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  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    Really - What Are These People Thinking

    A La Crescenta day-care facility was shut down and its director was arrested Wednesday after a 2-year-old girl being supervising there was hospitalized for being under the influence of marijuana, police said.


    The home had no electricity, covered in rat feces????? Eight families tried to drop off!
  • Meeko
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 4349

    #2
    Originally posted by sharlan
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...tory?track=rss

    The home had no electricity, covered in rat feces????? Eight families tried to drop off!
    Eight parents who obviously couldn't care less.

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    • Lyss
      Chaos Coordinator :)
      • Apr 2012
      • 1429

      #3
      Originally posted by sharlan
      http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...tory?track=rss

      The home had no electricity, covered in rat feces????? Eight families tried to drop off!
      Wow! That's terrible! definitely 8 parents that didn't care.

      Makes me realize that parents really are using those people I see advertising ridiculous ads on CL, like with super low rates and have really large numbers or sit the kid in front of the tv all day

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      • daycarediva
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 11698

        #4
        How could daycare parents not KNOW this? This comment is something I agree with. It's NEGLIGENT to leave your child somewhere unsafe. No power? rat droppings? My daycare parents come in everyday to a LIT, clean room.

        WI_Proud_American at 8:00 AM August 15, 2013
        If this daycare center was really that bad.....shouldn't all the parents be brought up on charges for endangering their children???

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        • sharlan
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2011
          • 6067

          #5
          Sorry my granddaughter hit post before I finished my thoughts.

          In no way am I excusing the provider, she definitely needs to be charged. But, what about the parents?????

          I think the parents need to be brought up on neglect charges, too. They had to have know of the deplorable conditions that their kids were in all day. The only thing I can think of is the provider (and I use that term loosely) didn't allow the parents in the house. She must have done all drop offs and pick ups at the front door.


          We ended up with custody of my dh's niece after she ingested brownies laced with marijuana. She was just two and was in foster care for 3 years. My in-laws had her for 6 mos before we got her away from them and had her another 2 1/2 yrs.

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          • JenNJ
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1212

            #6
            Every adult should be brought up on endangerment and neglect charges. All the parents responsible for drop offs and pick ups and the provider and any adults living in her home. Its disgusting.

            I get embarrassed when I have a laundry basket of dirty laundry waiting to go to the basement or a sink full of dishes from the kids. I cannot imagine not noticing rat poop and no power in the place I leave my child for 40+ hours per week.

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            • coolconfidentme
              Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 1541

              #7
              I have a DCM here & I showed her. She asked who would take there child to that lady? Not be judgy, but very true...

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              • Starburst
                Provider in Training
                • Jan 2013
                • 1522

                #8
                Originally posted by sharlan
                Sorry my granddaughter hit post before I finished my thoughts.

                In no way am I excusing the provider, she definitely needs to be charged. But, what about the parents?????

                I think the parents need to be brought up on neglect charges, too. They had to have know of the deplorable conditions that their kids were in all day. The only thing I can think of is the provider (and I use that term loosely) didn't allow the parents in the house. She must have done all drop offs and pick ups at the front door.


                We ended up with custody of my dh's niece after she ingested brownies laced with marijuana. She was just two and was in foster care for 3 years. My in-laws had her for 6 mos before we got her away from them and had her another 2 1/2 yrs.


                The parents need to have some responsibility here. You think they would notice that the lights aren't on, since having running water and electricity/heat is a requirement to stay open. Or that they would notice if the house looks dirty; its not like they can't go in and see the daycare rooms {open door policy}. Plus, this is like the 3rd (like Pleasantville, Morgan Hill) poor-quality daycare/provider reported in the news from CA this year. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to limit the amount of daycares or higher the requirements (which in all honesty I think they should- to an extent).

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                • Hunni Bee
                  False Sense Of Authority
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2397

                  #9
                  I agree...the parents should be charged.

                  But as I've posted a few times before, this kind if behavior from parents is not isolated. At my old job, we transported kids to and from. In this area, that's the norm.

                  We'd have parents call DSS, get our info, enroll their kid over the phone and have the van pick their kid up, sight unseen. They'd send birth certificate, shot records, etc in the child's bag. Why this was allowed is beyond me. There was no protocol for much anything.

                  These people would literally send their infants and young children to a place they'd never seen, with people they'd never met. On the odd occasion they had to pick their kid up, we'd have to direct them over the phone they had no idea where we were located.

                  Other parents we literally wouldn't see for months...the kid would just ride the van. We could have had this kids in a cornfield all day and the parents would have had no idea.

                  These parents today are either totally careless of their kids, blindly trusting of strangers or both. Its sad.

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                  • Meeko
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4349

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hunni Bee
                    I agree...the parents should be charged.

                    But as I've posted a few times before, this kind if behavior from parents is not isolated. At my old job, we transported kids to and from. In this area, that's the norm.

                    We'd have parents call DSS, get our info, enroll their kid over the phone and have the van pick their kid up, sight unseen. They'd send birth certificate, shot records, etc in the child's bag. Why this was allowed is beyond me. There was no protocol for much anything.

                    These people would literally send their infants and young children to a place they'd never seen, with people they'd never met. On the odd occasion they had to pick their kid up, we'd have to direct them over the phone they had no idea where we were located.

                    Other parents we literally wouldn't see for months...the kid would just ride the van. We could have had this kids in a cornfield all day and the parents would have had no idea.

                    These parents today are either totally careless of their kids, blindly trusting of strangers or both. Its sad.
                    That's awful!

