OMG - I Can NOT Believe What This Parent Did After Terming Services

[countrymom]

I'm going to highjack the thread, but can you tell me about hooked on phonics-I've heard of it, but where do you buy it and what do you do.

[AnythingsPossible]

I ditto previous posters, that if you chose to continue the 2 week, get payment in advance from the family! I personally would forfeit the 2 week notice and drop them now.

[kidkair]

I would drop these people NOW!!!
Leaving that mess for you is grounds for immediate termination.

Then I'd send something like this:

1. I would write a note saying I do not do a formal evaluation of the children. If they want that, they need to have him tested.
2. Tax info is mailed by January 31st as that is the law.
3. Full name, EIN# (you need this to protect yourself from idiots like this) and all other needed info will be mailed to you in January. See #2
4. I would do this for them FOR A FEE if you have a copier. Make sure you keep a copy. It's just an immunization record.
5. Ask them to please be more specific. They don't know what they are talking about.
6. Add to the note that all forms will be completed by law. You will not be making extra work for yourself.

DITTO! I had a similar situation minus the poop and dropped them that day. I lost money on it but I lost the stress as well. Good Luck!

[sierrastreasures]

Hi everyone, I am so relaxed today because I did not allow the offender's child back in to my childcare today due to health issues. The children and I were so relaxed, today and it proved to be one of the best days I've had in a long time.

Below you will read the text correspondance that was exchanged by the dc parents and myself. Please keep in mind that the things she has accused me of is almost "word for word" of what she accused the last provider before I agreed to care for their child. So with that said ....

I sent a text today to both dcm and dcd stating:

"As you are aware, _____ will not be permitted back into childcare today due to multiple episodes of diarrhea yesterday. I think we all fully know well that dcm knew of his symptoms before showing up at my door late saying he had an “explosion in his pants" before he arrived yesterday. This is a health and safety violation putting my other dck's health at risk. Also by leaving loose watery feces smeared on my daycare floor for me to clean up and disinfect after dkm left was and IS unacceptable and is grounds for immediate termination. Also leaving a dirty pull-up full of odorous diarrhea loosely wrapped I a plastic bag UNDER my kitchen sink instead of disposing of it the trash can located in the bathroom was totally disgusting considering the smell was so over whelming and I had out of town guest coming in immediately after. Please pick up all of _____'s things as well paperwork by close of business on Friday."

DCM sent a text back to me stating:

"Dcd indicated that you agreed to end the contract early which works for me. As previously requested in my termination letter that I provided you yesterday, please provide for Friday

1) The summary statement for filing of all monies paid to you with your tax id number, provider name and number on it.
2) The health inventory form that was submitted to you and
3) Have the food program form ready for out signature to remove him from your program.

We both know that ______ does not have diarrhea that he is afraid to tell you if he has soiled his pants and that you let him sit in soiled pants for an extended period of time causing a big mess. Your behavior is and has been disappointingly unprofessional. Please stop the nasty phone calls and text messages."

I can NOT wait to greet them at my door on Friday handing them over to them only the necessary forms that are required from me as well as my their 5 page "immediate termination letter" as well as the little demon's blankie. I've decided to give them the tax info just to be done with it since I had it handy anyway.

Thank you all for your wonderful advice. I will keep this information close by for moral support knowing I AM a good childcare provider and my other dc parents and children adore me.

[missnikki]

Hi everyone, I am so relaxed today because I did not allow the offender's child back in to my childcare today due to health issues. The children and I were so relaxed, today and it proved to be one of the best days I've had in a long time.

Below you will read the text correspondance that was exchanged by the dc parents and myself. Please keep in mind that the things she has accused me of is almost "word for word" of what she accused the last provider before I agreed to care for their child. So with that said ....

I sent a text today to both dcm and dcd stating:

"As you are aware, _____ will not be permitted back into childcare today due to multiple episodes of diarrhea yesterday. I think we all fully know well that dcm knew of his symptoms before showing up at my door late saying he had an “explosion in his pants" before he arrived yesterday. This is a health and safety violation putting my other dck's health at risk. Also by leaving loose watery feces smeared on my daycare floor for me to clean up and disinfect after dkm left was and IS unacceptable and is grounds for immediate termination. Also leaving a dirty pull-up full of odorous diarrhea loosely wrapped I a plastic bag UNDER my kitchen sink instead of disposing of it the trash can located in the bathroom was totally disgusting considering the smell was so over whelming and I had out of town guest coming in immediately after. Please pick up all of _____'s things as well paperwork by close of business on Friday."

DCM sent a text back to me stating:

"Dcd indicated that you agreed to end the contract early which works for me. As previously requested in my termination letter that I provided you yesterday, please provide for Friday

1) The summary statement for filing of all monies paid to you with your tax id number, provider name and number on it.
2) The health inventory form that was submitted to you and
3) Have the food program form ready for out signature to remove him from your program.

