What Would You Do In This Situation??

[CraftyMom]

I wouldn't want any part of it! I can't even imagine finding a dead baby The very thought is enough!

[jenboo]

Once again, I am not asking if you think the parents are making a good decision for their baby or not. I'm not asking about SIDS stats. I obviously cannot let her sleep on her tummy even if I wanted to.

I am asking for advice on how to help her learn to sleep on her back until she can roll over. Her issues are:
When she is on her back, she doesn't stop kicking her legs (when in the crib and on the floor playing)
When she turns her head to the sides, her binky falls out and wakes her up.
She hasn't really learned to **** on her fingers yet.

By the afternoon, she is so tired that she falls asleep everywhere except on her back in the crib. When she falls asleep, I have to move her to the crib. Thus, she wakes up and we start the cycle all over again.

I have tried swaddle sacks and sleep sacks. It doesn't seem to help much.

I was just wondering if anyone had any good advice on how to help her...Have you watched infants that would wake themselves up by their arm and leg movements? Did your child wake themselves up when their binky fell out of their mouth and didn't **** on their fingers yet?? What did you do??
I am not comfortable letting her scream for the 2 hours of nap time at such a young age.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just please don't respond if you dont have advice for helping her sleep.

[CraftyMom]

Honestly, I'm not sure YOU can help her. Her parents created this and continue it at home. They would have to be completely on board and put her on her back at home for her to get accustomed to it. I would probably have a talk with the parents and let them know of your regulations and that this is how it has to be, either they get on board or they don't. They may have to look into other options for childcare

As far as the arms and legs that's difficult. I have a "Swaddle Me" swaddler and when it is on nice and snug the baby can not move their arms much, the legs are not snug though.

[Meyou]

Can you swaddle her tightly with a normal thin blanket? One of my dd's would only sleep this way and it was mostly becuse she moved around so much on her back. She was a tummy sleeper from the second she could get herself into that position.

I never found the swaddlers worked very well. She needed her legs tight so we went with the old fashioned route. I don't know if this is possible with your rules though.

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

Once again, I am not asking if you think the parents are making a good decision for their baby or not. I'm not asking about SIDS stats. I obviously cannot let her sleep on her tummy even if I wanted to.

I am asking for advice on how to help her learn to sleep on her back until she can roll over. Her issues are:
When she is on her back, she doesn't stop kicking her legs (when in the crib and on the floor playing)
When she turns her head to the sides, her binky falls out and wakes her up.
She hasn't really learned to **** on her fingers yet.

By the afternoon, she is so tired that she falls asleep everywhere except on her back in the crib. When she falls asleep, I have to move her to the crib. Thus, she wakes up and we start the cycle all over again.

I have tried swaddle sacks and sleep sacks. It doesn't seem to help much.

I was just wondering if anyone had any good advice on how to help her...Have you watched infants that would wake themselves up by their arm and leg movements? Did your child wake themselves up when their binky fell out of their mouth and didn't **** on their fingers yet?? What did you do??
I am not comfortable letting her scream for the 2 hours of nap time at such a young age.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just please don't respond if you dont have advice for helping her sleep.

This is my infant. Miracle sleep suit for startle reflex? Wubbanub paci animal so the paci stays on chest?

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

Honestly, I'm not sure YOU can help her. Her parents created this and continue it at home. They would have to be completely on board and put her on her back at home for her to get accustomed to it. I would probably have a talk with the parents and let them know of your regulations and that this is how it has to be, either they get on board or they don't. They may have to look into other options for childcare

As far as the arms and legs that's difficult. I have a "Swaddle Me" swaddler and when it is on nice and snug the baby can not move their arms much, the legs are not snug though.

Snug legs leads to hip dysplasia which would be why it is loose.

[Childminder]