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                    • cheerfuldom
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7413

                      #11
                      I am sorry to say this does not surprise met at all. I have one aquaintance right now that is currently sending her kids to a daycare when she knows the provider is under investigation for child neglect thru the state. She knows this provider lets the kids play in the backyard unattended and that there is an uncovered pool that is accessible to children (including toddlers). Her first priority is cost and this woman takes the kids at just under two for the price of one, compared to what I charge. She KNOWS all this is going on and that this provider was told to no longer take any kids till the investigation is done but its all about money.

                      I have many daycare parents that rarely ever come into my home or check on anything after that first interview. They dont ask questions, they trust way too much.

                      I have had short interviews, the shortest being 13 minutes, and then the parent drops the kid off and thats it.

                      Its very scary. They are lucky to have someone trustworthy like me but I could see how they and their kids would be taken advantage of.

                      In 6 years, I have never had a parent insist on a background check or driving record. They never ask to see anything even when I offer it. These are top notch parents too, one is a school principal!

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                      • daycarediva
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 11698

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                        I am sorry to say this does not surprise met at all. I have one aquaintance right now that is currently sending her kids to a daycare when she knows the provider is under investigation for child neglect thru the state. She knows this provider lets the kids play in the backyard unattended and that there is an uncovered pool that is accessible to children (including toddlers). Her first priority is cost and this woman takes the kids at just under two for the price of one, compared to what I charge. She KNOWS all this is going on and that this provider was told to no longer take any kids till the investigation is done but its all about money.

                        I have many daycare parents that rarely ever come into my home or check on anything after that first interview. They dont ask questions, they trust way too much.

                        I have had short interviews, the shortest being 13 minutes, and then the parent drops the kid off and thats it.

                        Its very scary. They are lucky to have someone trustworthy like me but I could see how they and their kids would be taken advantage of.

                        In 6 years, I have never had a parent insist on a background check or driving record. They never ask to see anything even when I offer it. These are top notch parents too, one is a school principal!
                        HOLY CRAP! My daycare parents all walk in AT LEAST 1x/week. My first client dh called 'nosey' (would come in, take shoes off and walk through the house to the back door when we were outside and show up at random times) I said to my dh, um, I HAVE HER KID, what would you do if she had yours?

                        I provide my clients with a copy of my (clean) driving record and background checks as well as references. I once had a client ask me for my credit score (LOL!) and I did give them a whited out copy (they really don't need to know my VS cc balance. ::

                        I have only had a handful of clients who seem less than cautious about the care their children receive, the rest have been VERY careful, multiple interviews, dropping in, calling my references. One recent client even called my registrar and asked her if she would leave her child with me (my registrar said yes, as I am her backup provider!)

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                        • Unregistered

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sharlan
                          Sorry my granddaughter hit post before I finished my thoughts.

                          In no way am I excusing the provider, she definitely needs to be charged. But, what about the parents?????

                          I think the parents need to be brought up on neglect charges, too. They had to have know of the deplorable conditions that their kids were in all day. The only thing I can think of is the provider (and I use that term loosely) didn't allow the parents in the house. She must have done all drop offs and pick ups at the front door.


                          We ended up with custody of my dh's niece after she ingested brownies laced with marijuana. She was just two and was in foster care for 3 years. My in-laws had her for 6 mos before we got her away from them and had her another 2 1/2 yrs.

                          I AGREE ON HAVING PARENTS BE BROUGHT UP ON NEGLECT! In my state, that can actually happen so long as the state suspects (and later, can prove) that the parent did not do their due diligence in keeping their child safe. SO the DCP could get charged with something as well as the parents in this case as posted above.


                          Just a little side story:

                          I had an acquaintance (She is NOT nor has NEVER been a friend, but she was a former daycare client who was a friend of a friend) who wanted to run a childcare. She ****ed at parenting, so no way could she pull this off. DHS was involved with her child rearing issues, especially regarding her son's malnutrition; her abusive boyfriends after boyfriends after...well you get it. She was jailed several times for drunk driving, drugs and lewd behavior while drunk and for other 'unknown' reasons that had to do with the military. She got KICKED OUT of the Army.....She tried to get a daycare license. She failed. So then she was going to post a CL ad and try to get kids but wanted some "advice". SOOO....she has our mutual friend contact me.

                          My friend calls me and says "H wants to do child care, can you tell me the legal stuff about being unlicensed?" I laughed and laughed and said "H is not in any way QUALIFIED nor is she SAFE enough to open any kind of child care, whether licensed or not!" My friend said "She needs money" I said "Listen, I wouldn't leave my goldfish with that woman and keep in mind any parent who is insane enough to trust this person is legally responsible here if something happens to the child an they have failed to take the proper precautions to ensure their child's safety. I would tell you to tell H NOT to even attempt to take any children." Oh and this same girl (H) also wanted to apply to be a surrogate mother! Thankfully she was never approved with any doctor or psychologist!

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                          • Crystal
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4002

                            #14
                            If the parents were aware, they should bear some responsibility, BUT, how many times, just on this forum alone, have we heard that providers do not allow parents past the front door? Many, many providers on this forum don't allow it. If that were the case, then it is quite likely the parents had no idea of the deplorable conditions.

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                            • canadiancare
                              Daycare Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 552

                              #15
                              There is a Canadian provider who had a toddler die in her backyard pool. She was not his caregiver but she was hosting other day cares. It is all over the news that she was negligent and visiting, not watching the kids etc. she is still open and people still go to her.

                              Cognitive dissonance if I admit that she isn't a great caregiver, then I am a bad parent for choosing her.

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