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[DaycareMom]

I was planning on taking a vacation in April and informed DCFs of the dates last week.

DH was laid off today, so I informed DCFs I would be canceling the vacation due to my husband being laid off.

One DCM is saying she already took a few days off and is not sure if she can change them.

Since she already took time off, would you just make her pay for the days she brings the kids or the whole week?

Normally I would charge -if I am available, they pay - but since I told her I would be taking that vacation week (which would not have been paid), should I give her a break and only have her pay for the days DCKs come?

Any advice is appreciated. TYIA!

[Lucy]

Normally I would charge -if I am available, they pay - but since I told her I would be taking that vacation week (which would not have been paid), should I give her a break and only have her pay for the days DCKs come?

Regarding the bolded question above -- Yes.

So sorry your husband was laid off! And that you had to cancel a vacation! I'm sure you were looking forward to the time off!!

For this mom - since she took the time off work solely because of your days off, then I would definitely not charge her for the days she does not bring the kids. If she chooses to bring them part of the week, charge her for the days the kids come, but not for the days they don't. It's only fair IMO.

Hope your husband finds work soon!!!

[preschoolteacher]

First, you take unpaid vacation. I totally believe providers deserve paid vacations. Second, you are cancelling your trip because your husband was laid off. With that combination, I think the parent SHOULD pay you if you are open and available to provide care. She should be giving you a break!

It was only a few days between notification and being laid off. You are still available to watch her kids.

[llpa]

I wouldn't charge her if she already made arrangements based on what you told her to do. That being said, In the future you deserve to be paid for your vacation time. That way you cld have still taken off and been paid. I am sure you would like and need the time off! Also, so sorry about the layoff! That stinks. Been there and done that but the hubs ended up w a better job! I hope that happens for you and yours!

[Laurel]

Regarding the bolded question above -- Yes.

So sorry your husband was laid off! And that you had to cancel a vacation! I'm sure you were looking forward to the time off!!

For this mom - since she took the time off work solely because of your days off, then I would definitely not charge her for the days she does not bring the kids. If she chooses to bring them part of the week, charge her for the days the kids come, but not for the days they don't. It's only fair IMO.

Hope your husband finds work soon!!!

[Blackcat31]

I'm sorry your home life has changed.

In regards to charging, I would not charge families.

Especially the ones who made arrangements based on your schedule.

YOUR schedule/plans changed, theirs didn't...kwim?

If mom chooses to bring the kids, I would absolutely charge but not if she planned on using alternate care or just staying home that same week.

[TheGoodLife]

I can see not charging, but given the little time between taking off and canceling, as well as the fact that time off wasn't until April, I'd charge full rate. If they argue, let them take their own vacation days (if you offer them) but I can't see someone not being able to change work days off a week later for almost two months out- unless they have their own plans that happened to fall on the same days. Now, if you had the time off scheduled for a long time, or if the vacation was coming soon that would be a different story, IMO.

So sorry to hear about your husband, I hope he finds work soon :hug:

[momofboys]

Is DCM not able to retract the days she asked off for? It is over a month away?! I don't see why you should have to suffer with no pay. I'm sorry about your DH's layoff.

[momofboys]

I can see not charging, but given the little time between taking off and canceling, as well as the fact that time off wasn't until April, I'd charge full rate. If they argue, let them take their own vacation days (if you offer them) but I can't see someone not being able to change work days off a week later for almost two months out- unless they have their own plans that happened to fall on the same days. Now, if you had the time off scheduled for a long time, or if the vacation was coming soon that would be a different story, IMO.

So sorry to hear about your husband, I hope he finds work soon :hug:

^^^this

[DaycareMom]

I can see not charging, but given the little time between taking off and canceling, as well as the fact that time off wasn't until April, I'd charge full rate. If they argue, let them take their own vacation days (if you offer them) but I can't see someone not being able to change work days off a week later for almost two months out- unless they have their own plans that happened to fall on the same days. Now, if you had the time off scheduled for a long time, or if the vacation was coming soon that would be a different story, IMO.

