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  • UtahMomma
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 58

    Irritated at DCM

    I received my license last week and sent out a notice yesterday to parents about the policies and procedures and pointed out a few specific ones on the letter such as no toys from home are to be brought to daycare and wearing appropriate clothing and shoes (which should be an issue, but it has been)

    I've had one DCM for a few months (I could have 4 DCK unlicensed) who is a bit difficult to work with and very different from other parents (LONG story). She has shown up to daycare with her 3 yo DCB without shoes!! The weather here is 110+ that will melt your feet off. Now she has been bringing him the last two days with his 6 yo brother's flip flops on and they are huge. He can barely walk in them. They also showed up today with a bunch of toys from home

    We were supposed to go to the Utah 24th of July parade and activities at the park. We are not going because DCB has enormous shoes on. I text her about them and that we would not be able to participate in the activities for the day and she replied "He loves the flip flops. He will be fine"

    In her letter specifically I put that clothes and shoes must fit :: and no toys from home and they show up with both
  • Cradle2crayons
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 3642

    #2
    Originally posted by UtahMomma
    I received my license last week and sent out a notice yesterday to parents about the policies and procedures and pointed out a few specific ones on the letter such as no toys from home are to be brought to daycare and wearing appropriate clothing and shoes (which should be an issue, but it has been)

    I've had one DCM for a few months (I could have 4 DCK unlicensed) who is a bit difficult to work with and very different from other parents (LONG story). She has shown up to daycare with her 3 yo DCB without shoes!! The weather here is 110+ that will melt your feet off. Now she has been bringing him the last two days with his 6 yo brother's flip flops on and they are huge. He can barely walk in them. They also showed up today with a bunch of toys from home

    We were supposed to go to the Utah 24th of July parade and activities at the park. We are not going because DCB has enormous shoes on. I text her about them and that we would not be able to participate in the activities for the day and she replied "He loves the flip flops. He will be fine"

    In her letter specifically I put that clothes and shoes must fit :: and no toys from home and they show up with both
    But remember, when yu accepted the child into care at the door, yu basically gave mom permission to break your policies.

    I'd have refused them at the door. I'd have told mom you had plans and the policies state that the child has to come in appropriate shoes and ready to participate. It's not fair ores have to miss out because the mom was allowed to break the rules.

    Call her for pickup and take the rest to the parade

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    • BumbleBee
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 2380

      #3
      There's always one isn't there? I have a dcm who is similar to this. I've got her "trained" now for the most part. Sending her home to get dcb's shoes when she forgot them - with dcb so she would come back - made her late for work...but she hasn't forgotten his shoes again.

      A wise person (BC maybe?) Told me if I don't enforce my policies, there's no use having them as they're not worth the paper they're printed on. I'm willing to bet dcm does these things bc she can.

      I'm sure others will chime in w/more/better advice.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        Originally posted by UtahMomma
        I received my license last week and sent out a notice yesterday to parents about the policies and procedures and pointed out a few specific ones on the letter such as no toys from home are to be brought to daycare and wearing appropriate clothing and shoes (which should be an issue, but it has been)

        I've had one DCM for a few months (I could have 4 DCK unlicensed) who is a bit difficult to work with and very different from other parents (LONG story). She has shown up to daycare with her 3 yo DCB without shoes!! The weather here is 110+ that will melt your feet off. Now she has been bringing him the last two days with his 6 yo brother's flip flops on and they are huge. He can barely walk in them. They also showed up today with a bunch of toys from home

        We were supposed to go to the Utah 24th of July parade and activities at the park. We are not going because DCB has enormous shoes on. I text her about them and that we would not be able to participate in the activities for the day and she replied "He loves the flip flops. He will be fine"

        In her letter specifically I put that clothes and shoes must fit :: and no toys from home and they show up with both
        It doesn't matter if he loves or hates flip flops.... She is blatantly disregarding your rules/policies. I would absolutely call her and tell her she ahs two choices...she either comes and picks up DCB right now or brings him appropriate footwear so that the other children (who's parents respect and follow your policies) can go to the parade. NO way would I allow one parent's failure to respect your policies effect the other kids.

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        • TheGoodLife
          Home Daycare Provider
          • Feb 2012
          • 1372

          #5
          Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
          But remember, when yu accepted the child into care at the door, yu basically gave mom permission to break your policies.

          I'd have refused them at the door. I'd have told mom you had plans and the policies state that the child has to come in appropriate shoes and ready to participate. It's not fair ores have to miss out because the mom was allowed to break the rules.

          Call her for pickup and take the rest to the parade
          This is EXACTLY what I was going to say- not sure if you can swing it since you've already accepted him, but I'd try to have her PU or bring shoes before the parade. If she refuses there's nothing else you can do BUT I'd tell her he must wear non-flip flops or bring an extra pair of shoes to stay there if she wants to have him in flip flops, but they must be his (meaning ones that fit him) and must stay. Then you'll always have that spare to put him in.

