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  • blandino
    Daycare.com member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1613

    Need Wording Help For PT Discussion

    Okay, so I already posted about this in the venting forum, but could use some help.

    One of my favorite DCMs, DCM of a 2.5 yo DCB has been trying to potty train with little success. I have told her that most of our kids PT from 2.5-3, so he is at the very early end of the range. But she thinks that because he understands what to do, that he is ready. He just needs to get all the steps together, and that will take time. He just isn't there yet, but she thinks that because he understands what to do, that he can be PT. I have tried telling her that is the frustrating part, that they can KNOW what to do and still not be PT.

    Yesterday they had his 2.5 yo checkup, and she asked the Dr. about PT. The doctor just talked to DCB a little bit about it. DCD said they are going to make a stronger effort at home - letting him go bottomless. I think that's a great idea, for at home - it really helps with awareness.

    She drops him off this morning and says "okay, tell Ms. B when you have to go potty", when I ask how he is doing at home she says "horribly". Ummm what ? Then why on earth are we telling him to go here. He made a total game of it, told me once - I had to stop circle time to take him (because he is in a diaper), and he sat for 2 seconds and told me he was done. He isn't ready for training pants, and I can't stop every time he wants to go to the bathroom to accompany him and take off his diaper. Plus, honestly, I feel like it's nonsense at this point. He isn't ready, and needs to be more ready before we work on it at daycare.

    All of this is totally against our policies, and I know DCM knows them. Going to have to talk to her tonight, and say that he needs to be successful at home before we do anything here. We have group PT weeks, where parents do the 2/3 day method over the weekend, and we continue it here. I really believe in the 2/3 day method, and have had real success with these "PT weeks".

    However, parents don't have to use these weeks. If they want to use their own method of PT, I ask that their child needs to be 2 weeks dry at home, and then they can continue on with their success here. Similar to a lot of your policies. Well the last PT week, was last week - DCB didn't participate.

    She is one of my favorite DCMs, and I want to be nice. But I also want to make it clear, that until he is being successful at home, I shouldn't be expected to mess with it here while I am trying to juggle multiple kids and preschool.

    Ideas on how to word this...

    DCM, I know you and DCD said you were going to make a more concentrated effort at PT at home. But we have learned that a child needs to be successful at home before we begin PT at daycare. DCB really needs to be ready to use the toilet full-time before we begin having him PT at daycare. So if you are choosing to pass on using the "potty weeks", then once he is showing success at home, and is dry for at least 2 weeks, then he can continue on with wearing training pants and using the potty here.
  • Michael
    Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
    • Aug 2007
    • 7951

    #2
    A couple more threads on Parent/Teach Conference: https://www.daycare.com/forum/tags.p...her+conference

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    • cheerfuldom
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7413

      #3
      Does it have to be addressed at all at this point? It sounds like this DCM is aware of your potty training policies and you are aware of what is and is not happening at home. I would just continue to offer pottying opportunities and follow your policy but if that means that you cant accommodate training with a child in diapers that is not showing all the readiness skills, I would just keep diapering him and leave it at that. This is all assuming that you have clearly expresses your exact policies as well as exactly what you need in order to support training at daycare.

      For me, I dont go by the parents saying that a child is doing well at home because that could mean anything.

      I require that a child be able to verbalize "I have to go potty", be able to get off and on the potty independently, wipe and redress independently, wash hands on their own. Parents are to provide pull ups (I dont train a diapered child, its a pain) until child has gone two weeks without an accident at daycare. I then require a pull up for nap time only until child is accident free for two weeks.

      If the parent was potty training at home and the child fit all my readiness skills, I would be more than happy to help support training. I will give it one full week but if I am not seeing any progress, I will let parents know that I believe this child is not ready and I will be taking a break to avoid pressure or stress in the process which would just further hinder Jr's progress. I suggest but not tell the parents what to do at home. But I will let them know that we will take a break AT daycare for a few weeks and try again in the future provided that Jr is not showing resistance or lack of progress.

      If you feel like you like need to address it, I would go with the approach of "here is what i need from you and from Jr. in order to continue supporting potty training at daycare " instead of "here is everything that is annoying me and everything that is going wrong"....I am sure you see the difference

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      • Familycare71
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 1716

        #4
        Originally posted by cheerfuldom
        Does it have to be addressed at all at this point? It sounds like this DCM is aware of your potty training policies and you are aware of what is and is not happening at home. I would just continue to offer pottying opportunities and follow your policy but if that means that you cant accommodate training with a child in diapers that is not showing all the readiness skills, I would just keep diapering him and leave it at that. This is all assuming that you have clearly expresses your exact policies as well as exactly what you need in order to support training at daycare.

        For me, I dont go by the parents saying that a child is doing well at home because that could mean anything.

        I require that a child be able to verbalize "I have to go potty", be able to get off and on the potty independently, wipe and redress independently, wash hands on their own. Parents are to provide pull ups (I dont train a diapered child, its a pain) until child has gone two weeks without an accident at daycare. I then require a pull up for nap time only until child is accident free for two weeks.

        If the parent was potty training at home and the child fit all my readiness skills, I would be more than happy to help support training. I will give it one full week but if I am not seeing any progress, I will let parents know that I believe this child is not ready and I will be taking a break to avoid pressure or stress in the process which would just further hinder Jr's progress. I suggest but not tell the parents what to do at home. But I will let them know that we will take a break AT daycare for a few weeks and try again in the future provided that Jr is not showing resistance or lack of progress.

        If you feel like you like need to address it, I would go with the approach of "here is what i need from you and from Jr. in order to continue supporting potty training at daycare " instead of "here is everything that is annoying me and everything that is going wrong"....I am sure you see the difference

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