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  • sally
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2013
    • 267

    Is This Legal?

    One of my daycare families is I'm guessing trying to save money by having their 5 almost 6 year old ride the bus home instead of coming here. On most days one of the parents gets to the house within minutes of her getting off the bus but on early out days she will carry a house key and be alone for at least 2 hours. It may be going well now but what about during the winter? We are in Iowa and we have very cold icy snowy winters. Is that legal for one so young to stay home alone? They don't even have a home phone for her to call 911 if there is an emergency plus their neighbors are not home until way late so she can't even run next door in an emergency. I watch the younger brother and the parents have to come by for him anyways so I don't understand why she doesn't come to a safe home where someone is always here.
  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #2
    I think I would make an anonymous call to CPS. That is not a safe situation at all.

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    • Cat Herder
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 13744

      #3
      Each state varies. I think it is 13 in my current State for latchkey kids. Check your local ordinances, too.

      I was latchkey in kindergarten (until we moved) ... so know it can work with good neighbors. I grew up in South Blue Hair Central and got away with NOTHING...

      The key is having access to an adult quickly, IMHO.
      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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      • sally
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2013
        • 267

        #4
        Originally posted by sharlan
        I think I would make an anonymous call to CPS. That is not a safe situation at all.
        I thought about that. She is a very immature little girl plus she has had some major medical issues. She had aplastic anemia and had to have a bone marrow transplant. About 6 months ago while in my care she had a stroke and she isn't the same kid she was before that. I worry about her being home alone.

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        • coolconfidentme
          Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 1541

          #5
          I was a latchkey kid, but would never dream of letting a child be one today. It's a different, scarier world we live in now.

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #6
            Originally posted by sally
            I thought about that. She is a very immature little girl plus she has had some major medical issues. She had aplastic anemia and had to have a bone marrow transplant. About 6 months ago while in my care she had a stroke and she isn't the same kid she was before that. I worry about her being home alone.
            Sad situation. I'd be scared for her, too..

            Prepare yourself that it is possible CPS will not intervene, though.

            Parents simply are not held to the same standards as childcare providers.
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • TheGoodLife
              Home Daycare Provider
              • Feb 2012
              • 1372

              #7
              Originally posted by sally
              One of my daycare families is I'm guessing trying to save money by having their 5 almost 6 year old ride the bus home instead of coming here. On most days one of the parents gets to the house within minutes of her getting off the bus but on early out days she will carry a house key and be alone for at least 2 hours. It may be going well now but what about during the winter? We are in Iowa and we have very cold icy snowy winters. Is that legal for one so young to stay home alone? They don't even have a home phone for her to call 911 if there is an emergency plus their neighbors are not home until way late so she can't even run next door in an emergency. I watch the younger brother and the parents have to come by for him anyways so I don't understand why she doesn't come to a safe home where someone is always here.
              Could you call the school, if you don't want to cal CPS yourself? You could still be anonymous, and say that you've seen the child alone at home and felt concerned. Then the school could deal with CPS, if you do not wish to be the one to make the call. If they do not call CPS (I'm sure your DCM would let it be known if they were called) then I would DEFINITELY call yourself- that sounds so unsafe and you'd hate to be indirectly responsible if something DID happen and you knew you should have called Losing a family is better than having to live with the regret if something bad did happen.
              I can't believe parents that put these situations in our hands

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              • butterfly
                Daycare.com Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1627

                #8
                Originally posted by Mama2Bella
                Could you call the school, if you don't want to cal CPS yourself? You could still be anonymous, and say that you've seen the child alone at home and felt concerned. Then the school could deal with CPS, if you do not wish to be the one to make the call. If they do not call CPS (I'm sure your DCM would let it be known if they were called) then I would DEFINITELY call yourself- that sounds so unsafe and you'd hate to be indirectly responsible if something DID happen and you knew you should have called Losing a family is better than having to live with the regret if something bad did happen.
                I can't believe parents that put these situations in our hands
                As a daycare provider, YOU are a mandated reporter. I wouldn't pass this on to the school. I would call to report. CPS may or may not do anything about it, but atleast you could live in good conscience that you did what you could.

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                • JoseyJo
                  Group DCP in Kansas
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 964

                  #9
                  Originally posted by butterfly
                  As a daycare provider, YOU are a mandated reporter.
                  My thoughts too- it is part of our JOB to report any possible unsafe issue to CPS. It can come back on you if someone else calls and they find out you knew and said nothing...
                  Last edited by Blackcat31; 08-23-2013, 09:45 AM.

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                  • nanglgrl
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1700

                    #10
                    In Iowa we don't have a certain age that children have to be before being left home alone. That said I would still call DHS so they can make sure it's a safe arrangement.

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                    • MyAngels
                      Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 4217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sally
                      One of my daycare families is I'm guessing trying to save money by having their 5 almost 6 year old ride the bus home instead of coming here. On most days one of the parents gets to the house within minutes of her getting off the bus but on early out days she will carry a house key and be alone for at least 2 hours. It may be going well now but what about during the winter? We are in Iowa and we have very cold icy snowy winters. Is that legal for one so young to stay home alone? They don't even have a home phone for her to call 911 if there is an emergency plus their neighbors are not home until way late so she can't even run next door in an emergency. I watch the younger brother and the parents have to come by for him anyways so I don't understand why she doesn't come to a safe home where someone is always here.
                      Have you spoken to the parents about your concerns? I think in this case I would be very point blank about the very dangerous situation they are putting their child in. If that didn't do any good, I'd be on the phone to both CPS and the school in a heartbeat. I can't imagine any circumstance where I would leave my medically vulnerable 5 year old alone with no way to reach anyone.

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                      • sally
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 267

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MyAngels
                        Have you spoken to the parents about your concerns? I think in this case I would be very point blank about the very dangerous situation they are putting their child in. If that didn't do any good, I'd be on the phone to both CPS and the school in a heartbeat. I can't imagine any circumstance where I would leave my medically vulnerable 5 year old alone with no way to reach anyone.
                        I did talk to the parents about it when they decided she wouldn't come here after school. They think she'll be fine and told her over and over that she's brave and she can stay home alone. I will be calling our dhs and see what or if they'll do anything.

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                        • Jack Sprat
                          New Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 882

                          #13
                          In KS as long as a child is responsible (who determines this??) then they can stay alone. I had no idea! I would call the school and CPS. I agree they may not do anything but, you have done your part.

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                          • MotherNature
                            Matilda Jane Addict
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1120

                            #14
                            That's crazy! I was a latchkey kid 30-some years ago, starting at age 6 or so, but I knew about stove safety and important phone numbers, etc. To not leave a medically fragile child with any way to get a hold of help...i.e. a phone is not responsible parenting imo.

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                            • craftymissbeth
                              Legally Unlicensed
                              • May 2012
                              • 2385

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lil Monkey
                              In KS as long as a child is responsible (who determines this??) then they can stay alone. I had no idea! I would call the school and CPS. I agree they may not do anything but, you have done your part.
                              Oh my!

                              I always thought KS law was 12 but apparently that's just a guideline

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