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  • Sugar Magnolia
    Blossoms Blooming
    • Apr 2011
    • 2647

    Opting Out of "Stars" Program Because....

    I'm tired of being a square peg being rammed into a round hole.
    Background for members who don't know me....

    Small, multi-age center, only 15 students.
    My husband is my business partner and co-lead teacher, one other staffer as an assistant.
    I have college degree (BA), NOT in ECE, husband has AA, also not in ECE.
    We enroll 1 to 5 year olds.
    We have a play based curriculum.

    This is our fourth year in the program.

    They only want to evaluate same-age "classrooms" now. Well, we don't do that.
    The director has to have a BA or higher in ECE. That's me, sorry degree in Anthropology, but enough ECE courses to be granted a Directors Credential.
    They want 75 percent of lead teachers to have a BA or higher in any field. Well, with only 2 lead teachers, we are either 0%, 50% or 100%, not mathematically possible to have 75% with a staff of 2.
    They want written evidence of monthly lead teacher staff meetings. Its called our dinner table, we're married, why write down 12 fake staff meetings?

    These evaluators always rave about our program, environment, curriculum, family involvement, etc. We would be 5 stars without all that administrative junk.

    We are basically a large family daycare in principal. We are a center for licensing purposes because we don't live in the building. They concede this, but this year they insist on evaluating same-age classrooms. I asked to be evaluated as a family child care, but that was not possible. Rules, ya know.

    Why settle for 3 stars, when you AND the powers that be KNOW your environment warrant 5 stars?

    Consequences.....we can no longer accept subsidy.
    We will not be eligible for certain grants.
    We will no longer appear in their advertisements.
    My translation....."we're gonna hit you in the pocketbook if ya don't cooperate".

    My center is not what they are accustomed to dealing with. Multi age approach, however, is something all you ladies can relate too......include the younger ones in play, improved vocabulary and language acquisition, roles of leadership for the older ones, greater pro-social behavior, etc. Siblings together, home like atmosphere, personal attention, the list goes on and on......but you know that already.

    So was I wrong to opt out? Am I being a cry baby? Should I have continued trying to fit the mold? What about the actual physical human children that qualify for subsidy but can not come here anymore? I only have one child on it now, an easy pie wonderful 4 year old girl that I am prepared to keep at her state rate anyways. The state paid about 50% of her tuition of $185 per week, so I'll take the hit to keep this awesome child. But no more in the future.
  • Sugar Magnolia
    Blossoms Blooming
    • Apr 2011
    • 2647

    #2
    Oh and this....my email to them explaining why I was opting out (very professionally worded) went completely unanswered.

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    • Laurel
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 3218

      #3
      Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
      I'm tired of being a square peg being rammed into a round hole.
      Background for members who don't know me....

      Small, multi-age center, only 15 students.
      My husband is my business partner and co-lead teacher, one other staffer as an assistant.
      I have college degree (BA), NOT in ECE, husband has AA, also not in ECE.
      We enroll 1 to 5 year olds.
      We have a play based curriculum.

      This is our fourth year in the program.

      They only want to evaluate same-age "classrooms" now. Well, we don't do that.
      The director has to have a BA or higher in ECE. That's me, sorry degree in Anthropology, but enough ECE courses to be granted a Directors Credential.
      They want 75 percent of lead teachers to have a BA or higher in any field. Well, with only 2 lead teachers, we are either 0%, 50% or 100%, not mathematically possible to have 75% with a staff of 2.
      They want written evidence of monthly lead teacher staff meetings. Its called our dinner table, we're married, why write down 12 fake staff meetings?

      These evaluators always rave about our program, environment, curriculum, family involvement, etc. We would be 5 stars without all that administrative junk.

      We are basically a large family daycare in principal. We are a center for licensing purposes because we don't live in the building. They concede this, but this year they insist on evaluating same-age classrooms. I asked to be evaluated as a family child care, but that was not possible. Rules, ya know.

      Why settle for 3 stars, when you AND the powers that be KNOW your environment warrant 5 stars?

      Consequences.....we can no longer accept subsidy.
      We will not be eligible for certain grants.
      We will no longer appear in their advertisements.
      My translation....."we're gonna hit you in the pocketbook if ya don't cooperate".

      My center is not what they are accustomed to dealing with. Multi age approach, however, is something all you ladies can relate too......include the younger ones in play, improved vocabulary and language acquisition, roles of leadership for the older ones, greater pro-social behavior, etc. Siblings together, home like atmosphere, personal attention, the list goes on and on......but you know that already.

      So was I wrong to opt out? Am I being a cry baby? Should I have continued trying to fit the mold? What about the actual physical human children that qualify for subsidy but can not come here anymore? I only have one child on it now, an easy pie wonderful 4 year old girl that I am prepared to keep at her state rate anyways. The state paid about 50% of her tuition of $185 per week, so I'll take the hit to keep this awesome child. But no more in the future.
      I am in Broward County and a fellow provider told me that they gave it up here. All I can say is happyface. I would have 'never' agreed to it. I would have definitely opted out. They have been trying to get it going here for years.

      I can't speak for centers because I do it in my home but home providers here were co-operative about being 'guinea pigs' here to help them get it going. Their requirements were insane. Finally providers here just rebelled I guess because I hear they gave it up. Officially I'm not sure but I wouldn't have done it anyway.

      Only once in 18 years has a potential client even asked me to see my license let alone anything else. I really don't think parents here care if you have 'stars'.

