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haha..."why don't we just manufacture robots instead of students?"
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That was excellent! I wonder how he got so smart without all if this "common core" in his day! :
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What is Common Core? Some kind of new curriculum, like the Standards of Learning 15 years ago?
From what I've heard its the devil...Comment
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Common core is standardize measures in each academic area by grade level to be implemented nationally so that all students have common learning.Comment
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Amen! happyface
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In WI, we have common core standards for K-12, called Wisconsin Model Learning Standards. We also have WMELS: Wisconsin Model Early Learning Standards.
While they don't involve "testing" in the K-12 sense, the teaching cycle tied to it does involve assessment, goal setting, and writing a curriculum based on those assessments and goals. This applies to infants, toddlers, and preschoolers, and means WRITTEN assessments, WRITTEN goals, and a WRITTEN, planned curriculum.
So, for example, I would look at an infants gross motor development, and say "oh...he is here on the continuum. I would like to help him move along the continuum. How can I do this? Well, I can set the goal of helping him learn to sit up. What activities can I plan to help him learn to sit up? When will I implement those activities? What barriers might I encounter and how can I work around them? How will I know when I've met this goal? How will I communicate to parents what we are doing?
Now, I would do this for each child in my program, in each area of development. For the 5 month old, the 11 month old, the 11 1/2 month old, and the 2 year old. I would manage this all on top of the 50 hours per week I already work, and while respecting each child's natural rhythm for sleep and nutrition, and providing positive guidance for the children, and plenty of outdoor time, and teacher-led physical activities, and sensory experiences, and parent communication (preferably a newsletter and several events per year, plus annual conferences), and focused portfolios, and nutritious meals, and paperwork, and caregiving routines, and cleaning and sanitation. I'm sure I missed something. All this for what amount to minimum wage, and for children who's parents want only a safe, loving, and fun CHILDCARE PROVIDER.Comment
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Common Core IS AWFUL in my state schools! I have a 4th and 6th grader. Not only is school work bad but so is the testing that comes in the spring. Students must be proficient in three of four subjects to move on the next grade. This testing is 15% of my children's last 9 weeks grade, then averaged with the other 9-week grades. IT IS A MESS!
This is the core: my youngest must know his math facts....example 7 x 3 =21...Instead of that being enough, in his work he has to prove this by doing this: 7 x (2+1)...... 7 x 2 =14 and 7 x 1 = 7 ...... 14 + 7 = 21 Therefore 7 x 3 = 21.... Did this exact problem a few weeks ago and met with the teacher to talk about the craziness of this. Teachers in my state hate it...say it moves so fast that the kids struggling get left behind.....
We are creating IT tech robots.....
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Oh my goodness, I was trying to explain this new way of doing math to someone the other day. My daughter got it all, thankfully all of my children are gifted at math (didn't get that from me) but trying to help her with homework was frustrating to say the least. I remember sitting there going 3 x 5 = 15, 4 x 5 = 20 etc. and telling her that's how it went and she was about in tears trying to explain that's not how it works. She's 13 now ans even though she's geese at math I don't think she can sit there and list 2 x 7= 14, 3 x 7 = 21 etc. there's no memorization to it, no automatic response. I get why they are doing it this way (I was never good at the memorization myself) but it really ended up being a mess for the kids who didn't start that way but had to change how they did things.Common Core IS AWFUL in my state schools! I have a 4th and 6th grader. Not only is school work bad but so is the testing that comes in the spring. Students must be proficient in three of four subjects to move on the next grade. This testing is 15% of my children's last 9 weeks grade, then averaged with the other 9-week grades. IT IS A MESS!
This is the core: my youngest must know his math facts....example 7 x 3 =21...Instead of that being enough, in his work he has to prove this by doing this: 7 x (2+1)...... 7 x 2 =14 and 7 x 1 = 7 ...... 14 + 7 = 21 Therefore 7 x 3 = 21.... Did this exact problem a few weeks ago and met with the teacher to talk about the craziness of this. Teachers in my state hate it...say it moves so fast that the kids struggling get left behind.....
We are creating IT tech robots.....Comment
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Amen!!In WI, we have common core standards for K-12, called Wisconsin Model Learning Standards. We also have WMELS: Wisconsin Model Early Learning Standards.
While they don't involve "testing" in the K-12 sense, the teaching cycle tied to it does involve assessment, goal setting, and writing a curriculum based on those assessments and goals. This applies to infants, toddlers, and preschoolers, and means WRITTEN assessments, WRITTEN goals, and a WRITTEN, planned curriculum.
