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  • Scout
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1774

    #16
    This must be where I got my info. I'd like to know which ratio is better, if anyone knows. Thanks!!

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    • Cradle2crayons
      Daycare.com Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 3642

      #17
      Originally posted by Scout
      Why does it seem everyone has different bleach/water ratios?? I use 1 tablespoon to gallon for toys and it seems to work?? I read it somewhere online but, can't remember where. 1/4 c is a whole lot more! Does anyone use the small amount I use? :confused: If I can up it to that I would if what I am doing isn't working. I usually only bleach for nasty viruses like norovirus or rotovirus. Hand, foot, and mouth I would as well. Not for colds!
      I think some states dictate bleach dilution ratios maybe??

      Also it says on the bleach several different dilutions including 2 teaspoons per gallon for 200 ppm.
      But it also says to soak dilute 1/3 cup in 2 quarts of water. That sounds strong to me. For bathrooms it says to use 1 cup of bleach in 1 1/2 gallons of water.

      I guess it depends on what dilution the state requires.

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      • MarinaVanessa
        Family Childcare Home
        • Jan 2010
        • 7211

        #18
        Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
        I think some states dictate bleach dilution ratios maybe??

        Also it says on the bleach several different dilutions including 2 teaspoons per gallon for 200 ppm.
        But it also says to soak dilute 1/3 cup in 2 quarts of water. That sounds strong to me. For bathrooms it says to use 1 cup of bleach in 1 1/2 gallons of water.

        I guess it depends on what dilution the state requires.
        Yep this is it ... btw I'm not required to use bleach, it's just recommended. The 1/4 cup is only to dunk toys and stuff and the spray ratio is enough to kill viruses on eating and food prep surfaces but not enough to require you to have to rinse the surface free of the bleach solution. Everyone has their recommendations . Most of my cleansers are natural as in vinegar, baking soda paste, lemon etc. and I only use the bleach/water solution on surfaces mostly (in a spray bottle) and when I can't stick something in the dishwasher.

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        • Cradle2crayons
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 3642

          #19
          Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
          Yep this is it ... btw I'm not required to use bleach, it's just recommended. The 1/4 cup is only to dunk toys and stuff and the spray ratio is enough to kill viruses on eating and food prep surfaces but not enough to require you to have to rinse the surface free of the bleach solution. Everyone has their recommendations . Most of my cleansers are natural as in vinegar, baking soda paste, lemon etc. and I only use the bleach/water solution on surfaces mostly (in a spray bottle) and when I can't stick something in the dishwasher.
          I'm legally unlicensed so I can use whatever I want. I use Odoban. For everything. Mopping, cleaning, laundry, you name it.

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          • Starburst
            Provider in Training
            • Jan 2013
            • 1522

            #20
            I was looking up home safety earlier today and some how found this:


            This is actually really helpful because I do have asthma and It flares up when I use bleach and I always though licensing required bleach.

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            • Cradle2crayons
              Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 3642

              #21
              Originally posted by Starburst
              I was looking up home safety earlier today and some how found this:


              This is actually really helpful because I do have asthma and It flares up when I use bleach and I always though licensing required bleach.
              Yes, I've been posting about the dangers of bleach and asthma since day one here on this board. Matter of fact, even if we are in a store bathroom that uses bleach to clean, my daughter can smell it when we walk in the front door. And she'll hold nature u til we get somewhere else because if she walks in a bathroom where there has been bleach she will lose her breath.

              There has been a correlation between bleach and breathing problems for a long time. With so many options out there that are EPA approved, there really is no reason for any state to require bleach in a house.

              Even though I'm not required to use it, it is recommended and from day one I informed the powers that be related to my NHI, CDA program, and state pay inspections... I will NOT use it. I will NOT even buy bleach. PERIOD.

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              • JoseyJo
                Group DCP in Kansas
                • Apr 2013
                • 964

                #22
                Originally posted by Starburst
                I was looking up home safety earlier today and some how found this:


                This is actually really helpful because I do have asthma and It flares up when I use bleach and I always though licensing required bleach.
                Thank you so much!!! I am gonna look into these products Any idea where to get them for the least expensive?

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                • laceylmm
                  New Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 227

                  #23
                  Is Odoban in the laundry section at Walmart?

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                  • Starburst
                    Provider in Training
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1522

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JoseyJo
                    Thank you so much!!! I am gonna look into these products Any idea where to get them for the least expensive?
                    I haven't looked into that yet, but probably just look online and comparison shop and look around at local chain stores (Target, Kmart, Costco, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's). You could also look at the ingredients and see if those stores carry off brands or similar green products.

