Sickness Help?

[cara041083]

So I haven't been watching kids and planned to open back up in Jan. I had a few of my parents ask If I would be willing to do part time until I start back full time. I said sure. I figured extra spending money. So DCB comes on Tues for the first time in about 3 months. After nap time, I notice that she feels warm. So I call mom and have her picked up. When dad shows up he explains to me that she has been sick off and on for the past month and thinks shes coming down with a cold. So they take her to the doc and call and tell me that It is just a cold but the doc went ahead and put her on antibiotics. Well Myself, and 3 kids wake up today sicker then dog snot today, and to top it off we are supposed to go on vacation this weekend. Why do parents think this kind of behavior is ok? I just don't get it! So My question is, how would you handle it. Would you term the girl for good? would you confront them? The DCG is a big sweetheart and I hate to loose her in Jan when I go back to full time, but this is not ok

[Leigh]

Do YOU know of any doctors who prescribe antibiotics for "colds"? I don't. They're lying. I term for lying, whether you do is up to you.

[cara041083]

Do YOU know of any doctors who prescribe antibiotics for "colds"? I don't. They're lying. I term for lying, whether you do is up to you.

You are right!

[Blackcat31]

I agree. Colds are viruses.

Antibiotics will do NOTHING for a cold.

Ask the parents to see the written diagnosis for the child.

[TwinKristi]

Well it depends on why she was given abx. If she had a virus and developed an infection that's different. It happens all the time. Kids get a virus that effects their sinuses and it can turn into an infection. The cold virus may not cause an infection in you but may cause pneumonia for another person. It effects everyone differently. I don't know that I would personally term over that, I have kids who appear just fine but are running a fever of 102+. I have kids with no fever or symptoms but just aren't feeling well. I'm sick myself now! Getting sick is just part of the job. Someone wrote about it the other day and over time you build up immunities. I haven't been sick in 2yrs but yesterday I ended up with a nasty cold/cough. I have a big event this weekend that's been planned for a year but i feel awful and don't know if I can go now. It ****s but it's part of the job to me.

[craftymissbeth]

Well it depends on why she was given abx. If she had a virus and developed an infection that's different. It happens all the time. Kids get a virus that effects their sinuses and it can turn into an infection. The cold virus may not cause an infection in you but may cause pneumonia for another person. It effects everyone differently. I don't know that I would personally term over that, I have kids who appear just fine but are running a fever of 102+. I have kids with no fever or symptoms but just aren't feeling well. I'm sick myself now! Getting sick is just part of the job. Someone wrote about it the other day and over time you build up immunities. I haven't been sick in 2yrs but yesterday I ended up with a nasty cold/cough. I have a big event this weekend that's been planned for a year but i feel awful and don't know if I can go now. It ****s but it's part of the job to me.

I see what you're trying to say, but OP's dcp's stated the antibiotics are for a cold. If they were giving the antibiotics to treat something like a sinus infection or pneumonia then that wouldn't be a cold. It'd be for a sinus infection or pneumonia and the dcp's would have needed to tell op that information. No doctor in their right mind is going to prescribe antibiotics for a cold. It's common sense that something else is going on with the dck and the dcp's need to communicate exactly what that is.

I also disagree that getting sick is part of the job. Yes, in this line of work we are much more likely to get sick, but thinking that we should just be ok with that and allow sick kids into care is dangerous.

[cara041083]

Well it depends on why she was given abx. If she had a virus and developed an infection that's different. It happens all the time. Kids get a virus that effects their sinuses and it can turn into an infection. The cold virus may not cause an infection in you but may cause pneumonia for another person. It effects everyone differently. I don't know that I would personally term over that, I have kids who appear just fine but are running a fever of 102+. I have kids with no fever or symptoms but just aren't feeling well. I'm sick myself now! Getting sick is just part of the job. Someone wrote about it the other day and over time you build up immunities. I haven't been sick in 2yrs but yesterday I ended up with a nasty cold/cough. I have a big event this weekend that's been planned for a year but i feel awful and don't know if I can go now. It ****s but it's part of the job to me.

I'm not sure why it was given. I know they don't give it unless there is a need for it. From what the mom told me, The doc said it was just a cold but the ant was for her icky nose "just in case". That's why Im pretty sure the mom is lying. They don't give an ant. for an "just in case".They let it run its course, and then have you come back if it doesn't get better. I get that getting sick is part of the job. I have 3 almost 4 kids myself. I shut down my daycare until Jan because I will be having a baby. The reason I am mad, is because I only agreed to watch her for 1 day to help them out. (mom had some running to do) If they brought her knowing she was sick (for just the 1 day) then that is not ok. She was planning on coming back when I open back up full time in Jan. If they are this dis honest for 1 day, then what are they lying about when I will have her full time. I know they brought her sick because the dad confessed to it when I had them pick her up.

[Cradle2crayons]

I'm not sure why it was given. I know they don't give it unless there is a need for it. From what the mom told me, The doc said it was just a cold but the ant was for her icky nose "just in case". That's why Im pretty sure the mom is lying. They don't give an ant. for an "just in case".They let it run its course, and then have you come back if it doesn't get better. I get that getting sick is part of the job. I have 3 almost 4 kids myself. I shut down my daycare until Jan because I will be having a baby. The reason I am mad, is because I only agreed to watch her for 1 day to help them out. (mom had some running to do) If they brought her knowing she was sick (for just the 1 day) then that is not ok. She was planning on coming back when I open back up full time in Jan. If they are this dis honest for 1 day, then what are they lying about when I will have her full time. I know they brought her sick because the dad confessed to it when I had them pick her up.

