My Class Is Out Of Control!

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  • Laurel
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3218

    #31
    Besides what everyone else said, I would personally be afraid that if someone else reported it they would come back to you with "You knew what was going on. Why didn't you report this?"

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    • drseuss
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 271

      #32
      I can't wrap my brain around any center operating with zero regard for safe ratios. Don't they have surprise inspections?

      Would the center be running with proper ratios if some of the staff were moved into different rooms?

      I think you are under moral and legal obligation to report this to the authorities. I'd let the director know that is my intention, too.

      Sorry you're dealing with this. You must be exhausted in every way.

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      • drseuss
        New Daycare.com Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 271

        #33
        By the way, in the state I live in, the room you are in charge of would require four staff people.

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        • Heidi
          Daycare.com Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 7121

          #34
          It really bothers me that a church, of all things, would condone this.

          There is NO reason that center should be operating in the red. If there are that many children enrolled and the ratios are off, they should be making money. Someone from that church should be scrutinizing their books.

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          • Unregistered

            #35
            Perhaps the church itself is in the red, which is pretty common. The daycare may be a money maker to reduce the overall church debt.

            Sometimes churches do not have to follow the same standards as other childcare environments. I wonder if that is the case here? It all just seems incredibly wrong.

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            • craftymissbeth
              Legally Unlicensed
              • May 2012
              • 2385

              #36
              Originally posted by Heidi
              It really bothers me that a church, of all things, would condone this.

              There is NO reason that center should be operating in the red. If there are that many children enrolled and the ratios are off, they should be making money. Someone from that church should be scrutinizing their books.
              Yep. Not to mention it's not even like they're spending all their money on equipment or supplies, obviously.

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              • cheerfuldom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7413

                #37
                A lot of churches rent out their buildings and are essentially landlords only. They do not run, staff, license, etc. the actual daycare. I know several churches in our town where parts of the property are used for daycares and schools and are not run by church member or affiliated with the church outside of renting the property.

                Just had to throw that out there so we don't all attack "church people" when we don't know the full story.

                What we do know is that the OP is a part of the system and instead of reporting, she is trying to fix the problem single handedly. It is a SHAME that parents think this is a quality place. That so many 1 year olds are being grouped together with one worker, essentially no toys or age appropriate stimulation, next to no outside time. Sure there is gym time but I would bet that also is over ratio/under staffed/chaotic. Makes me ill to think that all those babies are being treated like animals......piled on top of one another and running around wild.

                PLEASE REPORT THIS PLACE AND REFUSE TO WORK FOR A CENTER THAT CLEARLY HAS NO REGARD FOR LICENSING AS WELL AS ETHICAL TREATMENT OF OTHERS.

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                • NeedaVaca
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 2276

                  #38
                  Also, if the church is only the landlord I bet they would want to know as well. When the center gets in trouble for this the church will look bad just from association.

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                  • Laurel
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 3218

                    #39
                    If push came to shove another possibility would be to let the parents of the 1 year olds know about the problem. Once parents start pulling kids, it gets the directors attention as they are losing money.

                    Of course, you'll probably get fired but to witness the abuse of these children every day (and that is what I think it is...not by you OP, just the situation itself) would be enough for me to quit and and then notify authorities AND parents.

                    Laurel

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                    • Unregistered

                      #40
                      The church finance committee are the ones that decided the director couldn't hire anyone else right now. Her hands are tied. The whole thing is crazy.

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                      • llpa
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 460

                        #41
                        I agree that the church could be landlords and not aware. I rent the lower level of a church building and they have no clue what I do. They put complete trust in me. And if the center is church run, they need to follow the same guidelines as I do to be licensed in this state. I can't believe that this situation hasn't been questioned by a parent or past employee. There is no solution to "fix" the classroom. It just needs to stop. Op, I hope you can find it in yourself to blow the whistle and get these little ones into a situation where they can thrive.

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                        • Unregistered

                          #42
                          No, the church is actually doing okay. If it weren't for the church helping out the daycare, it would have probably closed down by now.

                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Perhaps the church itself is in the red, which is pretty common. The daycare may be a money maker to reduce the overall church debt.

                          Sometimes churches do not have to follow the same standards as other childcare environments. I wonder if that is the case here? It all just seems incredibly wrong.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #43
                            Exactly. Even our cots are metal and probably ten years old. I seriously have no clue where the money is going

                            Originally posted by craftymissbeth
                            Yep. Not to mention it's not even like they're spending all their money on equipment or supplies, obviously.

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                            • My3cents
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 3387

                              #44
                              You know all of this is wrong yet you continue to stay and work in this environment? I think you need to report this, asap. I would not give my director a heads up either. She is setting you up to fail. You also need training. Having been in childcare you know this is wrong- Something happens to one of those kids you will be held responsible- Why are one year old's doing arts and crafts and this being held as important at this age. I don't see how basic needs can be met for 14 kids to one provider under age one let alone add to it with arts and crafts. This wrong on so many levels and you either have clients that don't know better or don't care- This makes me mad. I hope your going to do the right thing and report this and most likely get out of there and the mess of it- Shaking my head:confused:

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                              • My3cents
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 3387

                                #45
                                oh ya and kids are not bad either! Esp one year old children!!!

                                I can understand how you got ****ed into this but now its time to do the right thing!

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