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                    • Cradle2crayons
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 3642

                      #25
                      Originally posted by laceylmm
                      Is Odoban in the laundry section at Walmart?
                      Here in my area ... Odoban is on the cleaner isle on the bottom shelf. Normally I can get it in the gallon with a free additional spray bottle of already mixed Odoban. But my local Walmart doesn't have all e scents. Just the eucalyptus which is all I buy.

                      The local Home Depot has all the different scents though.

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                      • MarinaVanessa
                        Family Childcare Home
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 7211

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Starburst
                        I was looking up home safety earlier today and some how found this:


                        This is actually really helpful because I do have asthma and It flares up when I use bleach and I always though licensing required bleach.
                        I am now just reading through this which is great because it talks about CA CCL Title 22 regulations and I am in CA so I like that it's specific to my state. I'm only on page 4 so far but I was reading about the difference between sanitizing and disinfecting and how it applies to my regulations and on page 4 they give USEPA-registered bleach-free disinfectants and sanitizer examples but the only actual disinfectants they list are for hard, non-porous, non-food surfaces :confused:.

                        I use bleach/water solution on my highchairs, play furniture and child tables and chairs because I know it disinfects ... not just sanitizes (so far I don't have issues with asthmatic kids or children that have breathing problems). But if I wanted to change from using bleach to using something else instead to disinfect, not just sanitize, food surfaces like the table that the kids eat on and the highchairs what would I use?

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                        • Cradle2crayons
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3642

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                          I am now just reading through this which is great because it talks about CA CCL Title 22 regulations and I am in CA so I like that it's specific to my state. I'm only on page 4 so far but I was reading about the difference between sanitizing and disinfecting and how it applies to my regulations and on page 4 they give USEPA-registered bleach-free disinfectants and sanitizer examples but the only actual disinfectants they list are for hard, non-porous, non-food surfaces :confused:.

                          I use bleach/water solution on my highchairs, play furniture and child tables and chairs because I know it disinfects ... not just sanitizes (so far I don't have issues with asthmatic kids or children that have breathing problems). But if I wanted to change from using bleach to using something else instead to disinfect, not just sanitize, food surfaces like the table that the kids eat on and the highchairs what would I use?
                          It has to say on the back of the bottle that its EPA approved as a sanitizer and a disinfectant. I know in the back if my Odoban it has the EPA approval number and says its approved for disinfection and sanitizer and how to mix it for either one you want to use.

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                          • MarinaVanessa
                            Family Childcare Home
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 7211

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                            It has to say on the back of the bottle that its EPA approved as a sanitizer and a disinfectant. I know in the back if my Odoban it has the EPA approval number and says its approved for disinfection and sanitizer and how to mix it for either one you want to use.
                            Okay, so Odoban does disinfect ... good to know. The problem that I was having was that I've been scouring the internet trying to find something that I can use on food-surfaces as a disinfectant and was coming up with nothing. Thanks, I'll see if I can find it local and what the cost is. The one thing that I do like about bleach is that I can find it anywhere and that it's cheap. Hopefully Odoban isn't that much more expensive. Thanks!

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                            • JoseyJo
                              Group DCP in Kansas
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 964

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                              Okay, so Odoban does disinfect ... good to know. The problem that I was having was that I've been scouring the internet trying to find something that I can use on food-surfaces as a disinfectant and was coming up with nothing. Thanks, I'll see if I can find it local and what the cost is. The one thing that I do like about bleach is that I can find it anywhere and that it's cheap. Hopefully Odoban isn't that much more expensive. Thanks!
                              It does disinfect, but it takes 10 minutes! As in it has to stay wet w/ odoban for 10 minutes to disinfect. Even when I spray it on pretty thickly and leave it it air dries faster than that, and it is not food-surface safe.

                              Eliminate odors, freshen and disinfect with OdoBan cleaning products. Made in USA since 1980. Remove tough odors, like pet odors, laundry odors and smoke odors. Use OdoBan for home, school, car or office.


                              Don't get me wrong- I love my odoban, but only for sanitizing and odor removal

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                              • Cradle2crayons
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 3642

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JoseyJo
                                It does disinfect, but it takes 10 minutes! As in it has to stay wet w/ odoban for 10 minutes to disinfect. Even when I spray it on pretty thickly and leave it it air dries faster than that, and it is not food-surface safe.

                                Eliminate odors, freshen and disinfect with OdoBan cleaning products. Made in USA since 1980. Remove tough odors, like pet odors, laundry odors and smoke odors. Use OdoBan for home, school, car or office.


                                Don't get me wrong- I love my odoban, but only for sanitizing and odor removal
                                It's food surface safe all you have to do is after it dries, just wipe off the surface with a damp cloth. Only takes a second.

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