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  • TaylorTots
    Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 609

    Have You Ever Termed A Family So You Could Enroll Another?

    Have you ever termed a family/dck so that you could enroll a different one?

    If so, can you give a few details about WHY you made the choice?


    I have a family with twins interested in care and they would be a good addition money to effort wise and would fit in great with the kiddos I have. However, it means terming a family I have (and there are two families who are close right now - a 4 year old who REFUSES to listen most days and an 11m old who is higher needs).\

    My contract says nothing regarding preference of care for FT vs. PT, etc. Just 2 week term period.
  • Play Care
    Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 6642

    #2
    Originally posted by TaylorTots
    Have you ever termed a family/dck so that you could enroll a different one?

    If so, can you give a few details about WHY you made the choice?


    I have a family with twins interested in care and they would be a good addition money to effort wise and would fit in great with the kiddos I have. However, it means terming a family I have (and there are two families who are close right now - a 4 year old who REFUSES to listen most days and an 11m old who is higher needs).\

    My contract says nothing regarding preference of care for FT vs. PT, etc. Just 2 week term period.
    I haven't done that per say, but I have termed a family who wasn't a good fit and had their spots filled immediately by kids who were a MUCH better fit. I see nothing wrong with terming any family whose kids are not working out in your program.

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    • cheerfuldom
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7413

      #3
      I see nothing wrong with it either. It's your business and you don't have to outline every practice in your contract. I would NOT tell the other parent that you are terming to take the twins. I think I would term the 4 year old and suggest that they put him in preschool and that your daycare is no longer a good fit for him. You still have a chance to transition this 11 month old into a reasonable toddler and have years with them but the 4 year old, there is only so much you can do. If he is going to be 5 soon, he is probably ready for a structured preK.

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      • EntropyControlSpecialist
        Embracing the chaos.
        • Mar 2012
        • 7466

        #4
        Originally posted by cheerfuldom
        I see nothing wrong with it either. It's your business and you don't have to outline every practice in your contract. I would NOT tell the other parent that you are terming to take the twins. I think I would term the 4 year old and suggest that they put him in preschool and that your daycare is no longer a good fit for him. You still have a chance to transition this 11 month old into a reasonable toddler and have years with them but the 4 year old, there is only so much you can do. If he is going to be 5 soon, he is probably ready for a structured preK.
        I agree!

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #5
          I have. I continually interview even if I am full because you never know.

          Sometimes a family comes a long that DOES better fit the group. I see nothing wrong with making changes accordingly.

          I do let my parents know that full time care will always get a higher priority over part time care but I will usually offer the part time family the full time space first UNLESS I think the new family is a better fit.

          I have also termed full timers to take a better-fitting full timer before.

          It's just business as far as I am concerned.

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          • TaylorTots
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 609

            #6
            Originally posted by cheerfuldom
            I see nothing wrong with it either. It's your business and you don't have to outline every practice in your contract. I would NOT tell the other parent that you are terming to take the twins. I think I would term the 4 year old and suggest that they put him in preschool and that your daycare is no longer a good fit for him. You still have a chance to transition this 11 month old into a reasonable toddler and have years with them but the 4 year old, there is only so much you can do. If he is going to be 5 soon, he is probably ready for a structured preK.
            The 4y dck is enrolled in a structured prek program and will be this coming year as well. Which makes it harder to make progress on the listening issue as the days she comes back from prek she is off the wall. I run a preschool program in house (an awesome one to boot!) and the twins are 2.5y so would fit into the program. It's really difficult on the 2 days the 4y dck is here for preschool because she refuses to participate most days and is quite a distraction.

            The 11m old is slowly molding - it's been a process but is coming along. We are finally on a good nap schedule, eating solids and drinking from sippys The downside to this dck is it is a teacher family so I have to fill that spot in the summer. However, this family will likely be around long term and supply at least one infant in the next 1.5-2.5 years.

            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            I have. I continually interview even if I am full because you never know.

            Sometimes a family comes a long that DOES better fit the group. I see nothing wrong with making changes accordingly.

            I do let my parents know that full time care will always get a higher priority over part time care but I will usually offer the part time family the full time space first UNLESS I think the new family is a better fit.

            I have also termed full timers to take a better-fitting full timer before.

            It's just business as far as I am concerned.
            I don't have a full time vs. part time clause mostly because I charge a much higher rate for PT so my 3day/week families pay close to what my full time families do...I can rarely fill the openings PT spots leave so I treat them as taking a FT spot - if that makes any sense.




            It's be the first time I termed without a BIG reason (e.g. aggression), but I suppose the 4y olds inability to adjust and distract the other children from staying on task is a BIG reason...

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by TaylorTots

              It's be the first time I termed without a BIG reason (e.g. aggression), but I suppose the 4y olds inability to adjust and distract the other children from staying on task is a BIG reason...
              The behavior of the 4 yr old, coupled with the fact that she also attends preschool would be reason enough for me to term and replace with a regularly attending child.

              If the parents can remove the child from your day on a partial basis to do what's best for them (sending her to preschool), then you can do the same..and term her for a better fit.

              That family did what was best for them.

              You can do what's best for you (your business)

              It goes BOTH ways.

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              • TaylorTots
                Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 609

                #8
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                The behavior of the 4 yr old, coupled with the fact that she also attends preschool would be reason enough for me to term and replace with a regularly attending child.

                If the parents can remove the child from your day on a partial basis to do what's best for them (sending her to preschool), then you can do the same..and term her for a better fit.

                That family did what was best for them.

                You can do what's best for you (your business)

                It goes BOTH ways.
                BC I lovethis you :hug: That made such logical sense, how can I argue with that?

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                • TwinKristi
                  Family Childcare Provider
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 2390

                  #9
                  I agree- the 4yr old is going to age out of your program soon anyway to go on to school. Combined with needing the space for another family, behavior, PT attendance... It just makes sense.

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                  • mountainside13
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 777

                    #10
                    I did recently! I don't see a problem with it.

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                    • EntropyControlSpecialist
                      Embracing the chaos.
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7466

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TwinKristi
                      I agree- the 4yr old is going to age out of your program soon anyway to go on to school. Combined with needing the space for another family, behavior, PT attendance... It just makes sense.
                      Absolutely.

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                      • TaylorTots
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 609

                        #12
                        Do you have your parents sign termination letters?

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TaylorTots
                          Do you have your parents sign termination letters?
                          I have a withdrawal form I have parents sign/date.

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                          • EntropyControlSpecialist
                            Embracing the chaos.
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 7466

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TaylorTots
                            Do you have your parents sign termination letters?
                            I do. But, I have had to mail one in the past so obviously that one was not signed.

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                            • TaylorTots
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 609

                              #15
                              Wrote up term letter, dated today. Last day of March 26th to give two full weeks. Included an invoice statement of fees due, listed due date March 21st (they are paid till then). Added a signature spot.

                              Practicing my statements as always. "No longer able to provide childcare for DCK. Here is a termination letter in accordance with our policies."

                              dcp: "But...why?"

                              "No longer able to meet her childcare needs."

                              "But...why?"

                              "She is not adjusting to our program here and it is causing numerous distractions with the other children in care. I wish you the best of luck in finding a provider who can better meet her needs."
                              needs."


                              It's sad I practice my lines but otherwise I jumble them all up and look like an idiot when terming.

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