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  • daycarediva
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 11698

    When To Call It Quits With This DCB? Long

    I have a 3.5/almost 4yo boy in care. Has been with me since the day after he turned two, so quite a while. He is FT. Up until 3-4 months ago, I had ZERO issues. He was kind, polite, sweet, helpful and just a gem.

    His Mom and step Dad got married 3 months ago and things have gone steadily downhill. His older step brother is dx as ADHD/ODD/bi polar. They share a room and Mom has primary custody. BUT, they were all living together for 3 months prior to the wedding. Living with them and being around step bro is not new.

    He never hit after the initial first few weeks, was never aggressive otherwise. Now he is hitting/attempting to hit 3-4x a day! It happens so fast that I usually don't catch the first time. He gets an immediate TO (starts walking there himself) and then SCREAMS at the top of his lungs-sometimes with tears but usually without for 5-45 minutes. If it's going to be 'one of those days' I have him shadow me all day long. I won't allow the other children to be hit.

    He is VERY defiant. Never was before, great little helper. Clean up time is met with "NO! I HATE YOU!" and he stomps to a corner himself and screams. I always leave the things he was playing with out for him to clean up. Tell him that as soon as he is done, he can clean up and join us. Today, his toys from BEFORE BREAKFAST are still on the playroom floor. He simply chose not to participate ALL DAY LONG because he won't clean up.

    If he isn't first, doesn't get his choice, etc. There WILL be screaming. Today he asked for a red plate. I gave him red and he said NO BLUE. Another child already had blue. Dcb attempted to take his plate and then THREW the red plate full of food and starting kicking the table. He never did eat lunch and just screamed for 40 minutes.

    I have talked to both dcm and dcd and step dad. Dcm is very wishy washy with disciplining him. She gives threats, has no follow through and gives in the second he cries. Step dad says it isn't his problem-it's dcms. Dcd told me point blank he has witnessed the step bro tell step dad to shut the F up and threw things at him. He believes dcb is picking up on that behavior and is going for full custody (which is hush hush until dcm is served court papers). Dcd is former military, and is a parole officer. He is strict (not in a bad way) and encourages dcb to own behavior, be independent, and gain control of himself.

    I have a typed contract up that I want to give to both dcp's that if dcb's behavior is unmanageable I can send him home. I put 2x physical aggression in one day-pick up. Inability to follow routine-pick up (like today, refused to go outside, refused coat, shoes, hat and I had to do it all, then got outside, sat down and threw it all off.)

    They have been excellent clients. I want to help dcb, not term but I don't know how to fix it if everyone is on a different page. Should I ask for a conference with everyone to address it? Then give the notice? Give notice first? WWYD?

    I adore this kid, and it's obvious he is having a REALLY hard time right now. He isn't like this ALL DAY EVERY DAY and some days he is like his old self. I cannot figure out a pattern to the behavior other than M-Tue after MOm's weekend is the worst. M-Tue after Dad's is the best. I have a notebook with dates and documentation and have been open and honest with everyone about it. It's frustrating and exhausting on his bad days!
  • Unregistered

    #2
    That is hard! Mom remarrying is stressful enough and will cause most children to act out. If the new step child really is acting out like the dad says then I'm sure he has also picked up on that. My only advice is to give him more love and attention. If you have to term then do it. I personally wouldn't because everything else in the child's life has changed recently and changing daycares also would be even more difficult for him. Poor kiddo and poor you!

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    • coolconfidentme
      Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 1541

      #3
      Yes, it is a hard one, but everyone needs to be on the same page. My policy sends a kid home for bad behavior & they cannot return for 24 hours. (either 5 timeouts in a day or 1 aggressive behavior. ie; biting, hitting etc.) After so many times, they need to find care elsewhere. This really puts a reality check on the parents & forces them to address the issue or be terminated. No guess work, they can do the math on it.

      In the meantime let him know you love care for him, but will not put up with bad behavior. He needs consistency somewhere. Be that somewhere for him.

