Banning Milk In Daycare

[Play Care]

I dont even need a doctors note here. I just need a note from the parent stating their preference for milk.

Same in NYS.

[Annalee]

Yeah, that wouldn't fly here.
I am wondering though if just because they have those drinks on the menu that you must serve them, or they are on there for providers who may think serving Kool-aid is appropriate? KWIM? So if you crossed out a milk for snack and put in say, "hard boiled egg, apple slices and water" that would be creditable because you've met the components. Otherwise if they say on Monday you must serve oatmeal, blueberries and milk so you have to, that seems more like an employee rather than a business owner. I'd have a major issue with that.

I have swapped out fruits, vegetables, etc...I have never tried to substitute anything for milk but I guess I could..never really asked fp or thought about it.

[Laurel]

ITA with this. When I was a kid in the 70s, the food we ate was just as sugar and sodium filled, but kids were very, very active. I also believe that it's a massive amount of inactivity that is leading some children today to become obese. Not so much what they are eating.

When I was a kid, the only times that tv was interesting for kids was at noon (Flintstones/Spiderman), Saturday mornings (cartoons!), and early Sunday evenings (Disney!). The rest of the time it was boring grown up shows. It wasn't until the 80s that some networks started airing a couple of hours of cartoons after school (that I recall).

Video games (in the 70s) were something found only in arcades and you needed money from parents to play them (and good luck getting that money, LOL).

Kids played outside every daytime hour it wasn't pouring rain or blizzarding, and played hard inside when it was crappy out.

That's true BUT also more parents were home to supervise their children. Now more work so they have no choice but to have their children in after school or daycare.

I'm really not sure if all these parents have to work or not. My husband says probably but I wonder. I'm not so sure.

Laurel

[KidGrind]

47 million Americans in 2013 or 20% of the population. I'm not commenting on the connection between food stamps and obesity but I did want to point out that a significant portion of Americans are on food stamps.

There are connections between lower income brackets and poor food choices however especially in the some states where there are large "food drought" areas where little to no fresh product is available at an affordable price. Cheap food is often over processed, high in calories, high in fat and low in nutrients.

I’ve seen obese children in ALL socio-economic brackets. It’s more like between 14% to 15% of the population, by the way.

[My3cents]

Food program is 2% or whole for under 2 years, 1% or skim for over 2 year olds.
I think that's right. I actually think only in terms of cap color::

food program is whole milk under two
and then not whole milk for over two

[debbiedoeszip]

That's true BUT also more parents were home to supervise their children. Now more work so they have no choice but to have their children in after school or daycare.

I'm really not sure if all these parents have to work or not. My husband says probably but I wonder. I'm not so sure.

Laurel

I'm not really sure how this relates to the point I was making.

[mountainside13]

Limiting, banning and/or frowning upon the use of "one" particular food product as the cause of anything is an asinine thought concept.

Stating that the consumption of dairy (milk in particular) is contributing to the obesity epidemic is basically giving people a free pass to once again blame something for their own personal choices.

Like Mister Sir Husband and Debbiedoeszip said.... previous generations ate real sugar and all sorts of unhealthy foods as well as milk with most meals and there was no obesity epidemic.

My family purchased milk from the local dairy farm. I had to shake the bottle each morning to mix the cream in before pouring a glass.

Whether people believe in drinking milk or not also has no weight in this as each person should have that personal choice.

Pointing the finger at ONE product as the source of obesity is like saying being in daycare is the source of ALL childhood behavior issues.

[Meyou]

I’ve seen obese children in ALL socio-economic brackets. It’s more like between 14% to 15% of the population, by the way.

Of course there are children that are obese in all brackets. I never said there weren't. The website I looked at said 20%. I'm pretty sure that point I made is still valid at 14%. That is a significant percentage of the population regardless of it's impact on the current discussion.

[Thegrayghost1966]

From what I've read, they now say whole milk is better. More omega 3's especially in organic. It also keeps you full longer and you need the fat to absorb the fat soluble vitamins. Therefore, it doesn't cause obesity.

Here is one article I have read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristi...b_4421306.html

Everything in moderation. They used to say butter was bad and eat margarine. Now steer clear of margarine.

[drseuss]

Yes! And the fat content in the whole milk is apparently what keeps blood sugar levels from spiking, causing pre-diabetic states in some people. Sometimes I sneak whole milk to my daycare kids instead of the 1 % that I am supposed to give them.

[Play Care]

Yes! And the fat content in the whole milk is apparently what keeps blood sugar levels from spiking, causing pre-diabetic states in some people. Sometimes I sneak whole milk to my daycare kids instead of the 1 % that I am supposed to give them.

I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.

[drseuss]

I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.

This is me, too. My husband and boys drink whole, I drink almond. They feel like they're missing something if they stick to almond milk, so I just buy whole for them. I really wish that I could be giving the daycare kids whole, too, but the food program here says skim or 1.

[Laurel]

I'm not really sure how this relates to the point I was making.

Oh I guess it did sound weird, sorry.

What I was getting at is that it seemed easier back in the 70's (when my children were young) to keep children active. It seems like fewer moms were working outside the home so mom would send them outside or take them to the park or whatever. It seems like with both parents working, less parent to child time, more electronic gadgets to distract, etc. not to mention no internet back then (at least that I remember) to constantly tell parents that they were weren't keeping up with the current parenting trends that it just seems harder for this generation of parents.

I'm not sure if this fits with your point or not but that was what I was thinking about when I wrote it. Hope this clears things up.

Laurel

[Laurel]

I actually started having a cup of whole milk with dinner a while back. I was finding I would eat and be starving in an hour. The whole milk keeps me feeling full.
I believe that the only milk we should be drinking (*if*we drink it at all) is whole milk.

Wow, I have that problem at lunch. I just can't seem to get filled up. I am going to try that.

Laurel

[Cradle2crayons]

I only serve whole milk. Period. But they only get it for breakfast here. Then they get water.

And flame me now, sometimes I make home made lemonade... Sometimes I even give them sweet tea... And gasp even Kool aid very occasionally.

Everything in moderation. But I only do while milk. My kids get calcium in other ways.