent shows up gets the child. I cannot legally keep a child from it's parent.

                              I will not get in the middle of disputes.

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