Are There Regulations To Follow When You Are Not Registered?

[BentleysBands]

this was the first paragraph of that BLOG you posted - and i wonder if you think it sheds daycare in a positive light?

"Although most daycare facilities will accept babies, they may not be able to give the individual attention that parents hope for. Daycares also typically charge more for a baby than for an older child. The provider will have several children to watch and entertain in a daycare, and your baby may be in a playpen or swing for most of the day, and not carried around as you might do. The possible lack of attention during the day may lead to a fussy or clingy baby in the evening. A babysitter will be able to focus completely on a baby, which may be a better situation."

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/67...#ixzz13kQEB7CQ

not such a good source to support your case.

imo...it does...i cant provide that one on one attention since i have many children because i'm a daycare provider

[BentleysBands]

I'm done...cant get blood from a turnip

we each have a different opinion so I agree to disagree

[QualiTcare]

imo...it does...i cant provide that one on one attention since i have many children because i'm a daycare provider

okay, if you're cool with being accused of leaving kids in a playpen of a swing all day, and not giving them enough attention - call yourself a daycare provider all you want.

i can be looked up on the state's website as a teacher fit to teach in any classroom in my state, but when keeping children in my home without being licensed - i'm not held to any higher standards than a BABYSITTER and that's how i liked it. if you don't like being held to lower standards TECHNICALLY in the eyes of the law, then become a childcare provider. until then, your standards are not set any higher than a teenager watching a kid.

[QualiTcare]

I'm done...cant get blood from a turnip

we each have a different opinion so I agree to disagree

and you can't get licensing standards from a person that provides "informal care," "babysitting services," or whatever else you would like to call it. that was the question.

[BentleysBands]

for someone w/over 24 yrs experience , HIGHLY recommended, awesome references and an excellent preschool program...feel free to slam me
and compare me to a teenage babysitter...whatever makes you feel good

[QualiTcare]

I'm done...cant get blood from a turnip

we each have a different opinion so I agree to disagree

drip, drip

[BentleysBands]

From what I understand, in my state, you can have up to 2 kids without being registred and I guess they call it being informal care. I was just wondering though, if there are any rules or regulations that we are suppose to follow or are we just suppose to wing it and make up our own? Like I do not require a health immunzation form, because the state is not watching me or over seeing what I do, but does that mean I do not need one? That was just a example, but ya know, just stuff like that. Anyone know?

I would check around w/your state and other providers in your area as to what they may do. i personally run my DAYCARE just as any licensed person would do ieaperwork,contracts,schedulings,meals,etc....mainly to keep parents from using me and protecting myself for any reason. I also use the funshine express curriculum (i no longer purchase but use their monthly themes,etc and then google the appropriate activities)

[legomom922]

In my opinion, a "babysitter" is a teenager or someone who watches a child "ocassionaly" while parents go out for a night, and doesn't have to claim her income.

A child care provider, is someone who watches children for living, on a regular basis and claims her income.

To me, the difference between a registred/licensed childcare provider and a unregistred/unlicensed childcare provider, is only the amount of kids they can have in their care.

Just because my state says that if I have 2 kids, I don't need a license, doesn't make me any less of a "childcare provider". The reasons why I assume the state doesnt require check ups and regulations on unregistred providers, is that because of the amount of kids in that providers care.

Now, can we get back to MY question?? The only reason why I wanted to know if there are any regulations at all on unregistred providers, is because I have one mom who has not turned in her contract, and her enrollment forms including the immunization form, and I want to be able to tell her I HAVE to have these things! She thinks (and she is a friend) because I am not registred and I am her friend, that I don't truly NEED these things and that they don't pretain to her. See, the problem is, I used to watch her baby when I was not in "business" so it was very casual and I had no rules, no forms, etc. She left for about 8 months, and now I am in "buisness" and she's confused I guess..If she insisits I dont really need those things, and if I really dont, I dont have a leg to stand on..Know what I mean?

[QualiTcare]

In my opinion, a "babysitter" is a teenager or someone who watches a child "ocassionaly" while parents go out for a night, and doesn't have to claim her income.

A child care provider, is someone who watches children for living, on a regular basis and claims her income.

