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  • Heidi
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 7121

    #31
    Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
    Wile my wallet would really want me to say the 26 month old was under two, I just can't do it . I have a dcg who is 25 months and her sister is 37 months... And last week we went to the zoo and I just keep thinking she's two. So the lady asks how old she is I said she is two and she got in free. It didn't strike me to tell her the exact months which at the time was not even 25 months yet. When we got home the mom asked how much money it was to get in and I said dcg was free and she was like really.. She's over two... I'm like she IS OVER TWO OMG LOL.

    I guess if the lady had prompted me I'd have thought about the months but she didn't ask and I didn't even think about it because all the ire kids were over three
    IF 2 and under are free, then you did fine. She is 2 until she is 3. :: IF UNDER 2 is free, then you still did fine. You said 2, and they would have charged you unless you said she's 23 months.

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    • littlemissmuffet
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2194

      #32
      A daycare provider who charges different rates for different ages wouldn't appreciate being lied to about a child's age to get a better deal...

      I find it interesting how many business owners here are willing to rip off another business. :confused:

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      • EchoMom
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2012
        • 729

        #33
        Well here's the story...

        Yesterday it just happened to be that we had a VERY slow daycare day. So my husband had taken the day off work to go to the water park with me and my DS 21 months old. My mom (daycare partner) would be staying home with the 1 infant we had that day.

        At drop off I asked DCB's mom if he could come to the water park with us, my treat. I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months old. But he's just barely only an inch taller than my own DS and I just didn't think it was a big deal. Well, I KNOW that my husband has a super super super super super obsessively sensitive conscience so I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months old.

        So I bought my discount tickets for the water park at the grocery store for 2 adults. Then when we went to the water park and we presented the 2 tickets they asked if the boys were under 2 and I said yes and they said ok and let us go through.

        We paid $60 for our 2 adult tickets, $8 for parking, $8 for locker rental, $35 for lunch, $11 for ice cream, and $20 for souveniers and I didn't even ride a single adult ride I only played with the boys in the kids area all day... It doesn't bother MY conscience that I lied but it bothered my husband a ton that we lied about a 26 month old being under 2.

        Now I realize there's a double lie here. I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months but really I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months. Turns out when I looked at his paperwork today he's actually 2 years 9 months! OOPS! I really didn't realize he was THAT old, again, small though!

        My husband wanted to go back to the grocery store and buy a ticket for the "26" month old because he felt so bad about lying. I got mad and said that was stupid because if I was going to pay $25 for a ticket for him I just wouldn't have taken him at all on our special family day and left him at home bored with just my mom and one infant. And we did pay for so many other things that they make gigantic profit from.

        It just doesn't bother me like it does him though. I feel like they're a big company and if they were worried about enforcing the policy or being strict they would require proof but it's not really that big a deal to them. It's on the honor system to tell the truth about your child's age and they obviously know not everyone is 100% truthful and yet it's not worth it to them to worry about being strict. I spent way more by bringing him than if I had not brought him at all.

        It's on the honor system and it just doesn't bother me that i was dishonorable by lying about what I thought was a 2.5year old. Hope I'm not villanized for being honest...

        This is something that my husband and I butt heads about often as minor things like this come up.

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        • Cradle2crayons
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 3642

          #34
          Originally posted by EchoMom
          Well here's the story...

          Yesterday it just happened to be that we had a VERY slow daycare day. So my husband had taken the day off work to go to the water park with me and my DS 21 months old. My mom (daycare partner) would be staying home with the 1 infant we had that day.

          At drop off I asked DCB's mom if he could come to the water park with us, my treat. I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months old. But he's just barely only an inch taller than my own DS and I just didn't think it was a big deal. Well, I KNOW that my husband has a super super super super super obsessively sensitive conscience so I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months old.

          So I bought my discount tickets for the water park at the grocery store for 2 adults. Then when we went to the water park and we presented the 2 tickets they asked if the boys were under 2 and I said yes and they said ok and let us go through.

          We paid $60 for our 2 adult tickets, $8 for parking, $8 for locker rental, $35 for lunch, $11 for ice cream, and $20 for souveniers and I didn't even ride a single adult ride I only played with the boys in the kids area all day... It doesn't bother MY conscience that I lied but it bothered my husband a ton that we lied about a 26 month old being under 2.

          Now I realize there's a double lie here. I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months but really I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months. Turns out when I looked at his paperwork today he's actually 2 years 9 months! OOPS! I really didn't realize he was THAT old, again, small though!

