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  • newtodaycare22
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 673

    #16
    Originally posted by kendallina
    is his behavior at home? Certainly she sees what you're seeing??
    Of course not....he's a perfect angel at home:confused: Yea, OK I really believe that one. Denial!

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    • BentleysBands
      *DAYCARE PROVIDER*
      • Oct 2010
      • 448

      #17
      Originally posted by newtodaycare22
      He is 3...but I think something is off with him. He avoids eye contact I honestly don't think he understands everything he is being told. Some of the behaviors he is choosing...others-I'm not so sure.

      I cannot put a 3 year old in a pack in play-only up to age 2. And with the physicality of what he was doing...he would literally have knocked it over. He was SPRINTING across the room. I already had that convo with Mom yesterday, in front of him-and today it was worse.

      I know I asked for opinions...just wanted to make sure you know I was COMPLETELY jumping to termination Did I mention it's his 3rd daycare this year
      sometimes a child just needs the proper direction and stability of a provider. moving from one to another sounds like no one is working w/him and hes being passed around as a 'bad child" ....been there! tho i usually keep my kids who need the extra attention. just who i am....
      but w/o moms help then it sounds like SHE may be the root of the problems and he is acting out.

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      • kendallina
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 1660

        #18
        Originally posted by newtodaycare22
        Of course not....he's a perfect angel at home:confused: Yea, OK I really believe that one. Denial!
        Wow. Yup, have heard that one before...

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        • kendallina
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1660

          #19
          Random question, but, do you think his hearing is okay??

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          • newtodaycare22
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 673

            #20
            Originally posted by kendallina
            Random question, but, do you think his hearing is okay??
            I think so. He looks when he hears something but doesn't make eye contact or laughs even when it's serious.

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            • newtodaycare22
              Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 673

              #21
              Well, both parents brought him today. They were apologetic and say they completely understand my position. I hope things change today and tomorrow...

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              • PAMommy1228
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 41

                #22
                I have a kid like this that is almost 100% like you explained, except he is just 2 years old. I have to literally sit in the playroom during nap time, and wait for him to sleep otherwise he will run around the room. Then he only sleeps for like a 1/2 hour, so I speedly clean my home, thes bad as she thought. But he isn't bad, he just doesn't listen. It's so weird because I know he hears me. I am constantly following him around to make sure he isn't climbing on something, or doing something he shouldn't.

                I've found that over exaggerating good behavior has been working. Like making a big deal of him listening to me. But nap time is my only hard day. He is also getting evaluated by Birth to 3 since he is 2, but acts younger than my 19 month daughter. (of course we are not comparing, but he doesn't follow simple direction, only says buh buh buh bye, or choo choo, and a few other things)

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                • mrs.meg
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 130

                  #23
                  The boy that is giving me trouble is almost 3. I find that I have to be very FIRM with him. He only responds to a very low loud tone. I do not yell, but more of a mean mommy voice. He does not listen ANY other way. I have to nip the behavior in the bud immediately with an ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! I am very matter of fact and to the point. There is an immediate consequence, no warnings, unless it is something new, which I think he has already tried everything here. I know this may sound harsh, but he had his warnings the first few weeks. Now he knows better. My back hurt the first few weeks because I would immediately remove him and sit him down and he is VERY heavy. I get on his level and explain very clearly what I expect. He is getting better, but it is a serious learning process. He had NO structure at his former providers, no nap time, nothing. I will just not tolerate anything less than a child that knows how to act. Sometimes I think I still may terminate him, but I am going to give my boot camp a few more weeks!!!

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                  • newtodaycare22
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 673

                    #24
                    Well that's the end of that

                    Typed the official letter:

                    October 14, 2010

                    To the Parents of ****,

                    As a follow up to yesterday‘s letter, here is an update of *** behavior today. Unfortunately, there was no improvement and he continued to be disruptive and disrespectful. I observed the following behaviors during nap time:

                    -jumping around, rolling, and flipping near the other children
                    -throwing his pillow in the air and hit another (resting) child in the head with it
                    -running into the piano
                    -smacking the television screen with his hands
                    -throwing his nap mat in the air
                    -wrapping the nap mat around himself
                    -running out of the room
                    -laughing while being yelled at
                    -pulling on curtains and blinds
                    -flipping over a chair when I turned around for a second
                    -having an accident in his pants and laughing about it (after being allowed to use the bathroom 2 times before nap)

                    It is simply not fair to the other children to deal with this type of behavior during their rest time. Therefore, because he has been unable to conduct himself in an appropriate manner, tomorrow, Friday, October 15th, will be ***s last day at ****.

                    Thank you for your support and understanding that I must do what is best for everyone in my care. I wish you the best of luck in finding a location that is a good fit for ***.

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                    • kendallina
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1660

                      #25
                      Originally posted by newtodaycare22
                      Typed the official letter:

                      October 14, 2010

                      To the Parents of ****,

                      As a follow up to yesterday‘s letter, here is an update of *** behavior today. Unfortunately, there was no improvement and he continued to be disruptive and disrespectful. I observed the following behaviors during nap time:

                      -jumping around, rolling, and flipping near the other children
                      -throwing his pillow in the air and hit another (resting) child in the head with it
                      -running into the piano
                      -smacking the television screen with his hands
                      -throwing his nap mat in the air
                      -wrapping the nap mat around himself
                      -running out of the room
                      -laughing while being yelled at
                      -pulling on curtains and blinds
                      -flipping over a chair when I turned around for a second
                      -having an accident in his pants and laughing about it (after being allowed to use the bathroom 2 times before nap)

                      It is simply not fair to the other children to deal with this type of behavior during their rest time. Therefore, because he has been unable to conduct himself in an appropriate manner, tomorrow, Friday, October 15th, will be ***s last day at ****.

                      Thank you for your support and understanding that I must do what is best for everyone in my care. I wish you the best of luck in finding a location that is a good fit for ***.
                      If you are going to be this specific about his behavior, I would not say, "...while being yelled at."

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                      • momofsix
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1846

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kendallina
                        If you are going to be this specific about his behavior, I would not say, "...while being yelled at."
                        EXACTLY what I was going to say-doesn't look too good for you

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                        • laundryduchess@yahoo.com
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 616

                          #27
                          I would replace yelled at with while being corrected,.. and other than that =-) BINGO!!!!

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                          • Live and Learn
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 956

                            #28
                            I don't think that I would be specific at all.
                            Maybe something like "behavior that is not appropriate for my daycare...."
                            whatever the exact wording is in your contract. If you need to be specific do it verbally. I know how you feel believe me....fed up with the whole ding dong situation but to be completely honest their is a tone to the long list which is probably going to come across sounding too harsh. In conclusion, I would be short vague and to the point in writing...no long list. Please don't take this the wrong way.....sounds like it has been quite the week

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                            • WImom
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1639

                              #29
                              Originally posted by kendallina
                              If you are going to be this specific about his behavior, I would not say, "...while being yelled at."
                              I was going to say the same thing. I'd take the 'yelled at' part out. I like the 'corrected' wording.

                              Good Luck, I hope the parents will get him tested.

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                              • newtodaycare22
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 673

                                #30
                                Thanks everyone I changed "being yelled at" to "corrected". Obviously I was angry while writing it::

                                I wanted to be specific so the parents see exactly what is happening. I told them verbally as well but I wanted to be sure not to forget anything.

                                Thanks for the advice. Mom was very gracious and understanding..so at least that's good.

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