Yelled At On Our Walk

[blandino]

frustrating for sure, and he shouldn't have yelled at you especially in front of the kids....BUT...... for liability and insurance reasons, you can't go onto a golf course without being a paying member, I totally respect that. He'd be screwed if anything happened to you or the kids while on HIS property . Part of membership fee pays for insurance and that kinda stuff.

Sorry that happened, but your friend was wrong in saying you could use the space. Is there a park or soccer field near by maybe?

Actually, the previous owners didn't have a problem with it, and that's who/when the friend asked. So at the time she asked, it was perfectly okay. The club changed hands last August and that is when the new owner/manager appeared - we just hadn't been there since then - and the new managers havig a problem with it never crossed my mind.

I totally respect/understand not allowing it, really I do. I just think it could have been handled a lot better, especially since I tried examining that we had asked permission (even if it was from the previous owner) and I wasn't argumentative in the least. As soon as he asked, I was perfectly compliant. I was just horrified by him yelling at me.

And today, come to find out after talking with a client - this man was NOT the owner. The owner wasn't even there yesterday, so it was a manager of some sorts. Who is within his rights to tell me to leave, but he did lie.

[Emsdayhome]

ugh!! how very frustrating!

[williams2008]

I think the upsetting part was not that the OP couldn't/shouldn't walk there, it was the way the owner spoke to her. She had been told by an employee that it would be okay. The owner (who should be nice to people since he should be interested in drumming up business, not scaring it away) could have informed her far more politely that it was dangerous and that she did not in fact have permission to be there.

[Jack Sprat]

That stinks!!! Mean people ****!!:hug:

Line the kids up and teach them to scream "FORE" next time he out on his golf cart. Of course stay off the property while doing so!!! And of course, I am kidding!!!!

[LK5kids]

Boo to him & his jerky manner: :hug:To U

[My3cents]

Yes, you all hit nail on the head. I am totally more upset about his reaction rather than not ring allowed to walk on the property.

I totally get the liability factor, but If you could see the area of the golf course I am talking about, it really isn't even remotely close to any of the holes, or where members even go. It is more of a path way to the actual course. I would say the danger is really no more than had we been walking on our street and a golf ball came flying through. But I totally respect his right to decide who is on the grounds, but his manner was so out of place.

depends on who is golfing...... If it was me I would probably hit someone. I stink at it. I was driving out some balls and they were going everywhere. All I can do is laugh at myself because I am that horrible at it.

I think sometimes we are taken back by other peoples reactions because our intent is good and some people just stink at the delivery of what they have to say.

hugs to ya-

[MarinaVanessa]

I guess this is how I see it (from the perspective of the owner)

You are the owner of some property.
The property is how you earn your livelihood.
You go out and suddenly one day you see what seems to be trespassers on your property.
The trespassers could potentially ruin a part of your property and you are upset.
You approach the trespassers and ask them to leave.
You find out that the trespassers have in fact not paid to be able to use your property.
You then find out that one of your employees has given the trespassers permission to use YOUR property without getting YOUR permission first.
... I guess I could see where the owner is coming from.

The reality is that even though your friend told you that you could go there it has been a while since you have and you never actually had permission from the owner himself so in fact you did not have permission. It is what it is. Does it **** that you got yelled at? Sure. Was the owner in the right? I believe so.

I know I'd be pissed off to find strangers on my property without my permission. Golf courses especially are stringent in their rules. People pay to use the course and you were there for free. Had you been a member the owner might have toned it down a bit because you would then be paying good money and he wouldn't want to lose your business but I doubt that he'd be okay with children on the course anyway. Children pick at things, they pick flowers, dig holes, throw sticks, trample plants etc etc etc. Not to mention the liability.

I wouldn't have taken it personally. I would have just apologized after having explained the situation and apologized again afterwards because I would have unintentional been in the wrong.

[TwinKristi]

I just see the liability on this as too much to risk. Sure he was rude but I think I would be rude if someone was having a picnic on my front lawn. Why are you on my property without my permission? Add to it the risk of a child getting hurt and I can see why he would be mad. One of the kids bends down and picks up a chunk of grass, that costs money to repair and if you were a member your fees would cover that but you're not. That's like using a gated community pool with your daycare kids because a friend lives there. Your friend doesn't have the authority to say you can and there's a risk on someone else's behalf in going there. If someone came there and yelled at you, sure it would be rude, but only in reaction to trespassing and the liability risk they're seeing.

[Michael]

The guys was rude. Obviously worried about liability. He has issues.

FYI: G.O.L.F. stands for Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden

He was not a Gentlemen