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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    Thrush

    Anyone know of any alternative methods (besides antibiotics) for treating thrush?

    I have a newbie here who has it and mom is not wanting to do antibiotics (due to child's young age) so I was curious if there were any alternatives that may be effective/helpful.
  • Willow
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • May 2012
    • 2683

    #2
    Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.

    Works phenomenally well.

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    • EntropyControlSpecialist
      Embracing the chaos.
      • Mar 2012
      • 7466

      #3
      Originally posted by Willow
      Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.

      Works phenomenally well.

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      • SilverSabre25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 7585

        #4
        mom and baby both need treated and I third the gentian violet vote
        Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #5
          Mom said she talked to her pharmacist and they are no longer stocking it or recommending it.

          She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.

          Mom is treating both her and baby.

          Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #6
            Thrush is painful for baby (it is a candida yeast infection of the mouth), but can be soothed with Clove flavored sugar sticks (the soft kind that melt on contact, crush a bit between your fingers, swab over gums, works for teething as well), natural anesthetic.

            It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • Willow
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • May 2012
              • 2683

              #7
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              Mom said she talked to her pharmacist and they are no longer stocking it or recommending it.

              She has been treating with plain yogurt (??). Don't know if that really helps or not.... it does seem to be getting better but not really going away though.

              Mom is treating both her and baby.

              Does anyone know if it is painful for baby?
              I know when my kids had it while nursing it made my nipples feel like itchy fire so I would assume a baby's mouth would feel similar discomfort.

              I'dtell her to go to a different pharmacy or buy it off the internet. It's been used for many generations and most people you ask will swear by it

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              • Familycare71
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1716

                #8
                I would ask why pharmacist no longer stock it before putting it in an infants mouth...
                I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cat Herder
                  Thrush is painful for baby (it is a candida yeast infection of the mouth), but can be soothed with Clove flavored sugar sticks (the soft kind that melt on contact, crush a bit between your fingers, swab over gums, works for teething as well), natural anesthetic.

                  It will cycle out in 2-3 weeks, tops, naturally. Yogurt can help, although the anti-fungal mouth swabs (RX) make it go faster, IMHO.
                  Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.

                  Originally posted by Willow
                  I know when my kids had it while nursing it made my nipples feel like itchy fire so I would assume a baby's mouth would feel similar discomfort.

                  I'dtell her to go to a different pharmacy or buy it off the internet. It's been used for many generations and most people you ask will swear by it
                  Originally posted by Christie71
                  I would ask why pharmacist no longer stock it before putting it in an infants mouth...
                  I'm all for whole/natural alternatives but IMO it isn't nice to let a baby go through suffering for it...
                  I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.

                  I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...

                  It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!

                  Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.

                  Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.

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                  • Cradle2crayons
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3642

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.





                    I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.

                    I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...

                    It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!

                    Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.

                    Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
                    Does mom realize that the anti fungal swabs and the Genetion violet are NOT ANTI BIOTICS??

                    They are topical and aren't systemic like anti BIOTICS.

                    Both are safe, and work great.

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                    • Angelsj
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1323

                      #11
                      You can use a good quality probiotic in capsule form (open it), mixed with a tiny amount of yogurt (plain). Spread it on nipples when beginning feeding, and again after feeding. Leave on until dry.
                      Before next feeding rinse nipples gently and reapply.

                      ETA It CAN be painful, but it is not always painful, for mom or baby.

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                      • Familycare71
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1716

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31
                        Thank you! I will pass this info onto mom.





                        I will ask mom to ask pharmacist for more details....it would be good info to have for future reference.

                        I have only had one DCK/DCM have thrush before and she used the gentian violet remedy so I KNOW it works but when this particular mom mentioned not using it, I figured I would ask the wise ladies of the forum for alternatives...

                        It started last week and didn't seem to be a real big issue but by the time baby went home on Friday, the tongue was COVERED!

                        Mom did the yogurt treatment over the weekend and this morning the whiteness seemed to be a lot less but then over lunch time whenever I tried to feed, the baby screamed so I assumed it was/is painful considering the behavior.

                        Thanks for the advice/suggestions ladies...I will keep you posted.
                        Please keep us posted- always good to know this kind of stuff. I LOVE this forum for all of the advice and info so easily exchanged!!

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                        • LK5kids
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1222

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Willow
                          Although no longer popular for various reasons, my vote always goes to gentian violet.

                          Works phenomenally well.
                          Agree....when NOTHING else worked, this did! Also, it lasted quite awhile and did not cycle out in two/three weeks????

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                          • Cat Herder
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 13744

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LK5kids
                            Agree....when NOTHING else worked, this did! Also, it lasted quite awhile and did not cycle out in two/three weeks????
                            Oh, that is awful.

                            I'd wonder if they did boil/disinfect all toys/pacifiers/bottle nipples etc. to prevent re-infection? :confused:
                            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                            • Blackcat31
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 36124

                              #15
                              Mom decided to take baby in this afternoon to see the pediatrician. The diaper area is now flaming red so mom decided it was best to bring baby in.

                              As far as mom being treated, she said she is doing yogurt treatment on her nipples, but she also said she uses a nipple guard while nursing so that has definitely helped.

                              We'll see what the Dr says this afternoon.

                              Poor babe.

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