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  • cheerfuldom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7413

    #16
    There is no way in hell I would work for this family. All of that combined is downright ridiculous. If someone was using swear words in my home and in front of the kids, oh hell no! I would term on the spot. If they think the work daycare will be so awesome, just let them go find another provider while they wait on that. Do you know how many times I have heard of people offering sick care? Almost none. It is so rare. This company obviously has no clue what they are getting into and the liability that will come with offering care to children who could be bringing in all manner of illness and exposing not only other kids but all the employees as well. I will bet 99.9999% sure that this idea will go nowhere fast. These parents have no idea what they are talking about. Please do not put up with this nonsense.

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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #17
      Originally posted by Jack Sprat
      Well, DCM just called and was venting about missing work and dcg being exposed to germs. So she is on her way.

      THEN! She says I don't want you to be upset but, I talked with administration and they are going to write up a business plan so we can get a daycare opened here at work. And have a sick room for sick kids. So we don't have to miss work when our kids are sick and when our providers kids are sick.

      Now what do I do????? I want to cry so bad. I'm angry and now saddened by this. And wondering how much since it makes to have a bunch of sick kids all together....
      I don't understand why you would be angry for her work to set up a daycare for their employees. A lot of larger companies do this. It really wouldn't be any of your business if they set off an area or a room for sick kids.

      It doesn't sound like this family is a good fit for your business and vice versa. It's time to give them notice and move on.

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      • nannyde
        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
        • Mar 2010
        • 7320

        #18
        Originally posted by Jack Sprat
        Well, DCM just called and was venting about missing work and dcg being exposed to germs. So she is on her way.

        THEN! She says I don't want you to be upset but, I talked with administration and they are going to write up a business plan so we can get a daycare opened here at work. And have a sick room for sick kids. So we don't have to miss work when our kids are sick and when our providers kids are sick.

        Now what do I do????? I want to cry so bad. I'm angry and now saddened by this. And wondering how much since it makes to have a bunch of sick kids all together....
        Have no fear... setting up something like that is EXTREMELY hard. It would take YEARS for them to put that together. The insurance ALONE is going to be EXTREMELY hard to get.

        She may have SUGGESTED this to her work... but it won't happen.

        We had ONE sick bay here and it was almost completely funded by a ladies auxillary at a hospital. They went belly up eventually. They had to staff with RN's and it was very expensive.

        Each state has sick child care regs. They are usually so cumbersome and the liability SO high that they don't get off the ground.
        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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        • nannyde
          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
          • Mar 2010
          • 7320

          #19
          Originally posted by Jack Sprat
          He then went on to say he would give it to his wife and let her call and rip my ass. His words! .


          Bye Bye Daddy
          http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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          • e.j.
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 3738

            #20
            Originally posted by Jack Sprat
            DH and I are going to discuss it together tonight. He is the business manager. But, does understand the issues going on. I know I would feel better for standing up for myself. Right now I'm feeling dumb for not. Grrr! I will grow a back bone!
            These parents have hit you with a lot of attitude all at once and it really can throw you for a loop! You're not not standing up for yourself and you're not dumb. You are acting professionally. You and your husband will take the time tonight to discuss the issue and come to an agreement on how to handle it. It's always best to assess the situation first, take the emotion out of it and react after thinking it through. It's never too late to stand up for yourself. Whether you decide to have that "come to Jesus" meeting with this family or you decide to give them their termination notice, you will be standing up for yourself. You're just taking the time to decide how best to do that.

            Originally posted by Play Care
            This. Let me tell you what, there is no way their DC will be up and running anytime soon. The are just in the proposal stages - this means they have NO idea what running a licensed care facility entails. Who knows when, or if, it will ever get off the ground. Or what they will charge employees to have their kids there - I know someone who loved their company DC, until they raised their rates and they could no longer afford to send their kids there.

            My advice? TERM. "DCP's it sounds as if my program is not a good fit for your families needs. Effective (two weeks?) I will no longer be able to provide care for your child. Should you need assistance with your child care search the local referral agency can be reached at 1-800-HAHAHA."
            So....dcm "talked with administration and they are going to write up a business plan so we can get a daycare opened here at work. And have a sick room for sick kids. So we don't have to miss work when our kids are sick and when our providers kids are sick." Really??! She's been working at her place of employment for 7 weeks and all it takes to get a day care started there is her going in and talking to administration?? I think she's either very naive about what it will take for that to happen or she's trying to call your bluff, hoping you don't want to lose her business. I wouldn't worry about it!::

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #21
              Originally posted by e.j.
              These parents have hit you with a lot of attitude all at once and it really can throw you for a loop! You're not not standing up for yourself and you're not dumb. You are acting professionally. You and your husband will take the time tonight to discuss the issue and come to an agreement on how to handle it. It's always best to assess the situation first, take the emotion out of it and react after thinking it through. It's never too late to stand up for yourself. Whether you decide to have that "come to Jesus" meeting with this family or you decide to give them their termination notice, you will be standing up for yourself. You're just taking the time to decide how best to do that.



