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  • CedarCreek
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1600

    #31
    Oh, I see now! Wow, 6 days a week? I'd be so worn out.

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    • morgan24
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 694

      #32
      Originally posted by gracepatiencelove
      I just got on the food program and I'm just not liking it.

      I've been reading a lot about milk and so have my DCP. We all agree on whole milk being the safest choice.... Food program lady calls and says no. Don't do that. I serve pomegranates and they're not on the claiming list... she says, don't serve.

      I do not like being told to serve certain things. I'm not happy with this program. I am running a very small in home care program and I have been told/read in my handbook for food program... no wild caught food.... no home grown food.... you must do this this this... etc.

      Am I the only person who thinks it is not worth it? I'm about to quit and raise prices or ask for some things to be provided... idk.
      I checked on my food program and we are allowed to serve pomegranates. I thought that the food program was federally funded and the requirements are the same everywhere. The milk requirement is the same as yours, I think they are nuts if they think that changing milk requirements to skim, 1/2 or 1% is going to help combat childhood obesity. We are allowed wild game as long as it's usda certified. I question staying on the food program because of some of the rule changes.

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      • Angelsj
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1323

        #33
        Originally posted by Blackcat31


        Healthy carbs are absolutely necessary for your body to process the protein.

        If you eat a high protein diet with little or no carbs you will have just as many health issues as someone who eats a high carb/low protein diet.

        Foods are definitely designed to work together.


        My mom used to be a big time carb counter...then my DH got Type 1 diabetes and we learned about the necessity and importance of carbs (GOOD carbs) and their tie to protein.
        I don't disagree, but the food program demands too much. Well, ok they don't DEMAND it, but the suggestion is there. Also, I can't help but wonder why it is ok to serve an orange and liquid milk, but NOT ok to serve orange juice and yogurt with lunch? :confused:
        Not necessarily every lunch, but why can't I switch it up. Same basic nutrients there..serve carrots too, and you have fiber. I just don't get it.

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #34
          Originally posted by Angelsj
          I don't disagree, but the food program demands too much. Well, ok they don't DEMAND it, but the suggestion is there. Also, I can't help but wonder why it is ok to serve an orange and liquid milk, but NOT ok to serve orange juice and yogurt with lunch? :confused:
          Not necessarily every lunch, but why can't I switch it up. Same basic nutrients there..serve carrots too, and you have fiber. I just don't get it.
          Because the orange juice companies don't have as big of a pull in government as the corn and dairy industries do...

          Just be grateful that McDonald's doesn't get any input. ::


          I agree about the weird guidelines the food program has but I just make do the best I can.

          I don't feel that the majority of a child's nutritious eating/meals should come from me anyways.

          I never expected the schools or my child's daycare to make sure my kids ate healthy. That was MY job as a parent.

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          • Leigh
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3814

            #35
            Originally posted by Angelsj
            I don't disagree, but the food program demands too much. Well, ok they don't DEMAND it, but the suggestion is there. Also, I can't help but wonder why it is ok to serve an orange and liquid milk, but NOT ok to serve orange juice and yogurt with lunch? :confused:
            Not necessarily every lunch, but why can't I switch it up. Same basic nutrients there..serve carrots too, and you have fiber. I just don't get it.
            My sponsor told me that the list isn't necessarily the law. She asked if there were something that I would like to claim that isn't on the list to contact her and she will investigate whether it meets criteria. There are plenty of things not on the list that could qualify to be claimed, and to send a label from a product or ask about another food and she will personally do the math for me to figure out if it is something claimable.

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            • CedarCreek
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1600

              #36
              Originally posted by Leigh
              My sponsor told me that the list isn't necessarily the law. She asked if there were something that I would like to claim that isn't on the list to contact her and she will investigate whether it meets criteria. There are plenty of things not on the list that could qualify to be claimed, and to send a label from a product or ask about another food and she will personally do the math for me to figure out if it is something claimable.
              That's awesome!

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              • Angelsj
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 1323

                #37
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                Because the orange juice companies don't have as big of a pull in government as the corn and dairy industries do...

                Just be grateful that McDonald's doesn't get any input. ::


                I agree about the weird guidelines the food program has but I just make do the best I can.

                I don't feel that the majority of a child's nutritious eating/meals should come from me anyways.