We both know that ______ does not have diarrhea that he is afraid to tell you if he has soiled his pants and that you let him sit in soiled pants for an extended period of time causing a big mess. Your behavior is and has been disappointingly unprofessional. Please stop the nasty phone calls and text messages."

I can NOT wait to greet them at my door on Friday handing them over to them only the necessary forms that are required from me as well as my their 5 page "immediate termination letter" as well as the little demon's blankie. I've decided to give them the tax info just to be done with it since I had it handy anyway.

Thank you all for your wonderful advice. I will keep this information close by for moral support knowing I AM a good childcare provider and my other dc parents and children adore me.

We adore you, too. You ARE a good provider. I would be filtered if I typed what I would like to say to that parent.

[sierrastreasures]

THIS JUST WON'T end between these nut case parents and myself. Can you believe the dcm that left smeared watery feces on my tiled floor for me to clean up had me investigated today?

Of course I was cleared from any accusations and after hearing my side of the story the case worker agreed that these parents were out of line with their accusations. My case worker also agreed that this seems to stem over not allowing their child into childcare with diarrhea the next day.

When will this all end??????

Going to hug all my children now, little do they know it's really because I need one not them

[Blackcat31]

You still win because you no longer have to deal with them!!!!

[My Daycare]

Yes! You win! You passed the inspection and will soon never see these parents again. They have to live with themselves and their ignorant attitude for the rest of their lives and you don't. Since, their last provider had a problem also, they have many problems to come. I hope the kid turns out OK. Good luck!

[momma2girls]

THIS JUST WON'T end between these nut case parents and myself. Can you believe the dcm that left smeared watery feces on my tiled floor for me to clean up had me investigated today?

Of course I was cleared from any accusations and after hearing my side of the story the case worker agreed that these parents were out of line with their accusations. My case worker also agreed that this seems to stem over not allowing their child into childcare with diarrhea the next day.

When will this all end??????

Going to hug all my children now, little do they know it's really because I need one not them

Some parents are really a true work of art, aren't they???? How ridiculous!! I don't put anything past anyone anymore!!!

[laundryduchess@yahoo.com]

I agree!!! I had the mother of a 3 yr old angry that I didnt offer preschool like she wanted, we have a learning curriculum,... not apreschool for 3/4 yr olds. She actually called my referral service to gripe about how I wasnt making sure her daughter would be ready for kinder!!!! termed her..... Good riddance to your hemmoroidal parents!

[juliebug]

i am glad you passed inspection and can just move on. I think it is wounderfull that you just didn't take them back at all. you are a great provider, and handleing this very well!

[sierrastreasures]

I know, I know, I'm better off however I'm sure she's gloating over her conquest while I have to interupt activities I promised my children this morning, I hated this however we will make the best of this afternoon.

At this point I feel like mailing everything back to them. I DO NOT trust them to come to my door without a camera rolling. I wouldn't put it past them to call and say I slandered them at the door.

I had all forms that were required of me placed in the _____'s bag ready for them to pick up. Now remember I gave them a formal immediate termination as of today. Guess what I get a text on my phone while the investigator is here from dcd stating ______ will not be coming today. What is going on with these two nit wits. _______ won't be here? Does dcd and dcm not realize an immediate termination mean IMMEDIATE? What are they pulling?

I would now love to stetch out as far as I can the forms that I'm required to send to them and as far as their tax document and receipt of year end expenses... they're not getting it now until January 31, 2011. They want to play hard ball, well so can I!

[MarinaVanessa]

I would now love to stetch out as far as I can the forms that I'm required to send to them and as far as their tax document and receipt of year end expenses... they're not getting it now until January 31, 2011. They want to play hard ball, well so can I!

:: You and I think alike, this is exactly what I was thinking of telling you to do. I can't believe some parent's sometimes. It's parents like these that make it harder for other cases to get investigated properly because instead of a case worker handling a legit case of abuse/suspicious behavior in a daycare they're wasting their time investigating a perfectly wonderful provider all because of some vindictive batty people .

If they ask about the tax information just tell them that you don't have it yet and that it won't be ready until the end of the year because that's when your tax preparer can get to it ... then spill some coffee on it or something sticky before you mail it. Maybe a relative of yours will get sick with flu and you can have them cough on it ... or have your DC kids pick their boogies and smear some on the paperwork . Or not ... whatever works for you, I know it would make me feel better.

[kidkair]

Might be best just to hand the paper over tomorrow so that you don't have to revisit the stress come January.

[sierrastreasures]

:: Maybe a relative of yours will get sick with flu and you can have them cough on it ... or have your DC kids pick their boogies and smear some on the paperwork . .

OMG that is hallarious!

Ok, this is what I found out. According to daycare regulations here in Maryland, the only information we are to provide to the dcp is our tax info which is name, address, and tax id. tax id is optional however I would not as another person said want red flags going up at the irs. All other forms including immuization records and health records are zilch. We are however required to keep them on file for 1 whole year.

I can not wait to greet this dcm and dcd tomorrow.