              So....dcm "talked with administration and they are going to write up a business plan so we can get a daycare opened here at work. And have a sick room for sick kids. So we don't have to miss work when our kids are sick and when our providers kids are sick." Really??! She's been working at her place of employment for 7 weeks and all it takes to get a day care started there is her going in and talking to administration?? I think she's either very naive about what it will take for that to happen or she's trying to call your bluff, hoping you don't want to lose her business. I wouldn't worry about it!::
              thats what I though too. WOW really. after 7 weeks you can go in and call the shots.

              hahahahahah yeah right. I would term on the spot. no two weeks.

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              • Shell
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 1765

                #22
                Term! Agree with everyone above, and I am angry for you. Yeah, good luck dcm with that daycare at your work (if it ever happens). I would show her the door tomorrow

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                • Meeko
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4349

                  #23
                  I don't believe her "sick daycare at work" story for a single second. This is pure intimidation tactics.

                  Term.

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                  • daycarediva
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 11698

                    #24
                    I would not allow them to enter my home again. I would call and term IMMEDIATELY. Even have something written down as a script to say. Get into NO back and forth, and be done.

                    "dcm/dcd upon careful consideration, I believe it's for the best that we part ways now. I will refund you/your balance is..... and dck's things will be mailed to the address I have on file. Best of luck to you."

                    Like a bandaid.


                    I would NEVER allow someone to speak to me that way. I would term a child over this, let alone an adult.

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                    • melilley
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 5155

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jack Sprat
                      Well, DCM just called and was venting about missing work and dcg being exposed to germs. So she is on her way.

                      THEN! She says I don't want you to be upset but, I talked with administration and they are going to write up a business plan so we can get a daycare opened here at work. And have a sick room for sick kids. So we don't have to miss work when our kids are sick and when our providers kids are sick.

                      Now what do I do????? I want to cry so bad. I'm angry and now saddened by this. And wondering how much since it makes to have a bunch of sick kids all together....
                      She is being a bully! I am mad for you too! Please, please don't let this family upset you! I would term and tell them that now they can take dck to this "sick" daycare at work when it opens, which will take forever. I have never heard of any daycare having a sick room. She must not care if her kid is sick or not, but she is taking dck home because she has been exposed to germs? :confused:

                      :hug: I hope you figure out what you want to do with this family so you don't have to feel the way you do. Don't let them intimidate you!

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                      • JoseyJo
                        Group DCP in Kansas
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 964

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jack Sprat
                        I'm in KS! I KNEW that was against regs. I didn't however, say anything. Should I mention it to her?
                        Yep, def against regs. St Francis (or maybe it was Stormont) here in Topeka had a "sick care" drop in program a long time ago. It was shut down about 15 years ago because of changing regulations and disease control.

                        I wouldn't say anything to her about the "new daycare". The next time she complains about you closing or her having to keep her child home due to sickness just tell her that it is per licensing regulations.

                        Stand firm sister!

                        Edited to add- Personally I would just term due to the language use and the lack of respect. If you don't want to do that I would at least be VERY firm on all your policies and the next time he/she tries to disrespect you say "Excuse me?? Please don't speak to me in that manner again. It is very disrespectful and inappropriate. It's time for you to go. See you tomorrow DCG."

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                        • Jack Sprat
                          New Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 882

                          #27
                          We are terming. DH would like to see the spot filled first. I want to give the two weeks and be done. They letter is drafted and ready to hand them. DH said he would be present when it was delivered as I see drama coming! I have a family wanting care starting in July. We are going to visit with them and discuss the holding fee. Also, have a family starting tentatively in a week. They have one week left to begin paying their holding fee.

                          We live in a very small area (like no stop light for 30 miles) and I was concerned about negative gossip etc. But, as many say people will look at the source and figure out truth from gossip.

                          Thank you all so much for your advice and support! :hug:

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                          • TwinKristi
                            Family Childcare Provider
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2390

                            #28
                            Wow! I'm in shock. Like Melilley I tend to be on the easy-going side as well but that's just plain rude and disrespectful. I'm sure I would be shocked at first but by the time it set in I'm sure I'd be drafting term papers. and as much as I know filling a spot first is important, allowing them to stay will only create more problems.

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                            • Happily_wed
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 82

                              #29
                              Families can disagree with my rules or policies but they can act like adults and speak to me kindly about it. The first threat to "rip my ass" and I would be showing their ass the door! I would term this family immediately if you can afford to!

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                              • NeedaVaca
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 2276

                                #30
                                Update? Curious as to if you have termed or if not how things are going?

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