Ratios & Capacity With And Without An Assistant

[spinnymarie]

In IL with the family license you can only have 8 kids - with or without an assistant. If you get the larger 'group' license you can have 12 with an assistant, so same issue as you.
My sister and I want to do this together, but it would actually make us more money to do it separately.

[Maria2013]

I'm in MI and have the same ratio's as Sunny, but I also can have a capacity of 12 even though I'm licensed (registered) for 6.
Only 4 can be under 30 mo. and 2 of the 4 under 18 mo.

I can only have up to 6 non related children and have to count my own under the age of 7, but I have a capacity of 12 and can take over my 6 if....the children are over the age of 7 and are related.

It's confusing, I know. We actually had a "class" on capacity vs. ratio at our required orientation.

what?? can you give me a quick lesson?::::
I thought we couldn't have more kids than we're licensed for

[melilley]

what?? can you give me a quick lesson?::::
I thought we couldn't have more kids than we're licensed for

I know, it's weird. If you look at rule R400.1908 and rule R 400.1910, it kind of explains it.
Basically it says any children under the age of 7, related or unrelated have to be counted in ratio. You can care for any children related to you who are over the age of 7 and not have to count them, but they have to be related. My licensing consultant actually had us do an exercise about this.

[Meeko]

Can have 4 unlicensed

Can have 8 licensed with one provider (as long as the home has the required square footage) No more than 2 kids under 2 years old.

Can have 16 licensed with 2 providers (as long as the home has the required square footage) No more than 4 kids under age 2.

[Maria2013]

I know, it's weird. If you look at rule R400.1908 and rule R 400.1910, it kind of explains it.
Basically it says any children under the age of 7, related or unrelated have to be counted in ratio. You can care for any children related to you who are over the age of 7 and not have to count them, but they have to be related. My licensing consultant actually had us do an exercise about this.

I don't count my 3 kids cause they're over 7yr...but if I did count them then I would say I'm licensed for six but have capacity of 9 I guess

[daycare]

here in cali we can leave our children with our asst.

we can have 8 kids on a small license, 2 can be under two and two have to be school age children.

on a large license we can have 4 under 2, and 8 preschool age and 2 must be school age for a total of 14 kids. we must have 2 adults present at all times

They make it almost impossible to grow your business and make a profit. I am able to do it, but I don't really make much more money at all. BUT I do enjoy working with other adults.

Look further into it and see if there are age restrictions.

[MCC]

I'm in Virginia, and I really like the way we have it here.

Unlicensed, you can have 5, with the exception of your own. 4 of them can be under 2.

Licensed, you can have up to 12 with a special permit from the county, but the basic license is for 7, both with the exception of your own. Children are pointed.

0-15 months is 4 points
16-23 months is 3 points
24m-4 years is 2 points
4 and up is 1

Each provider can have a total of 16 points to her self, two providers, 32 points, and so on.

So technically I could have 12 infants, as long as that is all I took, and I had 2 full time assistants.

[TwinKristi]

I'm in Virginia, and I really like the way we have it here.

Unlicensed, you can have 5, with the exception of your own. 4 of them can be under 2.

Licensed, you can have up to 12 with a special permit from the county, but the basic license is for 7, both with the exception of your own. Children are pointed.

0-15 months is 4 points
16-23 months is 3 points
24m-4 years is 2 points
4 and up is 1

Each provider can have a total of 16 points to her self, two providers, 32 points, and so on.

So technically I could have 12 infants, as long as that is all I took, and I had 2 full time assistants.

Wow! So like a 4:1 ratio which is what most states limit infants to but yours allow multiple people. I can have only 4 infants, 3 under 2yrs and 3 over 2yrs or like Play Care said, 2 infants, 2 school aged and 4 in between 2yrs and school aged totalling 8.

[Maria2013]

I'm in Virginia, and I really like the way we have it here.

Unlicensed, you can have 5, with the exception of your own. 4 of them can be under 2.

Licensed, you can have up to 12 with a special permit from the county, but the basic license is for 7, both with the exception of your own. Children are pointed.

0-15 months is 4 points
16-23 months is 3 points
24m-4 years is 2 points
4 and up is 1

Each provider can have a total of 16 points to her self, two providers, 32 points, and so on.

So technically I could have 12 infants, as long as that is all I took, and I had 2 full time assistants.

I wish I could have 5 unlicensed, I'd be dropping this #$%# piece of paper so fast::

[Babyluver2]

CO

You can have:

Unlicensed: 1 family at a time, no # of kids specified

Licensed (FCC):
Up to 6 children, 2 under 2 + 2 additional before/after school (total of 8). This ratio includes your own children under age 12.

You can do group care 12 children, still 2 under 2 but need an assistant.

You can apply for conditional licenses. I had a 3 under 2 license; condition was I had twins and one baby of a sibling already in care.

You cannot be dually licensed for foster care/ child care at the same time even if you are under the ratios.

Anything over 12 children is considered "commercial" and you'd have to have it separate from your home.

[Maria2013]

You can apply for conditional licenses. I had a 3 under 2 license; condition was I had twins and one baby of a sibling already in care.

I wonder if that was true in my state too if they would allow me to have 7 kids instead of 6 or if taking the twins meant I had to drop one other kid

[Cradle2crayons]

I wish I could have 5 unlicensed, I'd be dropping this #$%# piece of paper so fast::

Unlicensed here we can have five also. NOT counting our own children, regardless of our kids age.

[Maria2013]

Unlicensed here we can have five also. NOT counting our own children, regardless of our kids age.

oh you so lucky! I'm jealous

[Cradle2crayons]

oh you so lucky! I'm jealous

Lol it would be better but rates here stink.

[kelsey's kids]

Does anybody else have to have a sprinkler system?