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  • Margarete
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 290

    #31
    Originally posted by Soccermom
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    I hate to be mean here but it sounds as though DCM is kind of lazy....lack of sleep can cause major issues for kids, especially kids who are predisposed to anxiety Problems or ADHD. Overly tired kids don't sleep well and tend to not nap well either. They also have more nightmares, night terrors and don't sleep as deeply. DCM needs to get on top of this and have this kid evaluated or start trying different techniques of relaxation for him in order to soothe him to sleep at night! He may also be suffering from major anxiety from the divorce, especially since he seems so intent on getting your approval when he does something good like find the right puzzle piece. No matter what, he should be seen by someone!

    In the meantime, here are a few tricks of the trade for the little guy I have -

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    Originally posted by Angelsj
    There are several studies that indicate they go hand in hand. Adhd makes it hard to sleep, and parents are exhausted so they will do just about ANYTHING to get the child to lay down and be quiet for a bit. We all know what that will do, so the behavior escalates, the sleep deprivation gets worse, and the Adhd escalates. Huge vicious circle.
    The study showed if you can stop the sleep issues with quality parenting (adhd style) the child is able to better focus, and feels more secure, so the adhd symptoms die down, etc...
    Didn't mean to step on these posts at all. They both have a lot of good information and thoughts. Trying the techniques are definitely worth a try (if they haven't already), and any doctor will probably go through this list, or similar and want her to try some things a different way.
    I would definitely be interested by what you mean by 'quality parenting (adhd style)'.
    We definitely all agree he needs help. I hope they can figure out soon what's going on with him.

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    • Angelsj
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 1323

      #32
      Originally posted by Margarete
      Didn't mean to step on these posts at all. They both have a lot of good information and thoughts. Trying the techniques are definitely worth a try (if they haven't already), and any doctor will probably go through this list, or similar and want her to try some things a different way.
      I would definitely be interested by what you mean by 'quality parenting (adhd style)'.
      We definitely all agree he needs help. I hope they can figure out soon what's going on with him.
      Not a problem. It is pretty weird for a kid to not sleep at all. If that is what is going on, a med eval is probably not a bad idea.
      However, Adhd kids are different. Most of the techniques that work great for other kids, just don't work for them. And some that do just have to be so incredibly consistent.
      My youngest son will not (cannot) let an inconsistency go, so if we allowed him to stay up 5 mins past his bedtime one night, it will take MONTHS of consistency for him to realize we really mean bedtime. An average kid might take a few days to get that. He will not.
      Some need silence. Not what WE think of as silence to sleep, but real silence. Some can handle some noise, but only a solid, non changing sound.

      And overall, many of them just wear parents down. They are great kids, funny, energetic, smart, but they are tiring, even if they are not misbehaving. Just being in the same room can be wearing. I have a set of parents that are WONDERFUL parents, but even they resort to the "anything to get sleep" method, because their son just wears you out.

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      • daycare
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        • Feb 2011
        • 16259

        #33
        So I had a really long talk with my teacher. She said in her 35 years of doing this she has never seen a child this out of control with them self.

        She gave me a packet to document him over the next 5 days starting next week. She will check back in with me mid-next week to see how things are going.

        I will be talking to DCM to also do the same and then mom will need to go and take him to get evaluated.

        She hugged me and said I don't know how you go through your days with this child, I was only there 2.5 hours and I could not watch it.

        Today when we were playing at circle time I put the child on my lap to share and sign with him a song. His legs and feet were actually shaking the whole time and not kicking, I mean shaking. VERY odd.

        He's such a happy kid, I hope that we get it all sorted out.......

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        • countrymom
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 4874

          #34
          something is going on, but I don't adhd (I hate constantly throwing that term around seems like everyone has it)
          do you think teaching relaxation stuff would work, I'm wondering if he is on such a high (could mom be medicating him with something????) that he can't get down now.

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          • Kaddidle Care
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2090

            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            Also sleep deprivation mimics ADD or ADHD BIG time!
            (Edited - pressed the wrong "quote" first.)

            And so does giftedness.

            #1 - food diary/behavior diary

            His new favorite food may be making him bonkers.

            If her insurance will pay for it, an evaluation sounds like it's in order. I don't think it will hurt.

            Not pro medication at that age but his body has to rest. Again, to me it sounds like a gifted kid who can't shut off his mind or body.

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