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  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #31
    The bottom line is you do what you are comfortable doing.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #32
      This is for California providers

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      • daycare
        Advanced Daycare.com *********
        • Feb 2011
        • 16259

        #33
        Originally posted by Blackcat31
        thanks BC I really don't know the infant laws anymore here in CA. I have only ever had two infants in my care and that was when I first started. found out early on that it was not for me.....

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #34
          Originally posted by daycare
          thanks BC I really don't know the infant laws anymore here in CA. I have only ever had two infants in my care and that was when I first started. found out early on that it was not for me.....
          Yeah, your regs are weird and confusing too...Like Sharlan said, all kind of gray.

          The link I just posted said infants may spend time in bouncy chairs etc but then your state regs say "Baby walkers (exersaucers, jumpers, bouncy seats, and similar items) are not allowed on the premises" so it's almost like...well, which is it?

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          • sharlan
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2011
            • 6067

            #35
            BC, I am having computer issues, may have picked up a virus today.

            Anyways, from what I can tell, the link that you posted is from the University of California San Francisco. They have nothing to do with Title 22 Regs.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #36
              Originally posted by sharlan
              BC, I am having computer issues, may have picked up a virus today.

              Anyways, from what I can tell, the link that you posted is from the University of California San Francisco. They have nothing to do with Title 22 Regs.
              Yeah, I know...it does say Child Care Health Programs on it and I found the link on the California DHS website on the same page they post regs for both family child cares and centers so I assume it is a practice that your state supports and recommends. ...even if it isn't an actual written regulation.

              Your Title 22 stuff is THE strangest stuff I've read yet when it comes to each individual state. :confused:

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              • daycare
                Advanced Daycare.com *********
                • Feb 2011
                • 16259

                #37
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                Yeah, I know...it does say Child Care Health Programs on it and I found the link on the California DHS website on the same page they post regs for both family child cares and centers so I assume it is a practice that your state supports and recommends. ...even if it isn't an actual written regulation.

                Your Title 22 stuff is THE strangest stuff I've read yet when it comes to each individual state. :confused:
                CA= land of the fruits and nuts................

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                • sharlan
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 6067

                  #38
                  Yep, and if you notice, the Title 22 Regs have not been updated since 2009.

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                  • TwinKristi
                    Family Childcare Provider
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 2390

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    This isn't a state site, this is a UCSF nursing program that works with child care programs on safety. This is a great resource but by no means law. I have yet to find anything in title 22 about car seats except proper use when transporting.

                    As I've said, a recommendation is one thing and a law is another. It's recommended children under 2 remain rear facing in their seats but LAW says 1yr/20lbs.

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                    • sharlan
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 6067

                      #40
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      CA= land of the fruits and nuts................
                      Yep, you got it.

                      Our Title 22 Regs say nothing about letting kids jump off the roof either, but we don't let them do it.

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                      • Meeko
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4351

                        #41
                        Originally posted by nannyde
                        Does your state allow you to have them sleep in a car seat? It's not old school in Iowa. It's illegal.
                        Same in Utah. We are required to take them out of a car seat immediately upon arrival. Doesn't matter if they are asleep or not. Car seats cannot be used as infant chairs during the day either.

                        However, I don't like storing the darn things, so I have parents just bring in the baby...no matter how small. Makes my life easier.

                        I've had a provider friend receive a citation because licensing showed up a minute flat after baby did...before she had a chance to get baby out of the seat. Don't wan't to run that risk either.

                        Like Nannyde....I want to see the baby and check it over before the parent leaves.

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                        • Nellie
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 259

                          #42
                          I had a mom that wouldn't leave till I took the baby out of the car seat. I am paranoid about the letting a baby sleep in a car seat, but she dropped off at 7:15 and my son leaves for pre K at 7:30. She typically left at 7:25. The baby was always sleeping and would wake up as soon as he was out and typically only slept 10 mins here and there(maybe totaling an hour) the entire 10 1/2 hour day here. I just wanted to let him sleep till 7:31 after I sent my son out the door. I ended up having to have my son in all his gear ready to go before she came. Days she was 5 mins early, I would just have to set the baby down and let him cry while I helped get DS out the door. He started at 6 weeks and only stayed till 3 1/2 months. A close family member lost her job and needed the extra money. I had gotten to the point that I didn't know what to do with the baby. I tried every trick in the book even when held he wouldn't stay asleep.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            I thought it was advised that we never accept a sleeping child in a carseat into care. They must be wakened before the parent leaves. A liability thing?
                            I never heard that and my own kids HAD to sleep in a seat due to apnea issues. IDK how weird that now they're saying you can't do that???? I can't imagine what kind of liability it would cause?

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                            • NeedaVaca
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2276

                              #44
                              Honestly, I don't care if there is a specific law telling me we can't do it. If you do the research and know it's a risk then it's a risk I'm not willing to take. I don't know if there is a law saying I have to cut my grapes before giving them to the kids but I cut them, it's a risk I'm not willing to take.

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                              • TwinKristi
                                Family Childcare Provider
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 2390

                                #45
                                You ladies are unbelievable sometimes... Seriously!

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