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    Neglect? WWYD?

    I've signed out for this one to protect myself. Anyway.. I have a daycare mom that I asked if she uses powder or any sort of diaper rash cream on him. She responded with "never." He's ALWAYS got a rash. I can clear it up through out the day, and the next day, he has it again. If it's really bad, it can take all week to clear up, be fine on Friday, and when the kid returns the rash has returned, sometimes worse than before.

    I DO use powder and rash cream on him. I can't leave the rash as is without trying to help it. Well, I've had the child come back each day with remnants of the powder and cream on him, proving that she isn't wiping him or bathing him. I've even had him go like that for 2-3 days without him being here and him return with powder or rash cream remnants.

    The child suffers from a lot of developmental delay. He's a little over 2 and says nothing. His behavior is pretty bad. He throws food on the floor, throws temper tantrums and busts his head on the floor when he does it.

    Mom has no clue what foods he likes (I've asked) and from my understanding from big sister, he eats a lot of fast food and junk food.

    I'm pretty sure that the child is being neglected for the most part. There are days that if I sit with him and teach him things, he'll repeat them and try to do it - kind of showing me that DCM never does any of this stuff with him. He's a smart child but I really think that he missed his "window of opportunity" on a lot of stuff.

    I don't know what to do at this point.. What would you do?
  • NoMoreJuice!
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 715

    #2
    I struggled with this same scenario so badly at one time...two year old dcb that was so far behind, showed up smelling like smoke, and ate nothing but junk. When I asked my surveyor if that was something I was mandated to report, she said that it wasn't technically neglect, it was the right of the parent to make choices like that.

    The diaper rash, however, if it is causing the child discomfort, I would consider neglect. You are not required to report abuse or neglect, only suspicion...and I think this falls under that category. I would call and report, simply because it covers your behind.

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    • jenn
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 695

      #3
      To me, there is a fine line between poor parenting and neglect.

      The junk food/fast food is poor parenting in my opinion, but I don't think it would be considered neglectful as long as he is getting food.

      Are the diaper rashes serious enough to need medical attention? I was told that cleanliness, rashes,...are only considered neglect if they are causing enough issue to need medical treatment. Otherwise, they are considered poor parenting.

      In my state, we are required to report suspected abuse and/or neglect. If you suspect there is neglect, you should report it. Better safe than sorry.

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      • Mom o Col
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 126

        #4
        There is no excuse for any of those things but do you think it may be more ignorance (for lack of a better word) than straight up neglect. Like, maybe she doesn't really know how to care for a child as well as she should. Could you kindly explain to her that he should be wiped, creamed, and powdered at each change and that he should be changed more often. Make up a story about something that happened with your own child as an example and how you dealt with it.

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        • NightOwl
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 2722

          #5
          Report immediately. I once owned a center and had to make such reports but didn't want the parents to know it was me for fear of them pulling their child. So here's how I would handle it: I make the call anonymously; cps showed up at the center to investigate; after they left, I called dcm and said something like, "Omg, cps was just here to see dck! Is everything Ok?? I thought you would want to know that some one reported you for something. I can't imagine why!!" Worked every time. They felt like I was on their side by making that call to inform them and we were able to keep the child in care. Deceptive? Yes. But it served the child and kept dcp from bad mouthing the center and withdrawing their child. Win/win in my opinion.

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          • Unregistered

            #6
            This mom would definitely pull her child from me if CPS investigated. Outside of me, he is with no one else but her or his grandmother. The child doesn't get any sort of interaction otherwise. She'd know it was me immediately.

            I've only had him for a few weeks. The first week, he showed up with white stool. I fed him appropriately, made note of it and by the end of the week, his stool and severe rash were gone. The weekend comes and goes and when he goes back, the white stool has returned and so has the severe rash. It's like I "fix him" and he's "broken" when he comes back.

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            • NightOwl
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 2722

              #7

              Read this. It could be an issue with his liver, which could be an issue with his diet. Do you think he's malnourished?

