What The Heck?

[Unregistered]

What is the "Buh-bye Outside" program?

So why are you continuing to keep them in care then?

I would NEVER entertain that kind of drama in MY house.

I would be implementing the "Buh-bye Outside" program and not allowing this drama-fest to take place inside my walls.

DCM's monster = DCM's issue.

Either the "Buh-bye Outside" program or be termed from MY program.

^^^ Those would be MY choices.

I've read a bunch here, but have only seen references to this. I know it is something that "Nannyde" advocates, but I would like to see the specifics. Can you point me to it?

[Sugar Magnolia]

Opinion here, hut mom does this to keep up appearances. Sicky sweet in front of others, whap once they are in the privacy of home.

[Blackcat31]

I've read a bunch here, but have only seen references to this. I know it is something that "Nannyde" advocates, but I would like to see the specifics. Can you point me to it?

Here you go... https://www.daycare.com/nannyde/the-...in-daycare.htm

Her blog is FULL of useful info for BOTH providers and parents.

[Lucy]

Thank you. Yes, that was what I am saying.

I don't always suggest terming and I certainly didn't imply that the OP doesn't care about the child as clearly she does...

My point was why are you (OP) entertaining something you are so frustrated with?

Venting is a great outlet and something we all need to do but at the end of it all we are still left with only two options: Fix it or just deal with it.

She's "dealing with it" by venting to us about it. I thought that was one of the things we were here for?? I see lots of parental behaviors that ****, but I just roll my eyes and move on. If it bugs the heck out of me, but it's not something I want to invest time and emotion into having a heart-to-heart with the parent and trying to change it, then I vent here. It really does help.

[Unregistered]

Thanks

Thanks, Blackcat.
We can't actually do that here. We are required to have eyes on every single child at every single second. So parents basically have to come in to the entryway, undress or supervise the undressing (cold weather gear) and bring the child in. Plus we are required to have parents sign in and out, and clocks won't work in the unheated entry.

[Jack Sprat]

I have the same child here. Maybe not to that extreme but, he is a freaking tyrant when his mother arrives. She always texts to let me know she is on her way. So I have dcb ready to go. If he starts misbehaving when she arrives I will discipline him once. After that I tell them goodbye, lock the screen door or front door depending if we are on the porch or outside and leave the situation. Once the parents are here I am done.

This morning he hit his mother on the face she didn't get mad just said "ohh that hurt me" I took him by the hand and put him in time out. I looked at mom and told her to have a nice day at work, and walked her to the front door. I could honestly care less if she gets offended or doesn't like it. I will not have a child acting like this at my daycare.

[Blackcat31]

Thanks, Blackcat.
We can't actually do that here. We are required to have eyes on every single child at every single second. So parents basically have to come in to the entryway, undress or supervise the undressing (cold weather gear) and bring the child in. Plus we are required to have parents sign in and out, and clocks won't work in the unheated entry.

What kind of relationship do you have with the mom?

Do you think she would be open to talking about this or is she the type of parent that actually enjoys this kind of thing?

How is the DCK when on your watch without mom present?

Is there a dad in the picture at all?

You may have mentioned it earlier but how old is this kid?

[craftymissbeth]

Thanks, Blackcat.
We can't actually do that here. We are required to have eyes on every single child at every single second. So parents basically have to come in to the entryway, undress or supervise the undressing (cold weather gear) and bring the child in. Plus we are required to have parents sign in and out, and clocks won't work in the unheated entry.

I wonder if since the whole buh bye outside won't work you could modify it? DCK can be dressed, ready, and waiting with you... then dcm can come in, sign out, and once she's done all of that you can scoot them out of the door?

[Cradle2crayons]

I wonder if since the whole buh bye outside won't work you could modify it? DCK can be dressed, ready, and waiting with you... then dcm can come in, sign out, and once she's done all of that you can scoot them out of the door?

Hang the sign in and out clipboard outside the front door. She can knock, you take possession of child, mom signs in and leaves.

That won't work?

[craftymissbeth]

Thanks, Blackcat.
We can't actually do that here. We are required to have eyes on every single child at every single second. So parents basically have to come in to the entryway, undress or supervise the undressing (cold weather gear) and bring the child in. Plus we are required to have parents sign in and out, and clocks won't work in the unheated entry.

And just out of curiosity.. how do you not go to the restroom all day?

Here, we have a regulation similar to this for certain age groups, but it also says that if we are attending to personal hygiene for ourselves or if we are attending to other daycare related duties we are able to be out of sight as long the children are safe.

[Unregistered]

I'll tell you how ...

... I am secretly a camel
Actually our instructions are that if we go to the bathroom, for ourselves or to help a child, all children must accompany us. They are to sit directly outside a slightly cracked open door, each using an "enriching activity". Bonkers.

[Unregistered]

I wonder if since the whole buh bye outside won't work you could modify it? DCK can be dressed, ready, and waiting with you... then dcm can come in, sign out, and once she's done all of that you can scoot them out of the door?

I do my best. And she does her best to circumvent me. She has one child in my care, and one older one who is not doing well in school, behaviorally. The parents have no boundaries in any area, and talking to them, I may as well tell my infant. It's hard. It's going to end soon though. Every problem I have had in the past three years has been with them. I am done.

[Unregistered]

Meh...

Hang the sign in and out clipboard outside the front door. She can knock, you take possession of child, mom signs in and leaves.

That won't work?

We have to have exact times on our sign-in/sign-out sheet. Parent squabbles over the time, so I got a clock that connects wirelessly. End of that argument, but the clock runs on battery that won't work in the cold weather. Hence the problem, about 6-7 months of the year.

[Sunshine74]

... I am secretly a camel
Actually our instructions are that if we go to the bathroom, for ourselves or to help a child, all children must accompany us. They are to sit directly outside a slightly cracked open door, each using an "enriching activity". Bonkers.

You aren't from NY by any chance, are you? Because that is what licencing says for us, too.

[SilverSabre25]

We have to have exact times on our sign-in/sign-out sheet. Parent squabbles over the time, so I got a clock that connects wirelessly. End of that argument, but the clock runs on battery that won't work in the cold weather. Hence the problem, about 6-7 months of the year.

I use my phone. Phone times are all (or should all be) the same. Just a thought, if you were interested.

Your regs are dopey. :P how can you literally see every child at every second?! That's like...impossible. How can you serve lunch without turning your back a couple times?