To me, the difference between a registred/licensed childcare provider and a unregistred/unlicensed childcare provider, is only the amount of kids they can have in their care.

Just because my state says that if I have 2 kids, I don't need a license, doesn't make me any less of a "childcare provider". The reasons why I assume the state doesnt require check ups and regulations on unregistred providers, is that because of the amount of kids in that providers care.

Now, can we get back to MY question?? The only reason why I wanted to know if there are any regulations at all on unregistred providers, is because I have one mom who has not turned in her contract, and her enrollment forms including the immunization form, and I want to be able to tell her I HAVE to have these things! She thinks (and she is a friend) because I am not registred and I am her friend, that I don't truly NEED these things and that they don't pretain to her. See, the problem is, I used to watch her baby when I was not in "business" so it was very casual and I had no rules, no forms, etc. She left for about 8 months, and now I am in "buisness" and she's confused I guess..If she insisits I dont really need those things, and if I really dont, I dont have a leg to stand on..Know what I mean?

i did answer your question - the answer was "no, you aren't REQUIRED to have anything more than a babysitter would be, but it would be wise to." - or something like that.

[legomom922]

There are rules for a "legally exempt" provider...what is the difference between a legally exempt provider and a informal care provider then?

[BentleysBands]

In my opinion, a "babysitter" is a teenager or someone who watches a child "ocassionaly" while parents go out for a night, and doesn't have to claim her income.

A child care provider, is someone who watches children for living, on a regular basis and claims her income.

To me, the difference between a registred/licensed childcare provider and a unregistred/unlicensed childcare provider, is only the amount of kids they can have in their care.

Just because my state says that if I have 2 kids, I don't need a license, doesn't make me any less of a "childcare provider". The reasons why I assume the state doesnt require check ups and regulations on unregistred providers, is that because of the amount of kids in that providers care.

Now, can we get back to MY question?? The only reason why I wanted to know if there are any regulations at all on unregistred providers, is because I have one mom who has not turned in her contract, and her enrollment forms including the immunization form, and I want to be able to tell her I HAVE to have these things! She thinks (and she is a friend) because I am not registred and I am her friend, that I don't truly NEED these things and that they don't pretain to her. See, the problem is, I used to watch her baby when I was not in "business" so it was very casual and I had no rules, no forms, etc. She left for about 8 months, and now I am in "buisness" and she's confused I guess..If she insisits I dont really need those things, and if I really dont, I dont have a leg to stand on..Know what I mean?

totally agree and very well said...i posted something in ref to your question

[QualiTcare]

There are rules for a "legally exempt" provider...what is the difference between a legally exempt provider and a informal care provider then?

do the families you keep receive chilcare assistance through the state? i don't see why you'd be classified as legally exempt otherwise. if you were receiving money from the state, i would think they would have provided you with information about any policies the may have - which are not anywhere near the same as being licensed.

if you are not licensed and you are not keeping more children than your state allows, you aren't held to any regulations by the state! the state only regulates LICENSED providers or UNLICENSED providers who are breaking the law. i don't see what the confusion is.

[mac60]

In my opinion, and probably other's here too. A daycare provider and a baby sitter are different. A babysitter is typically a person that is younger, is hired on a here to there basis, comes into the homes of the families to care for their children while the parents go out. A daycare provider is typically an adult that is running a business, has a regular schedule, pays taxes, keeps records, has some type of program, licensed or not depending on the state regs.

[TGT09]

I'm not licensed either (and I don't have to be) but my state does have one rule/law that I have to follow. "No more than 6 kids at one time and no more than 3 of those can be under the age of 2."

It does depend on your state though. I would definitely check out your jobs and family services website.

FYI- I'm fairly certain that no one SITS ON BABIES here!

[QualiTcare]

In my opinion, and probably other's here too. A daycare provider and a baby sitter are different. A babysitter is typically a person that is younger, is hired on a here to there basis, comes into the homes of the families to care for their children while the parents go out. A daycare provider is typically an adult that is running a business, has a regular schedule, pays taxes, keeps records, has some type of program, licensed or not depending on the state regs.

you're exactly right. that wasn't the point. the point was - and this is what was stated - you are not held to any different or higher standards or regulations than a babysitter if you are not licensed.

if that is not true, please tell me who regulates you?