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              • Mom o Col
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 126

                #8
                Originally posted by Wednesday
                Report immediately. I once owned a center and had to make such reports but didn't want the parents to know it was me for fear of them pulling their child. So here's how I would handle it: I make the call anonymously; cps showed up at the center to investigate; after they left, I called dcm and said something like, "Omg, cps was just here to see dck! Is everything Ok?? I thought you would want to know that some one reported you for something. I can't imagine why!!" Worked every time. They felt like I was on their side by making that call to inform them and we were able to keep the child in care. Deceptive? Yes. But it served the child and kept dcp from bad mouthing the center and withdrawing their child. Win/win in my opinion.
                In spite of my previous reply I also agree with the above if you do report.

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                • Unregistered

                  #9
                  My first thought was malnourishment since I can make things normal when I have him by the end of the week. But I couldn't say for sure. He eats fruit here like crazy. I don't know what kind of foods he is getting at home. I could pick big sisters brain this evening.

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                  • jenboo
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 3180

                    #10
                    if you suspect any form of abuse I would report. I took a child abuse class in collage and they couldnt stress this enough. It so very important to report even if you are arent positive. It covers your butt in case something is happening. If nothing is happening, then nothing is happening.

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                    • NightOwl
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 2722

                      #11
                      And if something IS happening and you fail to report, you could be held liable depending on the laws in your state.

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                      • KidGrind
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1099

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        I've signed out for this one to protect myself. Anyway.. I have a daycare mom that I asked if she uses powder or any sort of diaper rash cream on him. She responded with "never." He's ALWAYS got a rash. I can clear it up through out the day, and the next day, he has it again. If it's really bad, it can take all week to clear up, be fine on Friday, and when the kid returns the rash has returned, sometimes worse than before.

                        I DO use powder and rash cream on him. I can't leave the rash as is without trying to help it. Well, I've had the child come back each day with remnants of the powder and cream on him, proving that she isn't wiping him or bathing him. I've even had him go like that for 2-3 days without him being here and him return with powder or rash cream remnants.

                        The child suffers from a lot of developmental delay. He's a little over 2 and says nothing. His behavior is pretty bad. He throws food on the floor, throws temper tantrums and busts his head on the floor when he does it.

                        Mom has no clue what foods he likes (I've asked) and from my understanding from big sister, he eats a lot of fast food and junk food.

                        I'm pretty sure that the child is being neglected for the most part. There are days that if I sit with him and teach him things, he'll repeat them and try to do it - kind of showing me that DCM never does any of this stuff with him. He's a smart child but I really think that he missed his "window of opportunity" on a lot of stuff.

                        I don't know what to do at this point.. What would you do?
                        If you are a licensed/certified childcare professional you are a mandated reporter. You report the facts only to CPS or whatever you call it in your area.

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                        • KiddieCahoots
                          FCC Educator
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1349

                          #13
                          I would report it.
                          First... to protect yourself.
                          Second.....you don't know if there has been any other reports made in the past that services aren't already aware of and watching.
                          Like if the child was born with any substance addictions/withdrawals.
                          In which case, they would most likely seize the child, for fear of the parent using again.
                          I work with a lot of children in DCF. Because of the many children in need, and not enough state funding, numerous reports can be made before any action is done. The most extreme cases get acknowledged first. Others tend to get warnings, second chances, and referrals to services. Although now that DCF is in the news constantly, and under fire, with recent deaths of children that were in the care of DCF, things may change.

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                          • MrsSteinel'sHouse
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1509

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wednesday
                            And if something IS happening and you fail to report, you could be held liable depending on the laws in your state.
                            Exactly this.

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                            • MrsSteinel'sHouse
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1509

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KidGrind
                              If you are a licensed/certified childcare professional you are a mandated reporter. You report the facts only to CPS or whatever you call it in your area.
                              exactly this

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