Need Advice... Mom Doesn't Want Son to Have Hep B Immunizations

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  • TwinKristi
    Family Childcare Provider
    • Aug 2013
    • 2390

    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    One more thing... I really appreciate all of your help with this...

    My policy states that each child's immunization records MUST be completely up to date for all vaccines before coming to the daycare. He kinda slid thru the cracks (my fault on that). So now I am trying to decide if I either:

    1) Let her slide and have her sign the waiver on the back of the blue card
    2) Stick to my policies and say he needs to get the shots up to date or can't come to the daycare.

    I've never had this situation before. I also noticed that he hasn't had his MMR yet... but he is only 12 months old so he still has some time. I don't want to force her to get shots for her kid that she doesn't want to, but I also don't want to break my policies for a new family.
    Are you willing to lose the family if they say no thank you? Because I can promise you I would never let someone else force me to vaccinate my child. In CA we have the right to make that choice and no one should be able to take that away from anyone else. They could also claim discrimination. The law is on their side here, your policy is just that... "Your" policy. The daycare 3 blocks away will be more than happy to accept this child missing only 1 vaccine. If you don't have Hep B and none of your DC kids have Hep B it isn't an issue anyway. Have you asked all your families if they have it?
    And yes, MMR isn't required at 12mos.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #17
      Originally posted by TwinKristi
      Are you willing to lose the family if they say no thank you? Because I can promise you I would never let someone else force me to vaccinate my child. In CA we have the right to make that choice and no one should be able to take that away from anyone else. They could also claim discrimination. The law is on their side here, your policy is just that... "Your" policy. The daycare 3 blocks away will be more than happy to accept this child missing only 1 vaccine. If you don't have Hep B and none of your DC kids have Hep B it isn't an issue anyway. Have you asked all your families if they have it?
      And yes, MMR isn't required at 12mos.
      I agree with you about parents having the right to choose and I do NOT believe anyone should be able to take that right away, however I don't believe that this would fall under discrimination.

      I think when the state requires something as a general rule (immunizations) that allowing "exceptions" is simply that. An exception. I don't think that exception would or could be defined as discrimination.

      The more I read, I believe that it depends on HOW each individual state words their laws.

      It depends on whether your state requires private schools, centers and family child cares to allow the "exceptions" according to this site.

      "Whether or not state exemption laws apply to private schools and homeschools depends on the specific wording of each state's laws. For example, in 2006, the Texas State Attorney General issued a formal opinion concluding that Texas law doesn't require private schools to accept religious exemptions unless the school receives state funding. In contrast, North Carolina's religious exemption law does apply to all private schools."

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      • TwinKristi
        Family Childcare Provider
        • Aug 2013
        • 2390

        #18
        I'm talking more like they may "claim" she's discriminating. If public schools, child care providers and such merely have to sign this paper to be exempt, why can these entities then say no? I get why in general, they can have their own contract rules, but I would be pissed. My line of thinking is this... Someone else will end up watching this child if you force them to vaccinate when they don't "have to"... If i termed a child for being naughty and they went to another provider than woohoo! Their problem now. But if it's over something literally clerical, it's only your loss and their gain.

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        • Cat Herder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 13744

          #19
          Originally posted by TwinKristi
          if it's over something literally clerical.
          I'd guess it would offend those who believe vaccines are only clerically important. :confused: Getting medical exemptions are really difficult here.

          No matter what we do someone will try to claim discrimination... it is a two way street.

          If they can be offended I only enroll kids with a complete immunization form with a valid expiration date signed by a physician (regulations), I can be offended they refuse to provide one.

          I don't think anyone will win a discrimination suit on this one.
          Last edited by Blackcat31; 01-27-2014, 11:28 AM.
          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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          • TwinKristi
            Family Childcare Provider
            • Aug 2013
            • 2390

            #20
            Originally posted by Cat Herder
            I'd guess it would offend those who believe vaccines are only clerically important. :confused: Getting medical exemptions are really difficult here.

            No matter what we do someone will try to claim discrimination... it is a two way street.

            If they can be offended I only enroll kids with a complete immunization form with a valid expiration date signed by a physician (regulations), I can be offended they refuse to provide one.

            I don't think anyone will win a discrimination suit on this one.
            I'm not saying immunizations are "clerical" or anything of the sort. I'm saying in CA when the parents have the choice for an exemption unlike many other states and the provider won't allow it due to her contract stating otherwise. That's clerical, it's a typed up policy by a person making the rules for their business but the state regs for schools and daycares allows for something less strict. My point was that DCM can easily find another daycare that WILL allow this parent to refuse the Hep B shot and be within the state regs. If she's willing to lose this family over that then so be it. I'm just pointing that part out. She's choosing to be that strict, she isn't bound by licensing to be unlike many other rules we have.

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