When my kids get a cold... After 10 days if they aren't improving (you said dck has been sick off and on for a month ) then their doctor assumes it's a secondary sinus infection etc instead. She says it starts as a virus and then they get a secondary infection. It was originally just a cold. And yes, they get antibiotics.

The mom may simply be saying a "cold" because the child has "cold like" symptoms. My mom calls all sinus infections or coughs a cold even if it's a secondary infection that requires antibiotics.

I would simply ask for the dr paper. Nothing sounds that fishy at all about this.

[Blackcat31]

When my kids get a cold... After 10 days if they aren't improving (you said dck has been sick off and on for a month ) then their doctor assumes it's a secondary sinus infection etc instead. She says it starts as a virus and then they get a secondary infection. It was originally just a cold. And yes, they get antibiotics.

The mom may simply be saying a "cold" because the child has "cold like" symptoms. My mom calls all sinus infections or coughs a cold even if it's a secondary infection that requires antibiotics.

I would simply ask for the dr paper. Nothing sounds that fishy at all about this.

As a parent I would NEVER give my child or take an antibiotic just because the doctor "assumes" it's a secondary infection.

Colds are viruses. Sometimes colds can lead to bacterial infections that do require antibiotics. However, antibiotic resistance is one of the BIGGEST health concerns/issues in the world right now.

We shouldn't be so blasé`about antibiotic use.

If I were this family's provider, I would NOT accept "just in case" as a valid reason for antibiotic use. I would require the doctor to verify that there IS a bacterial infection FIRST.

Either way, this child needs to be excluded from care until back to perfect health.

99% of colds can easily be cured by a little R & R at home. Too much exposure to others, too much activity and environments that are busy and over stimulating do nothing but make what was "no big deal" become a big deal to everyone else.

[Cradle2crayons]

As a parent I would NEVER give my child or take an antibiotic just because the doctor "assumes" it's a secondary infection.

Colds are viruses. Sometimes colds can lead to bacterial infections that do require antibiotics. However, antibiotic resistance is one of the BIGGEST health concerns/issues in the world right now.

We shouldn't be so blasé`about antibiotic use.

If I were this family's provider, I would NOT accept "just in case" as a valid reason for antibiotic use. I would require the doctor to verify that there IS a bacterial infection FIRST.

Either way, this child needs to be excluded from care until back to perfect health.

99% of colds can easily be cured by a little R & R at home. Too much exposure to others, too much activity and environments that are busy and over stimulating do nothing but make what was "no big deal" become a big deal to everyone else.

After 10 days of worsening symptoms instead of improving with my child's history, her pediatrician of 10 years is pretty sure it's a secondary infection from an original virus. And, as a health care professional myself, I have no concerns with my kids care.

As I said in the pp, the op should ask for a dr note for official diagnosis and care. It's not really our business if the child's dr felt he need to put them on antibiotics after a month long illness. It's only our business if the illness itself or the symptoms are excludable.

[cara041083]

I agree I should have asked for the note. I just didn't ask for a doc note because I only had her the 1 day. By the time she was taken to the doc, I wasn't getting her back until the next time the needed me for just the day. I just want to handle the whole situation properly, since she will be starting back up full time in Jan. They know my sickness policy because they do have a contract with me since I have had the DCG since she was a baby. In this particular case, I just feel lied too regarding the whole situation because they wanted the day to themselves. I am taking all of your advise and I plan on having a sit down with the parents to make sure they understand how I feel and why, and then go from there. Thanks ladies!

[Blackcat31]

After 10 days of worsening symptoms instead of improving with my child's history, her pediatrician of 10 years is pretty sure it's a secondary infection from an original virus. And, as a health care professional myself, I have no concerns with my kids care.

As I said in the pp, the op should ask for a dr note for official diagnosis and care. It's not really our business if the child's dr felt he need to put them on antibiotics after a month long illness. It's only our business if the illness itself or the symptoms are excludable.

That is different. Your first post said the doctor "assumes".

This post says the doctor is pretty sure.

Prescribing antibiotics based on an assumption is 100% different than prescribing an antibiotic for something they are sure of.

Also, I feel it is my business and my concern as to why the doctor prescribed something to a DCK. IF I am the child's primary caregiver AFTER the parent...then it IS my business because these things directly effect me and my business.

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[Cradle2crayons]

That is different. Your first post said the doctor "assumes".

This post says the doctor is pretty sure.

Prescribing antibiotics based on an assumption is 100% different than prescribing an antibiotic for something they are sure of.

Also, I feel it is my business and my concern as to why the doctor prescribed something to a DCK. IF I am the child's primary caregiver AFTER the parent...then it IS my business because these things directly effect me and my business.

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That's why you ask for a dr form. Really the first mistake is taking what the parent says as true

[Blackcat31]

That's why you ask for a dr form. Really the first mistake is taking what the parent says as true

yep.

I use doctor forms like passports..... entry into care is ONLY allowed WITH a doctors statement.

[Cradle2crayons]

That's why you ask for a dr form. Really the first mistake is taking what the parent says as true

And yes, her dr assumes. Her dr isn't going to do a sinus swab and wait a week to confirm a bacteria or PROVE anything.

The op is going by what he mom says. Really we have no clue what the dr REALLY SAID.