                I never expected the schools or my child's daycare to make sure my kids ate healthy. That was MY job as a parent.
                Right?! sigh...
                However, most of their nutrition DOES come from me. They want to walk in my door with chocolate cereal with marshmallows, and on the way out, mom is talking McDonalds...ugh!

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                • Leigh
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3814

                  #38
                  I, too, had always heard that whole milk was best for kids. AAP recommendations are 1% for kids over 2, but whole up until 2 UNLESS the child is at risk of obesity or have a family history of heart disease, high cholesterol, or obesity, then they recommend 2% from 12-24 months, and 1% after.

                  Fat is important to the kids for brain development and vitamin absorption, but most kids are already getting too much fat from other sources, which is apparently the reason that recommendations have changed.

                  As far as protein, I think that the media and fad diets have made us all (including me) think that protein is the answer and carbs are the devil. A 29-pound toddler needs 16 grams of protein per day (only 2 cups of 1% milk provides this). Around only 20% of a toddler's caloric intake should be protein. Most kids get enough protein from dairy alone.

                  I just have to push my own preconceptions (based not on science, but what **I think**, based on media exposure, I suppose), and do the research on healthy eating for toddlers to make decision on what I feed them.

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                  • lizzardb85
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 27

                    #39
                    My rep said only 1% or skim to kids over 2. For the kids that don't like the taste you can add chocolate or strawberry syrup! So trade out the good fats and add strait syrup. It is horrible.

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                    • melilley
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 5155

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Leigh
                      My sponsor told me that the list isn't necessarily the law. She asked if there were something that I would like to claim that isn't on the list to contact her and she will investigate whether it meets criteria. There are plenty of things not on the list that could qualify to be claimed, and to send a label from a product or ask about another food and she will personally do the math for me to figure out if it is something claimable.
                      This is true. And if you use MMK, you can invent a new food and put it in and your sponsor will see it and can decide if it's credible or not. I have done it once in the past and after I entered the food, wahlah...it was on the main list.

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                      • FCCarmyprovider
                        FCC Army Provider
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 63

                        #41
                        So the cakes and other junk food won't make them fat but milk will.. Oh yeah sounds about right...

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                        • KidGrind
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1099

                          #42
                          Originally posted by FCCarmyprovider
                          So the cakes and other junk food won't make them fat but milk will.. Oh yeah sounds about right...

                          LOL! It’s great to see a military provider.

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                          • EntropyControlSpecialist
                            Embracing the chaos.
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 7466

                            #43
                            Originally posted by TwinKristi
                            I don't take it that seriously. Pomegranate is on my list though so not sure why that would vary. I have an option for fruit salad it veggie plate or mixed veggies so if it's not on the list I do that option. We also serve only whole milk here and my FP rep has never asked. Plus, even if it's not on there, as long as it's not a day that your rep is there for an announced visit does it really matter it they have Pomegranate instead of pears?
                            I've got to say I feel the same way...

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                            • Wubby
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 90

                              #44
                              Here you can serve brownies, but not whole milk. How does that work? No meat that is not bought at a store. Once when I had a visit, the kids were picking strawberries, the monitor lady said, " Oh cool, that will count for part of their snack." Before that I was told that all food had to be store bought. I almost think it just depends on the person.

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                              • MrsSteinel'sHouse
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1509

                                #45
                                Originally posted by itlw8
                                to count as a serving of fruit it has to be 1/4 cup and with the seed I would assume it would be 1/2 cup It is unlikely each child would eat or you would prepare a whole pomegranet per child. Yes serve them they are wonderful but as part of a fruit salad or and extra
                                this. But you can add them to pineapple (yum!) and count the pineapple.
                                Milk, yes whole is not recommended after 2. If you have a parent that wants it though, they can have their doctor write a note. Submit the note to the food program. For us, if they visit and I do not have 1% in my frig for those kids all claims back to the beginning of the month are denied. Now, think about it though- you serve 2 meals and a snack. If you don't claim milk on the snack that is only 2 glasses of milk a day that is the lower fat. Their parents can serve them whole, you can serve them whole after their glass and with snack if you still wish to. You will just not be reimbursed for the whole.
                                Is the food program worth it? For me it is. I am able to afford to provide formula,baby food and nutritious meals for my older ones.

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