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  • Heidi
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 7121

    Those Of You Who've Had Infants With Reflux

    Doc thinks that "silent" reflux (no puking) might be dcb's problem. I had a thread the other day about it. So, he's put him on Zantac generic 2x a day.

    If you've had a kiddo of your own, or a dck with reflux, what was your experience?

    This little guy has a really, really hard time sleeping on his back. Carseat, 5 seconds and he's zonked out. Bouncer, same thing. Our state reg. says back, in crib, only. HOWEVER, they will give an exemption for babies with a doctor's note. Doctors here WILL sign one, if the baby has a medical reason.

    IF I let him sleep in his car seat, I would keep him next to me at all times. I understand the risks, and so does dcm.

    Since most of you can't allow this with a dck, what about your own? Does it help?

    It would be a very temporary measure, until the meds kick in (if they do), and he would then be transitioned to his pnp. It's ok to elevate that, but I really can't elevate it enough for him without him sliding....

    Please...no debate about car seat sleeping. This would be a last resort and only under the guidance of a physician, and it would be temporary.
  • Play Care
    Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 6642

    #2
    Originally posted by Heidi
    Doc thinks that "silent" reflux (no puking) might be dcb's problem. I had a thread the other day about it. So, he's put him on Zantac generic 2x a day.

    If you've had a kiddo of your own, or a dck with reflux, what was your experience?

    This little guy has a really, really hard time sleeping on his back. Carseat, 5 seconds and he's zonked out. Bouncer, same thing. Our state reg. says back, in crib, only. HOWEVER, they will give an exemption for babies with a doctor's note. Doctors here WILL sign one, if the baby has a medical reason.

    IF I let him sleep in his car seat, I would keep him next to me at all times. I understand the risks, and so does dcm.

    Since most of you can't allow this with a dck, what about your own? Does it help?

    It would be a very temporary measure, until the meds kick in (if they do), and he would then be transitioned to his pnp. It's ok to elevate that, but I really can't elevate it enough for him without him sliding....

    Please...no debate about car seat sleeping. This would be a last resort and only under the guidance of a physician, and it would be temporary.
    I actually did this with a dc boy. I had him sleep in his car seat with a doctors note and a waiver from the parents and a call to licensing so they were aware. I was a basket case the whole time but it was the only way the poor guy would sleep
    I've also said that I don't know if I would do it again...

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    • Lyss
      Chaos Coordinator :)
      • Apr 2012
      • 1429

      #3
      DD had severe silent reflux too it was terrible.

      The only thing that finally worked for us when it came to sleep was elevating one end of her bed (I put books under one side to raise it), it literally made things so much better for us! She finally slept longer than 20 minute short bursts that ended in screaming. she slid a bit but it made all the difference! DD hated our carseat and the swing/bouncer so I was never able get her to sleep in it.

      The Dr also recommended making sure she sat upright for 30 mins after eating

      She also had to take Zantac 2x a day

      ETA: I did use a thicker crib mattress pad, the heavy waterproof type, because it seemed to offer a bit more "resistance" against sliding down verse just the regular thin cotton sheet. I used it in the pnp play too for her.

      Honestly after dealing with DD's reflux, if it works and you can get a waiver I'd do it. We really struggled with DD's silent reflux and if the carseat had helped I would have done it (cautiously obviously) in a heartbeat
      Last edited by Lyss; 08-14-2013, 01:04 PM. Reason: added

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      • Cradle2crayons
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 3642

        #4
        YES YES YES propping up helps a LOT. I used a boppy pillow in the bed because my kiddo would just slide down. The boppy provides the perfect propped up angle... And you can use it in a pack and play or bed etc.

        As far as the car seat is concerned... Yes it helped tons.. Anything propped up worked.

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        • Familycare71
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1716

          #5
          Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
          YES YES YES propping up helps a LOT. I used a boppy pillow in the bed because my kiddo would just slide down. The boppy provides the perfect propped up angle... And you can use it in a pack and play or bed etc.

          As far as the car seat is concerned... Yes it helped tons.. Anything propped up worked.


          I think if you've ever had bad reflux you would do it- it hurts!! I would def do it and provide closer supervision-
          And I did do it for my own kids but it wasn't a big deal then- but yes- I would do it again

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          • Heidi
            Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 7121

            #6
            So...did the Zantac work quickly or take a while?

            There was a little question about frequency. RX says 2x a day "as needed". Pharmacist explained that as when baby gets grouchy, administer up to 2x a day. My understanding, it's 2x a day for a while, every day, not to wait until the crankin' starts. Since he pretty much cranks non-stop, mom would be giving it to him until it started working, and then stop? Then use again when he needs it? That sounds crazy to me. Plus, I won't administer it, and a 2x a day dose is perfect for mom. Once in the am, once in the pm. "As needed" means it has to be schlepped back and forth, documented, etc.

            I told mom my thinking, but encouraged her to call the doctor to clarify. I really think he needs to be on it for a few weeks, and then should be weaned off down the road. She agrees with my line of thinking. Again, I encouraged her to check with her doc to be sure.