Have you tried swaddling and are you allowed to in your state? Can you let her fall asleep on her tummy and then move her to her back? Start working on the rolling over, practice, she's old enough to do it. I've cared for children that can at 6 weeks and two months. The Back to Sleep campaign has you lay her down on her back but once they are able to turn over you do not have to go back in and turn them back over.R 400.1912 1 of 1
R 400.1912 (1-6)
Rationale
Technical Assistance
Consultation
07/01/2009
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND CONSULTATION R 400.1912 FAMILY AND GROUP CHILD CARE HOMES
Infant supervision and sleeping.
(1) Infants, birth to 12 months of age, shall be placed on their backs for resting and sleeping.
(2) Infants unable to roll from their stomachs to their backs, and from their backs to their stomachs, when found facedown, shall be placed on their backs.
(3) If infants can easily turn over from their backs to their stom- achs, then they shall be initially placed on their backs, but allowed to adopt whatever position they prefer for sleeping.
(4) For an infant who cannot rest or sleep on her/his back due to disability or illness, the caregiver shall have written instructions, signed by a physician, detailing an alternative safe sleep position and/or other special sleeping arrangements for the infant. The car- egiver/assistant caregiver shall rest/sleep children in accordance with a physician's written instructions.
(5) Caregiving staff shall maintain supervision and monitor infants' breathing, sleep position, bedding, and possible signs of distress except as provided in R 400.1922.
(6) Video surveillance equipment and baby monitors shall not be used in place of subrule (5) of this rule.
Assures for the safety and well-being of infants as placing infants to sleep on their backs instead of their stomachs has been associated with a dramatic decrease in infant deaths.
Monitoring must be continual and must include visual observation of infants, with caregiving staff standing close enough to the infant to observe breathing patterns, sleep position and any signs of distress or discomfort.
It is recommended that the caregiver observe a sleeping infant fre- quently, every 15-20 minutes, to assure the infant is not in distress.
Resources include the following: • National SIDS Resource Center and the Back to Sleep Campaign
- www.sidscenter.org. • Local and state health departments. • Tomorrow's Child - www.tomorrowschildmi.org or 1-800-331-7437. • American Academy of Pediatrics - www.healthychildcare.org. • Department of Human Services - www.michigan.gov/safesleep.
Refer to R 400.1916 for information on bedding and sleeping equip- ment.
STATE OF MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES

There are studies out that say if you have a fan in the room circulating the air it'll move the carbon dioxide away from the babies and not cause SIDs.

http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20081006/sleeping-with-fan-may-lower-sids-risk

Here are a couple of handouts you could print out for the parents to read and encourage them to get on board.

http://www.healthychildcare.org/PDF/SIDSchildcaresafesleep.pdf

http://www.healthychildcare.org/PDF/SIDSparentsafesleep.pdf

[Solandia]

In my experience, a baby doesn't really learn to sleep on their back for naps only, if they still belly sleep @ home. Basically, it is just waiting until they learn to roll over and choose to sleep on their stomachs.

I would just make sure baby was getting his/her tummy time as play time (10-15 minutes at a time as part of their routine - I always did the EASY type of routine, even though I didn't know it has a name).

Not really the advice you are looking for, but while you can sleep train babies for naps @ daycare...i have never been able to back sleep train at daycare only.

"back to sleep" has been around almost 20 years. It isn't a recommendation that is going to go away anytime soon. It isn't a wishy-washy recommendation that changes every few years. The data supports back sleeping overwhelmingly.

[My3cents]

Once again, I am not asking if you think the parents are making a good decision for their baby or not. I'm not asking about SIDS stats. I obviously cannot let her sleep on her tummy even if I wanted to.

I am asking for advice on how to help her learn to sleep on her back until she can roll over. Her issues are:
When she is on her back, she doesn't stop kicking her legs (when in the crib and on the floor playing)
When she turns her head to the sides, her binky falls out and wakes her up.
She hasn't really learned to **** on her fingers yet.

By the afternoon, she is so tired that she falls asleep everywhere except on her back in the crib. When she falls asleep, I have to move her to the crib. Thus, she wakes up and we start the cycle all over again.

I have tried swaddle sacks and sleep sacks. It doesn't seem to help much.

I was just wondering if anyone had any good advice on how to help her...Have you watched infants that would wake themselves up by their arm and leg movements? Did your child wake themselves up when their binky fell out of their mouth and didn't **** on their fingers yet?? What did you do??
I am not comfortable letting her scream for the 2 hours of nap time at such a young age.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just please don't respond if you dont have advice for helping her sleep.

my advice would be to call your licensing and talk with parents. I don't know what to tell you- I don't think letting her scream for two hours is even an option- it wouldn't be for me. Licensing should be able to help you find a solution. Good luck~

[jenboo]

This is my infant. Miracle sleep suit for startle reflex? Wubbanub paci animal so the paci stays on chest?

I tried a woombie yesterday and it worked!! She slept for 2 and a half hours and only woke up a couple times! She put herself right back to sleep! I think the woombie made her feel more secure and it helped with keeping her arms and legs contained (she was still able to move everything so no worries about hip/leg issues).
The neck of the woombie even helped keep the binky from falling out!

I knew there was hope! happyface

[jenboo]

I'd start teaching her how to roll over. Once she's rolling over, you can put her down on her back and she'll switch herself. Most are doing it by 4 months, so you're almost there.

Great idea! I'm glad I was able to get her to sleep yesterday. We will start working on rolling over as well.

[TwinKristi]

I tried a woombie yesterday and it worked!! She slept for 2 and a half hours and only woke up a couple times! She put herself right back to sleep! I think the woombie made her feel more secure and it helped with keeping her arms and legs contained (she was still able to move everything so no worries about hip/leg issues).
The neck of the woombie even helped keep the binky from falling out!

I knew there was hope! happyface

Glad to hear this!!