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      • Sunshine75
        Daycare.com Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 109

        #4
        My suggestion as well would be to do a conference with all three of them without even bringing a notice of any kind in to it. Actually, I would not include the stepdad as he says it's moms problem, which I think is also an issue. That probably means all discipline is up to Mom so he may not be getting consequences from stepfather if he acts up when mom is not around. But you could at least talk to mom and dad and explain you really want this transition to go better for him so what can WE do to help him.

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        • butterfly
          Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 1627

          #5
          Originally posted by Sunshine75
          My suggestion as well would be to do a conference with all three of them without even bringing a notice of any kind in to it. Actually, I would not include the stepdad as he says it's moms problem, which I think is also an issue. That probably means all discipline is up to Mom so he may not be getting consequences from stepfather if he acts up when mom is not around. But you could at least talk to mom and dad and explain you really want this transition to go better for him so what can WE do to help him.


          I'd leave out the notice also. Have a conference with all involved in parenting this child. I'd try to get step dad there too, but all these people together could cause some unnecessary drama and finger pointing that I wouldn't care to have in my house. However, if things went down this way then I'd see this would be a situation that the parental figures aren't interested in resolving and I'd term.

          After the meeting you could give them a notice, but I feel like my contract (probably yours too) gives us some outs in situations like this. If I gave an addtional notice type letter to the parents, it would just offend them and they'd probably be gone - or make my job more miserable.

          If we could come up with a plan together, I'd type that up and have us all sign it though.

          But :hug: to you for dealing with it all!!

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          • blandino
            Daycare.com member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1613

            #6
            It sounds like you are doing everything right. I would sit down with All 3 adults together, and explain the severity of the situation and were you are with it. Come up with a plan for at home and daycare (I would probably write down everything you are currently doing as my "plan". And tell them exactly what you said here. You love having them as clients and don't want to terminate, but you also can't go on as you are currently. Hopefully that will help them realize they have got to get it together with his discipline.

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            • countrymom
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 4874

              #7
              i hope dad gets full custody before things get even worse. I don't know what to tell you, but it seems like the older brother may be the problem, he may be influencing the younger one.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #8
                Originally posted by countrymom
                i hope dad gets full custody before things get even worse. I don't know what to tell you, but it seems like the older brother may be the problem, he may be influencing the younger one.
                It wouldn't matter to me if the older brother was the worst kid on the planet.... still doesn't excuse the DCB of his actions.

                I am not directing this at you personally countrymom, I just hate when one kid (with his own issues) has to be the blame for what others do. I am all about SELF-responsibility at ALL ages.

                As far as DCD trying to get full custody...well I highly doubt the issue of this poor little guy adjusting to all these changes is going to be a valid reason for mom to lose custody.

                Maybe instead of trying to take from each other, the parents (of this child) need to start giving each other some support and help.

                Blended families are tough. It makes me sad to hear step-DCD say the boy is mom's problem. Bet that makes the poor little dude feel really wanted....

                ALL 3 parents need to be working towards what's in the best interest of the DCB not toward their own personal agendas.

                I think YOU (DCDiva) are his only stable and consistent place and being so means he is testing the waters to see if you are going to change things up too.

                I agree with unreg and think this little guy just needs a big dose of reassurance, lots of hugs and regular discipline for his outbursts. I would try set up some activities and games you can play that will help him deal with his feelings and emotions SOME of which he has no idea what they are even, let alone what to do with them.

                That is one of this biggest reasons kids start being aggressive, tantrum-y and physical. Around this age, they are bombarded with a whole bunch of new emotions that are way different than the normal happy, sad, mad ones they are accustom to. Now it's shame, humiliation, anxiety, worry, guilt etc...things they have NO idea how to manage.

                This little guy is acting normal in a sense but due to the extenuating circumstances going on in his home life, it is just coming out as 100x worse than it should be.

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                • Sunshine75
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 109

                  #9


                  The above link shows faces with emotions on them. It really helped our son sort through his feelings when he was going through a rough patch. Maybe you could do a daily check in with him when he arrives in the morning so you know how his day started off. It also will allow you to open up some positive dialog with him...."why do you feel frustrated, sad, worried, happy, etc..today?"

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