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #6
            Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
            But remember, when yu accepted the child into care at the door, yu basically gave mom permission to break your policies.

            I'd have refused them at the door. I'd have told mom you had plans and the policies state that the child has to come in appropriate shoes and ready to participate. It's not fair ores have to miss out because the mom was allowed to break the rules.

            Call her for pickup and take the rest to the parade
            I agree. I would let her know that I am not taking the privilege away from the other children so she can either bring appropriate shoes or pick him up immediately. If she refuses, start calling her alternate pick ups.

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            • momofboys
              Advanced Daycare Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 2560

              #7
              Originally posted by Crystal
              I agree. I would let her know that I am not taking the privilege away from the other children so she can either bring appropriate shoes or pick him up immediately. If she refuses, start calling her alternate pick ups.

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              • UtahMomma
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 58

                #8
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                It doesn't matter if he loves or hates flip flops.... She is blatantly disregarding your rules/policies. I would absolutely call her and tell her she ahs two choices...she either comes and picks up DCB right now or brings him appropriate footwear so that the other children (who's parents respect and follow your policies) can go to the parade. NO way would I allow one parent's failure to respect your policies effect the other kids.
                I had my sub come over to sit with him while she brings him different shoes. It's not fair for the others to miss out. I'm just shocked that it hasn't even been 24 hours since I sent the notice home with them and already she doesn't care.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by UtahMomma
                  I had my sub come over to sit with him while she brings him different shoes. It's not fair for the others to miss out. I'm just shocked that it hasn't even been 24 hours since I sent the notice home with them and already she doesn't care.
                  Good job! Enforce your policies.

                  Don't ever let a parent's failure to abide by your policies become your issue.

                  Sorry about the disrespect you are getting from this parent but honestly, after you do this job for awhile NOTHING will ever surprise or shock you....

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                  • BABYLUVER21

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Crystal
                    I agree. I would let her know that I am not taking the privilege away from the other children so she can either bring appropriate shoes or pick him up immediately. If she refuses, start calling her alternate pick ups.
                    Agree!!! Sounds like you have some time to contact her back.

                    "Mrs Daycare person, I appreciate your child liking flip-flops, but flip-flops, especially ones that don't fit, are not allowed in child care. So that the other kids are not having to miss out because your child has come with the wrong shoes for our activity, I am asking you to either bring me some appropriate-fitting shoes OR to pick up your child for the day NO LATER THAN (time). Please let me know by (time) what you prefer to do. Thanks"

                    When she hems and haws about it and refuses to bring you shoes "OK so I see you've chosen to pick up the child. Please be here by (time). If I don't see you by that time, I will be calling your alternates. Thanks"

                    Then when she comes and gets the child or her alternate does and she bitches you out tomorrow you can say "Please refer to our contract on appropriate attire"

                    That should shut her up. Also, FTR, in my state, flip-flop shoes are not allowed in daycare/school settings. Parents even in Jr High schools here have to pick up kids or bring alternate CLOSE-TOED shoes if their child is not wearing appropriate footwear. Flip Flops are not considered "shoes" here and they are not safe.

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                    • nannyde
                      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 7320

                      #11
                      Parents can't give you permission to do the wrong thing. Once you accepted him into care it's your responsibility to make sure he has proper foot wear for whatever surface you are going to expose him to. The mom doesn't get to say words and take away your responsibility.

                      When she dropped him off the surface he went on was your flooring. She can send him in shoes that don't fit and still be within reasonable parental care.

                      It's when YOU take him to another surface that his needs change. That's the issue. If he were harmed in any way because of improper foot wear it would be your fault completely because you allowed him on a surface he didn't have safe footwear for.

                      This is why I provide all the footwear for my kids. I have enough issue with the parents bringing them from my driveway into the house without proper shoes... I don't need to deal with the parents choice of shoes for when they are on my watch.
                      http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                      • daycaremum
                        New Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 116

                        #12
                        Nannyde??? You provide ALL footwear for your daycare children??? You must have a plethora of runners, sandals, rubber boots and winter boots in every size. Where do you store all these extra shoes?

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                        • Familycare71
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1716

                          #13
                          Originally posted by daycaremum
                          Nannyde??? You provide ALL footwear for your daycare children??? You must have a plethora of runners, sandals, rubber boots and winter boots in every size. Where do you store all these extra shoes?
                          If I read correctly she also provides all outdoor clothing too- like hats, mittens, coats, snow suites, etc... I don't know where she stores it all tho! Lol

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                          • Cradle2crayons
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 3642

                            #14
                            I have no problems in general with my parents and shoes and clothes. But every time I get a new family, I have to teach them a small lesson related to both

                            They get the point quickly.

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                            • Blackcat31
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 36124

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Christie71
                              If I read correctly she also provides all outdoor clothing too- like hats, mittens, coats, snow suites, etc... I don't know where she stores it all tho! Lol
                              It's probably all on e-bay now as she is no longer operating...

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