          My husband wanted to go back to the grocery store and buy a ticket for the "26" month old because he felt so bad about lying. I got mad and said that was stupid because if I was going to pay $25 for a ticket for him I just wouldn't have taken him at all on our special family day and left him at home bored with just my mom and one infant. And we did pay for so many other things that they make gigantic profit from.

          It just doesn't bother me like it does him though. I feel like they're a big company and if they were worried about enforcing the policy or being strict they would require proof but it's not really that big a deal to them. It's on the honor system to tell the truth about your child's age and they obviously know not everyone is 100% truthful and yet it's not worth it to them to worry about being strict. I spent way more by bringing him than if I had not brought him at all.

          It's on the honor system and it just doesn't bother me that i was dishonorable by lying about what I thought was a 2.5year old. Hope I'm not villanized for being honest...

          This is something that my husband and I butt heads about often as minor things like this come up.
          WOWEEEE they made a killing off your small family outing didn't they?? YIKES ...

          The cost of over two tickets is one reason we don't do as much as we want to do as a daycare. Of course all of our bio kids are well above all the cut offs so its not an issue. I can see both sides to your story and I, for one, admire your honesty here. I can see that you spent well more than just a ticket and see why that is justified. But I also see your husbands point as well.

          Now a days, the cost of living, the recent economic problems, and jacked up cost of doing family things contribute to adults even thinking about being dishonest. Is a shame it costs four people $200 to go to a water park. It's a sign of the times. :hug: I still love you and certainly not going to judge what you did. I know you realize what you did was wrong and I do understand why you did it. I just couldn't have dine it though. I STILL feel bad about our zoo trip and it was only a five dollar ticket. But I did give the child's age correctly. And I didn't intentionally deceive but still feel horrible anyway. If it weren't an hour away I probably would have already went back over there and bought a ticket

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          • Cradle2crayons
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3642

            #35
            Originally posted by Heidi
            IF 2 and under are free, then you did fine. She is 2 until she is 3. :: IF UNDER 2 is free, then you still did fine. You said 2, and they would have charged you unless you said she's 23 months.
            Yes it turns out it was UNDER 2 was free... I thought it was 2 and over because the lady didn't charge us. But when I got home and got the reaction from mom and then got online to check, I realized it was under two. By your right, she did ask the age and I told her two. Still feel bad though oh well .

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            • sahm1225
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2060

              #36
              I said my dd was two at Disney. She turned 3 a few days before we arrived there on vacation. I called and the employee told me that as long as she didn't look like 7 years old that they didn't care!

              I was actually just thinking about how airplanes have a rule that you pay for a seat once they are two since they occupy a seat. My youngest is very small (like off the charts small - she's 17 months and the size of a petite 9 month old). She has medical issues and we are testing for growth hormone deficiency. So I was wondering if she was 2 1/2 and still a lap child if they would charge?

              I would've done the same as you and said under 2. Maybe call and apologize to the company so your husband feels better?

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #37
                Originally posted by EchoMom
                Well here's the story...

                Yesterday it just happened to be that we had a VERY slow daycare day. So my husband had taken the day off work to go to the water park with me and my DS 21 months old. My mom (daycare partner) would be staying home with the 1 infant we had that day.

                At drop off I asked DCB's mom if he could come to the water park with us, my treat. I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months old. But he's just barely only an inch taller than my own DS and I just didn't think it was a big deal. Well, I KNOW that my husband has a super super super super super obsessively sensitive conscience so I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months old.

                So I bought my discount tickets for the water park at the grocery store for 2 adults. Then when we went to the water park and we presented the 2 tickets they asked if the boys were under 2 and I said yes and they said ok and let us go through.

                We paid $60 for our 2 adult tickets, $8 for parking, $8 for locker rental, $35 for lunch, $11 for ice cream, and $20 for souveniers and I didn't even ride a single adult ride I only played with the boys in the kids area all day... It doesn't bother MY conscience that I lied but it bothered my husband a ton that we lied about a 26 month old being under 2.

                Now I realize there's a double lie here. I told my husband he was 2 years 2 months but really I THOUGHT he was 2 years 6 months. Turns out when I looked at his paperwork today he's actually 2 years 9 months! OOPS! I really didn't realize he was THAT old, again, small though!

                My husband wanted to go back to the grocery store and buy a ticket for the "26" month old because he felt so bad about lying. I got mad and said that was stupid because if I was going to pay $25 for a ticket for him I just wouldn't have taken him at all on our special family day and left him at home bored with just my mom and one infant. And we did pay for so many other things that they make gigantic profit from.

