Think Accident Happened As Said?

[MamaBear]

Ouch! That looks bad. She may have fallen and not put her hands out to break the fall - making it worse and not leaving scrapes on her hands. But I dont know. I'd just save the pic, document, cover your butt and thats all you can probably do for now.

[Cat Herder]

That's what I thought it looked like also.

I'd bet we've all done it to someone at some point.

I hit my dogs nose yesterday pretty hard as she pushed open the door while I was using the restroom. It is kneejerk to slam it shut. ::::::

Gma may have been embarrassed and was a little afraid it would look purposeful.

[Cat Herder]

I could see it being a door knob too, but doors move. .

Exactly.

Slamming it would give the force required for such a deep soft tissue injury.

[lovemylife]

Exactly.

Slamming it would give the force required for such a deep soft tissue injury.

Just read your post., That makes sense. I am probably over reacting a tad.

[Margarete]

Those stories are similar enough to not be concerned about that aspect: Different person, 3rd person, less/ more/ different information. Putting them together Gmom opened the door for her daughter, and child pushed on the screen door that was missing a screen and she fell through onto the brick patio.

[mrsnj]

Heidi- Not jumping. Just kinda on alert. Just doesn't look to fit the accident. Thats why I am asking.

Ok thanks guys for the thoughts. Will keep an eye out.

[Unregistered]

There is no way falling on brick could cause that pattern.
It had to have been something circular.
It looks to be a door knob injury. I would ask more questions and if this is not the first time I may call DHS. Let them know you are taking this serious.

[Heidi]

Heidi- Not jumping. Just kinda on alert. Just doesn't look to fit the accident. Thats why I am asking.

Ok thanks guys for the thoughts. Will keep an eye out.

[SilverSabre25]

Looks more like a doorknob to me...slammed as she tried to enter.

Bedroom or bathroom since the turn lock is not present.

I was also thinking doorknob. Is her head doorknob height by any chance?

(I do NOT think that looks like a fall on brick unless it's really weird brick.)

Is she verbal at all? If so you could ask her what happened. My son can relate stories kind of one word at a time but he remembers big injuries. He might put his hand to his head and say "Ow" "I know, you hit your head. What hit your head?" and might point and say "Doooooor" for example.

[Play Care]

YES! That is exactly what it reminds me of! I am gonna check!

Playcare- really? I have had kids fall on cement and tile. Didn't look like that and I got knots. Never had one fall on brick. Why I am asking

Heidi- see thats the thing. The child is always coming with marks on her. She fell into the coffee table. She tripped over a toy. She jumped off the sofa. Etc. I don't think the parents really watch her well honestly. I have kinda been like "hummm' when she comes in with another bruise but nothing has looked like that. The Gmom already isn't sitting well with me (if you read my other post) so nothing would surprise me.

So just document.

I am going to mention to mom at pick up though about it seems odd no scratches, etc. Kinda let her know I know something if off.

Like another poster I have some blonde, fair skinned kids who get large bumps and knots when they get a head bonk. Even when it seems as though they hardly hit their heads. So yeah, for my group, it wouldn't necessarily send a red flag for me.

[MotherNature]

Looks more like a doorknob to me...slammed as she tried to enter.

Bedroom or bathroom since the turn lock is not present.

Tjhis is exactly what I thought. Brick/concrete would leave a scrape. I bonked my son w/ the door & it looked similar.

[Blackcat31]

Like another poster I have some blonde, fair skinned kids who get large bumps and knots when they get a head bonk. Even when it seems as though they hardly hit their heads. So yeah, for my group, it wouldn't necessarily send a red flag for me.

I agree. My own DS was a walker at 6 months so he had TONS of head and facial bumps/bruises....if you didn't know, you would seriously think he was abused.

Once he fell against our stereo speaker and got a HUGE goose egg on his forehead...It was VERY similar to the picture in this thread. For whatever reason head/facial injuries seem to appear 20x worse than they actually are.

I guess as far as reporting goes, I'd document NO MATTER WHAT but only the provider really knows the family and the child as well as whether or not she (OP) thinks it is or could be abuse....

[sharlan]

Blondies do show bruises easier. My grandsom often looks like he's been beaten after we've been to Disneyland and he rode the roller coasters. He ends up with huge bruises on his back, hips, shins, and backs of his thighs.

You've documented the injury, notified Mom. I would keep an eye on the child for more injuries, though. I think someone already mentioned, but stand her near a door. It's possible that she was near the door and somebody slammed it open, hitting her in the head.

[Lyss]

I've had this same exact situation happen with my DD, except she was right in front of me so I saw it happen. One of those slow motion moments when I tried to intervene as I saw it happening but was inches out of reach She took a spill out the back door and onto the bricks of gma's patio, head first (its an awkward/steep step down) and ended up with a huge goose egg that turned into a perfect circle bruise. I will say that hers was a bit different in the coloring of the bruising, it was a darker bruise in the center and then lighter bruise around the edge of the circle. The patio is all brick but each brick is oddly smooth, DD must have hit right on one vs were two connect which I think would have made a lot more scratches.

[mrsnj]

Too short for the knob. She is little and doesn't reach with her forehead.
I didn't have time to check the can before dad showed. Will see tomorrow. That bruise isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

The convo started exactly like this....
" Mom mom had work done on her teeth and 'A' hit me in the chin." (walk up to the top front door step) "She hit her head this morning and got a bonk" "The other day I sent in............" (subject change) I take DCG and brush back her hair as Gmom is telling me about something else and see the bruise and said, "OMG what happened? She got that from hitting your chin!?" "No. She fell out the screen door....."

Just the whole convo told me she wasn't going to tell me. The brushing it off. The changing of the subject. But you can't hide THAT!