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            • Play Care
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 6642

              #7
              With my guy I really noticed a difference almost immediately. I could also tell when mom forgot or when she decided to try to wean him from the meds I didn't need to do it here at all. It seemed to work the whole day.

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              • Cradle2crayons
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 3642

                #8
                Originally posted by Heidi
                So...did the Zantac work quickly or take a while?

                There was a little question about frequency. RX says 2x a day "as needed". Pharmacist explained that as when baby gets grouchy, administer up to 2x a day. My understanding, it's 2x a day for a while, every day, not to wait until the crankin' starts. Since he pretty much cranks non-stop, mom would be giving it to him until it started working, and then stop? Then use again when he needs it? That sounds crazy to me. Plus, I won't administer it, and a 2x a day dose is perfect for mom. Once in the am, once in the pm. "As needed" means it has to be schlepped back and forth, documented, etc.

                I told mom my thinking, but encouraged her to call the doctor to clarify. I really think he needs to be on it for a few weeks, and then should be weaned off down the road. She agrees with my line of thinking. Again, I encouraged her to check with her doc to be sure.
                It's two times a day, every day. Until the doctor says to stop. Zantac isn't meant to be as needed or PRN. My daughter started on it twice a day and then was sent to a specialist who changed it to four times a day. It finally started working when she switched to four times a day. My son, he was only on it twice a day.

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                • Lyss
                  Chaos Coordinator :)
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1429

                  #9
                  For DD it took a bit to kick in.

                  We never gave it as needed. DD got it 2x a day, we had to adjust the dose when she gained weight because from what I understand its very weight sensitive.

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                  • dbslas
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 62

                    #10
                    We used the carseat and the baby was next to us all day until we were able to transition to pnp.

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                    • Heidi
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 7121

                      #11
                      So, is this another sign?

                      Fast asleep, then waking up and screaming bloody murder. Inconsolable until bottle is offered (he last ate just shy of 2 hours ago). Drinks 1 oz., fall asleep.

                      Seems like if he has burning pain, the formula would soothe that so he can go back to sleep?

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                      • Familycare71
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1716

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Heidi
                        So, is this another sign?

                        Fast asleep, then waking up and screaming bloody murder. Inconsolable until bottle is offered (he last ate just shy of 2 hours ago). Drinks 1 oz., fall asleep.

                        Seems like if he has burning pain, the formula would soothe that so he can go back to sleep?
                        In my experience - yes...

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                        • Cradle2crayons
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3642

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heidi
                          So, is this another sign?

                          Fast asleep, then waking up and screaming bloody murder. Inconsolable until bottle is offered (he last ate just shy of 2 hours ago). Drinks 1 oz., fall asleep.

                          Seems like if he has burning pain, the formula would soothe that so he can go back to sleep?
                          YESSSSSSSSSS another huge sign!!!!!

                          The poor baby is being eaten alive from the inside.... Poor precious little boy... I've felt his pain..and 24/7 comforted two of my own through this pain... It's horrible....

                          Uncontrolled reflux also causes asthma and chronic lung damage....

                          A lot of parents have no idea the damage it can do.

                          This little guy is so lucky to have you advocating for him :hug:

                          Has mom checked with the pediatrician to see if its okay to add rice cereal to his bottles?? That HUGELY helped my daughter and son... And I mean HUGELY. It helps the formula stay down. Makes it heavier.

                          Also of note, the Zantac helps the symptoms by reducing the acid content in the stomach. It doesn't stop the formula from coming back up though. So what does come up doesn't burn as much. It's still recommended they are propped up for at least thirty minutes after eating even when they aren't symptomatic anymore.

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                          • Crazy8
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2769

                            #14
                            my own DD had horrible reflux, even zantac didn't help much. We had to go to a heavier med - which was later taken off the market due to all its side effects. It was a miracle drug for her!

                            My dr. told me it was fine to have her sleep in the car seat and it helped a lot. This was about 14 years ago and I had never heard of it being bad back then. I think all the warnings came out within the last 8-10 years. The wedge under the crib mattress did nothing for her. A boppy pillow worked for her too, you just have to always be in sight to make sure they don't slip off it. I probably would be too afraid to do it for a daycare kid, but I did it for my own daughter.

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                            • Heidi
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7121

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                              YESSSSSSSSSS another huge sign!!!!!

                              The poor baby is being eaten alive from the inside.... Poor precious little boy... I've felt his pain..and 24/7 comforted two of my own through this pain... It's horrible....

                              Uncontrolled reflux also causes asthma and chronic lung damage....

                              A lot of parents have no idea the damage it can do.

                              This little guy is so lucky to have you advocating for him :hug:

                              Has mom checked with the pediatrician to see if its okay to add rice cereal to his bottles?? That HUGELY helped my daughter and son... And I mean HUGELY. It helps the formula stay down. Makes it heavier.

                              Also of note, the Zantac helps the symptoms by reducing the acid content in the stomach. It doesn't stop the formula from coming back up though. So what does come up doesn't burn as much. It's still recommended they are propped up for at least thirty minutes after eating even when they aren't symptomatic anymore.
                              silent reflux...no spitting. good because I have a crazy spitter-upper w/o pain too...ewww

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