                It just doesn't bother me like it does him though. I feel like they're a big company and if they were worried about enforcing the policy or being strict they would require proof but it's not really that big a deal to them. It's on the honor system to tell the truth about your child's age and they obviously know not everyone is 100% truthful and yet it's not worth it to them to worry about being strict. I spent way more by bringing him than if I had not brought him at all.

                It's on the honor system and it just doesn't bother me that i was dishonorable by lying about what I thought was a 2.5year old. Hope I'm not villanized for being honest...

                This is something that my husband and I butt heads about often as minor things like this come up.
                :confused: You hope you are not villanized for your honesty?

                I'm sorry but I didn't read about any honest actions so I am confused by that statement.

                Not only were you dishonest about the child's age to your DH but to the water park itself.

                You also complained about the high cost of stuff while there....did you ever stop to think that maybe prices are super high at places like that because of dishonest people?

                I am really surprised by some of the content in this thread. :confused:

                Fwiw~ I am NOT dissing YOU personally, as I don't know you IRL, but I am disheartened by your actions/choices

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                • Play Care
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 6642

                  #38
                  Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
                  A daycare provider who charges different rates for different ages wouldn't appreciate being lied to about a child's age to get a better deal...

                  I find it interesting how many business owners here are willing to rip off another business. :confused:
                  :confused:
                  I went through the thread and have found the majority (myself included) have said they *wouldn't* lie...

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                  • EchoMom
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 729

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                    WOWEEEE they made a killing off your small family outing didn't they?? YIKES ...

                    The cost of over two tickets is one reason we don't do as much as we want to do as a daycare. Of course all of our bio kids are well above all the cut offs so its not an issue. I can see both sides to your story and I, for one, admire your honesty here. I can see that you spent well more than just a ticket and see why that is justified. But I also see your husbands point as well.

                    Thanks for your kind words!

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                    • MissSarah
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 53

                      #40
                      Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                      I tend to be completely honest and just pay up when my children hit those milestone ages. Comes with the territory.

                      But, is the wording of the cut off "2 and Under" or "Under 2"? There is a difference

                      You could also do as a PP mentioned and say that the gate "he's two," and let them decide whether to charge.


                      Aside from the fact that it doesn't set a very good example, it would just stress me out too much to lie about it. I'd spend the whole time there feeling guilty and worrying that I'd get caught.

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                      • SilverSabre25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 7585

                        #41
                        heh, I know where you went!

                        This is a reason we don't go places like that without purchasing a season pass...seriously 2 visits and you would probably have more saved more than you paid.

                        And I do happen to agree, that the prices at that one are WAY ridiculous. The park next door isn't much better (which is why we have a membership).

                        You did what you did and you can't undo your actions. If your husband really feels that beaten up over it, let him buy the ticket. In your situation I may have done as you did, but I would have felt sorta icky about it. I still might have done it. Especially given the rates. For a tiny 2.5 year old, eh. Who knows.
                        Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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                        • Heidi
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 7121

                          #42
                          Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                          heh, I know where you went!

                          This is a reason we don't go places like that without purchasing a season pass...seriously 2 visits and you would probably have more saved more than you paid.

                          And I do happen to agree, that the prices at that one are WAY ridiculous. The park next door isn't much better (which is why we have a membership).

                          You did what you did and you can't undo your actions. If your husband really feels that beaten up over it, let him buy the ticket. In your situation I may have done as you did, but I would have felt sorta icky about it. I still might have done it. Especially given the rates. For a tiny 2.5 year old, eh. Who knows.
                          I'm going to agree that while it's wrong and I would have felt guilty, I probably would have done the same, too.

                          I'll add my own guilt to it...my son is 12, but looks 10. I let him order off the kids menu all the time, even when it says " 10 and under". He eats like a 10 year old, not a 12 year old. Which may be why he is the size of a 10 year old? hmmm...

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                          • mama0609
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 43

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Heidi
                            I'll add my own guilt to it...my son is 12, but looks 10. I let him order off the kids menu all the time, even when it says " 10 and under". He eats like a 10 year old, not a 12 year old. Which may be why he is the size of a 10 year old? hmmm...
                            "I" order off the kids menu...and I'm 27. I just want a smaller portion sometimes!!
                            Last edited by Blackcat31; 06-27-2013, 07:16 AM. Reason: fixed quote

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