      Laurel

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      • Laurel
        Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3218

        #4
        Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
        Oh and this....my email to them explaining why I was opting out (very professionally worded) went completely unanswered.
        Somehow I don't think you'll be the only one opting out.... Good for you!

        Laurel

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        • Sugar Magnolia
          Blossoms Blooming
          • Apr 2011
          • 2647

          #5
          Originally posted by Laurel
          I am in Broward County and a fellow provider told me that they gave it up here. All I can say is happyface. I would have 'never' agreed to it. I would have definitely opted out. They have been trying to get it going here for years.

          I can't speak for centers because I do it in my home but home providers here were co-operative about being 'guinea pigs' here to help them get it going. Their requirements were insane. Finally providers here just rebelled I guess because I hear they gave it up. Officially I'm not sure but I wouldn't have done it anyway.

          Only once in 18 years has a potential client even asked me to see my license let alone anything else. I really don't think parents here care if you have 'stars'.

          Laurel

          It's not so much the prestige of the 5 stars....it's the inability to accommodate lower income families. I feel like I failed them....and abandoned my pincipals.

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          • Laurel
            Daycare.com Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 3218

            #6
            Oh that's too bad. I tried taking state paid and got approved and after one child decided it was too much of a hassle. Too many hoops to jump through. It was a great mom and baby though.

            Plus the state paid centers more than home providers and favored centers in other ways over home providers. So my parent just went to a center as it was even cheaper than me and I can't blame her. I couldn't compete with the center because they got higher state payments than me.

            Laurel

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            • Naptime yet?
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 443

              #7
              I second the "good for you"!

              Stars looks good on paper. You can turn in all the paperwork, jump through all the hoops, but still be a mediocre daycare in reality.

              I tell all my parents to trust their instincts. If you're happy with your provider, if your child(ren) are happy, then who cares how many stars they have (and I agree with Laurel, my license is posted, but my dcps rarely check the parent bulletin board).

              I applaud you for being a conscientious provider because that is more important than your star rating!

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              • mom2many
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 1278

                #8
                I'm with you too! I've been a family home daycare provider for almost 28 years and feel many of your sentiments! I'm all for quality child care and having providers educated, but there's A LOT to be said for "education" and just plain common sense. It's very frustrating!

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                • thetoddlerwhisper
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 394

                  #9
                  i wish we'd op out of stars.its so chaotic and some of the guidelines are pretty rediculous

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                  • Annalee
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 5864

                    #10
                    Originally posted by athacker
                    i wish we'd op out of stars.its so chaotic and some of the guidelines are pretty rediculous
                    I agree, I wish we were allowed to opt-out or the report card was set up different where all areas counted and did not rely totally on your assessment score, but until the law changes TN providers (FCC or Center Care) are mandated to complete the stars report card!

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                    • Second Home
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 1567

                      #11
                      They are just starting the starts rating here in MD . Not everyone has to join the program , unless you have state kids then you must participate or not get paid by the state.

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                      • Annalee
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5864

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Second Home
                        They are just starting the starts rating here in MD . Not everyone has to join the program , unless you have state kids then you must participate or not get paid by the state.
                        The state offers a higher reimbursement rate here based on your stars....

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dapb45
                          The state offers a higher reimbursement rate here based on your stars....
                          Same here.

                          I am struggling with our stars program too for some of the very reasons Sugar mentioned but unlike Sugar, I am able to work around ALOT of that because I am choosing to remain licensed as a family child care verses a center.

                          If I licensed as a center then EVERYTHING would change.

                          Sugar.... your experience is EXACTLY why I was dissing the stars system last year on the board when this subject came up. I could see this (the issues you are having) coming a mile away.

                          What a shame. :confused: This program is suppose to increase the quality of care not run people out of business.

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                          • Cat Herder
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 13744

                            #14
                            :hug: I am with you. lovethis

                            My letter was not quite as courteous.... ::::

                            Luckily my clients were offended by the level of Govt interference with their child care choice, Uneven funding opportunities, State micro-managing and intrusion into their private information. They fully supported my decision. And by "supported" I mean encouraged it.

                            Turns out a few letters to the editor of local newspapers by K-12 educators have turned public opinion in my area.
                            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                            • Heidi
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7121

                              #15
                              I didn't even read all the answers, but yes, yes, yes!

                              A couple weeks ago, I was sitting with my husband having coffee, and my teens were hanging out for a few minutes chatting. DCK #1 arrived (baby) I sat him on my lap and snuggled. 7am, mind you. DCK #2 came a couple minutes later (2yo), ran to the playroom, got a stuffed animal, then joined us on the couch. We sat there maybe 20 minutes, just chatting, then DH and the kids went on their way.

                              While I sat there, I thought, to me THIS is family childcare.

                              It's not washing your hands after touching the dog, it's not having a science center, a dramatic play area, a reading corner, a math area, a manipulative center, a block area, a gross motor space, a space for alone time, art supplies always available, having at least 3 books available at all times for each age group, coats separated by at least 12 inches for sanitation, toothbrushes being in separate containers, counting out enough wipes ahead of time for a diaper change, being in sight AND sound, not allowing children to wait more than 3 minutes for a meal, singing songs on the way to the bathroom, outdoor time, indoor time, handwashing...whew! It's not that some of those things aren't important. But, a there are so many ways to provide art, music, language, and literacy, for instance. Having centers is great, but not necessary.

                              How can you really measure quality, when it's about the personal relationships you develop with the children and their families? That you get to know the children's personalities, what's important to them, how to respond to them as individuals and still honor who YOU are?

                              I have one child on state assistance. He's the oldest in the group, and once he moves on, I will also opt out.

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