So sorry to hear about your husband, I hope he finds work soon :hug:

I was thinking the same thing. It was literally less than a week in between telling about the vacation and canceling it.

DCM couldn't find care for Monday of my vacation week and I told her I would postpone my vacation to help her out, so I am hoping she will do the same and help me out.

I think I will just wait it out and see what happens. If she doesn't pay me for the one day she says she can't switch, I will let it go. If she does pay me, then great!

Thank you all for your help!

[Scribbles]

It isn't the DCM's fault your DH got fired and your plans changed.

Just because it is still a few weeks away doesn't mean DCM should have to go back and retract her requested vacation days. If I were her boss, I might not be too thrilled about that.

I am surprised at how many posters think it is the DCM's problem.

What if DCM already asked grandma to plan a visit or if she made reservations somewhere already. It isn't unfathomable that a parent actually plans things in advance.

It may not be fair that the provider misses out on pay but it isn't because of the DCM not coming... It's because the provider has to cancel her plans.

[Unregistered]

It isn't the DCM's fault your DH got fired and your plans changed.

Just because it is still a few weeks away doesn't mean DCM should have to go back and retract her requested vacation days. If I were her boss, I might not be too thrilled about that.

I am surprised at how many posters think it is the DCM's problem.

What if DCM already asked grandma to plan a visit or if she made reservations somewhere already. It isn't unfathomable that a parent actually plans things in advance.

It may not be fair that the provider misses out on pay but it isn't because of the DCM not coming... It's because the provider has to cancel her plans.

I would agree if it weren't for the timing- it has been less than a week before plans changed and she has a month and a half to two months before the scheduled vacation would have occurred.

[momofboys]

It isn't the DCM's fault your DH got fired and your plans changed.

Just because it is still a few weeks away doesn't mean DCM should have to go back and retract her requested vacation days. If I were her boss, I might not be too thrilled about that.

I am surprised at how many posters think it is the DCM's problem.

What if DCM already asked grandma to plan a visit or if she made reservations somewhere already. It isn't unfathomable that a parent actually plans things in advance.

It may not be fair that the provider misses out on pay but it isn't because of the DCM not coming... It's because the provider has to cancel her plans.

You are right, it isn't the DCM's fault. But I could see her wanting to take other days off, she was only taking them off to coincide with DCP's trip. If I was at a job & had over a month's notice I likely would ask my boss to cancel those days off. This really is not a big deal but either way it should be up to the DCM, you are right about that. I do suppose it depends on where you work. My DH has had the same job for over 16 yrs & never had issues changing vacation time so long as he gave notice. I also have held several jobs prior to having children - one where I was there 8 years. I can't imagine it being a problem.

[Blackcat31]

It isn't the DCM's fault your DH got fired and your plans changed.

Just because it is still a few weeks away doesn't mean DCM should have to go back and retract her requested vacation days. If I were her boss, I might not be too thrilled about that.

I am surprised at how many posters think it is the DCM's problem.

What if DCM already asked grandma to plan a visit or if she made reservations somewhere already. It isn't unfathomable that a parent actually plans things in advance.

It may not be fair that the provider misses out on pay but it isn't because of the DCM not coming... It's because the provider has to cancel her plans.

I agree!

I would agree if it weren't for the timing- it has been less than a week before plans changed and she has a month and a half to two months before the scheduled vacation would have occurred.

I don't think the timing should have anything to do with it. My contract states when my vacations are and what kind of notice I will give if I take any unplanned time off. It doesn't account for my ability to change things just in case something happens (spouse losing job/canceling my plans etc).

Unless OP writes that she has xx amount of days to take back what she said, I think what she said (vacation will be xx days) should stand.

If DCM wants to work with her and find a solution to this...great! That is always the best route to take.

I just do not believe that this mom should have to pay anything if she decides to stay home and not use care for the week the provider originally planned vacation.

I am a VERY prompt person and I like to plan things in advance. If someone told me of a schedule change on Tuesday, by Wednesday morning I would have all my necessary arrangements in place to accommodate that.....and not happy if I was asked to change those plans because of something that had nothing to do with me.