So, for example, I would look at an infants gross motor development, and say "oh...he is here on the continuum. I would like to help him move along the continuum. How can I do this? Well, I can set the goal of helping him learn to sit up. What activities can I plan to help him learn to sit up? When will I implement those activities? What barriers might I encounter and how can I work around them? How will I know when I've met this goal? How will I communicate to parents what we are doing?
Now, I would do this for each child in my program, in each area of development. For the 5 month old, the 11 month old, the 11 1/2 month old, and the 2 year old. I would manage this all on top of the 50 hours per week I already work, and while respecting each child's natural rhythm for sleep and nutrition, and providing positive guidance for the children, and plenty of outdoor time, and teacher-led physical activities, and sensory experiences, and parent communication (preferably a newsletter and several events per year, plus annual conferences), and focused portfolios, and nutritious meals, and paperwork, and caregiving routines, and cleaning and sanitation. I'm sure I missed something. All this for what amount to minimum wage, and for children who's parents want only a safe, loving, and fun CHILDCARE PROVIDER.Comment
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The crazy thing about that is that the whole point of doing math this way is that it's supposed to PREVENT just memorizing facts. It's supposed to give kids who don't just memorize easily another CREATIVE way to figure out the answer. "How many ways can you figure this out?" is not supposed to be the test. It's supposed to be a way to learn to solve problems and think outside the box. Now, they've just made the freakin' box a lot bigger.Common Core IS AWFUL in my state schools! I have a 4th and 6th grader. Not only is school work bad but so is the testing that comes in the spring. Students must be proficient in three of four subjects to move on the next grade. This testing is 15% of my children's last 9 weeks grade, then averaged with the other 9-week grades. IT IS A MESS!
This is the core: my youngest must know his math facts....example 7 x 3 =21...Instead of that being enough, in his work he has to prove this by doing this: 7 x (2+1)...... 7 x 2 =14 and 7 x 1 = 7 ...... 14 + 7 = 21 Therefore 7 x 3 = 21.... Did this exact problem a few weeks ago and met with the teacher to talk about the craziness of this. Teachers in my state hate it...say it moves so fast that the kids struggling get left behind.....
We are creating IT tech robots.....
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Another reason why I will scrape, work and save to send my child to a non-traditional school, preferably a Waldorf.Comment
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My daughter is in kinder. Her class is structured with Common Core standards and her teacher is very young so the teacher has always done these standards (no old habits to break). so this scenario is working very well for my girl because she is self motivated, very smart and enjoys worksheets and that sort of thing. however, I have a special needs child starting kinder next year and i am very worried for how she will fare. The common core standards is a fast pace and a lot of work and I dont see my second daughter doing well there. I dont know what we will do.....Comment
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I was just talking to my family about this very thing. The way they teach math now is just crazy! My dd is in 5th grade and honestly, it is very difficult for me to help her because I have no idea how they teach them to figure out the problems. It's sad.Common Core IS AWFUL in my state schools! I have a 4th and 6th grader. Not only is school work bad but so is the testing that comes in the spring. Students must be proficient in three of four subjects to move on the next grade. This testing is 15% of my children's last 9 weeks grade, then averaged with the other 9-week grades. IT IS A MESS!
This is the core: my youngest must know his math facts....example 7 x 3 =21...Instead of that being enough, in his work he has to prove this by doing this: 7 x (2+1)...... 7 x 2 =14 and 7 x 1 = 7 ...... 14 + 7 = 21 Therefore 7 x 3 = 21.... Did this exact problem a few weeks ago and met with the teacher to talk about the craziness of this. Teachers in my state hate it...say it moves so fast that the kids struggling get left behind.....
We are creating IT tech robots.....Comment
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The crazy thing about that is that the whole point of doing math this way is that it's supposed to PREVENT just memorizing facts. It's supposed to give kids who don't just memorize easily another CREATIVE way to figure out the answer. "How many ways can you figure this out?" is not supposed to be the test. It's supposed to be a way to learn to solve problems and think outside the box. Now, they've just made the freakin' box a lot bigger. Now instead of the kids just memorizing facts, they are one day going to be sitting there saying, for instance at the grocery store, "well if you take this and subtract this then take away 10, there's my answer" instead of Bam-this is it. Kwim? It sounds better when I think of it in my head.....
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