Colic/Acid Reflux... What Gives?

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  • lflick
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 207

    Colic/Acid Reflux... What Gives?

    Hi all! I have been blessed with some really challenging situations thus far.... makes me shake my head and question everything... anyways.... I have a friends baby (8 weeks old) who is VERY fussy.... ok ok SCREAMER... I have a 5 month old myself and have older boys as well and never have I experienced crying of this magnitude. DCG has been screaming all morning... she acts tired... I held her and she fell asleep and as soon as I layed her in PnP she wakes and had been screaming since. She is not wet, she is not hungry... I think she is fighting her sleep! Anyways, mom has been having a rough go of it as well... she recently started meds of reflux.... has been on a few formulas... all due to these fits.... my question is HOW DOES ONE SURVIVE THE DAY?! I feel so bad that I cannot soothe this baby... she is all worked up and I am just at a loss. The first 2 or three times I had her she was fussy BUT it was nothing like this!
  • Sunchimes
    Daycare.com Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1847

    #2
    Can you wear her in some sort of sling type thing? I think some states allow it and some don't. I had the same baby, and the only thing that soothed him was wearing him. I wore him until his toe nails drug the floor and he learned to deal with the colic/reflux.

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    • Kym2098
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 92

      #3
      Wish I had some really great advice.. I had a DCB who had the same problems colic/reflux. Always, ALWAYS needed to be held.. Would wake up if put down in pnp etc. it went on for about 2 1/2mo and I had to let him go.
      My stress level was thru the roof.. Also I'm only into daycare now for a year.

      Hopefully w patience you can get thru this if not I'd look for a new kid to watch..
      There's no magic remedy!

      Good luck!:hug:

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      • Heidi
        Daycare.com Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 7121

        #4
        poor thing...poor you! :hug:

        Is she there full-time or are you just helping out a friend?

        My own kids had some fussiness until I switched them to low-iron formula. I don't know if they even sell that anymore. That was years ago.

        You said she cries when you put her down. Is she content being held? Does she scrunch up her legs, or otherwise show that she's in pain?

        If you lay her on her tummy and rub her back, does she seem more comfortable?
        How about she she's more upright, like a bouncer or in her car seat?

        I'm not suggesting she sleep these ways, just wondering if she ever seems comfortable, or if she cries no matter what?

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        • Cradle2crayons
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 3642

          #5
          BTDT I have a ten year old who is STILL on reflux meds and has since birth. When she was three days old she was out on Zantac once a day. It didn't help. They went up to twice a day. It didn't help. They went up to three times a day it helped quite a bit. We added rice cereal it helped even more. Then we went to a pedi gi doctor and he tweaked her Zantac a little and went to the max dose for weight and Whalah. HUGE IMPROVEMENT. The deal was that regular pediatricians only dose Zantac 2mg per kg twice a day. Pediatric gi doctors dose it 5mg per kg max divided into three equal dosages. It makes the world of difference for some because the pediatrician dose just isn't enough sometimes. If the baby is still showing signs of reflux mom has several options to discuss with pedi. First is rice cereal in bottles. My daughter started at one teaspoon per ounce and then ended up on very very milkshake thick bottles that helped TRMENDOUSLY. Second is if the baby is one too low of a dose of Zantac then the doc either needs to go up, go to three times a day doses, or do a consult at a pediatric gi doctor.

          Then she got colic yep that was hugely fun!!! But we got through that with gas drops and propping her up to sleep.

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          • Lyss
            Chaos Coordinator :)
            • Apr 2012
            • 1429

            #6
            Is the baby ft or pt?

            My own DD struggled with severe silent reflux as an infant. Honestly I didn't feel like the medication worked, maybe her dosage was wrong? For her the thing that helped the most when it came to napping was to elevate the end of the bed where her head was and swaddle (we wrapped the blanket across her abdomen, she hated her arms swaddled, plus I've heard pressure helps). We also propped/held her upright for 30 mins after eating.

            For the DCG I had that was held 24/7 (major screamer, I nearly termed) the thing that helped with her fro 10 weeks til she learned to roll at 7 months was being swaddled, a box fan or waterfall music on, & a blanket rolled up next to her.

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            • lflick
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 207

              #7
              PT, two days a week. More helping out a friend at the moment as she was bringing her to work but she wasn't getting anything done due to this behavior. She started her meds and was great and now it seems like back to square one. Mom asked me to offer any advice but tbh I don't have any. One of my twins has horrid reflux and I did the rice and the propping and what not and it helped a little bit. DCG is to the point she is no longer content being held today just crying. I know part of it is exhaustion as she wakes as soon as she lays down! Then if she does fall asleep she is up shortly there after as the need to feed wins.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #8
                Originally posted by Lyss
                Is the baby ft or pt?

                My own DD struggled with severe silent reflux as an infant. Honestly I didn't feel like the medication worked, maybe her dosage was wrong? For her the thing that helped the most when it came to napping was to elevate the end of the bed (we used books) where her head was and swaddle. We also propped/held her upright for 30 mins after eating.

                For the DCG I had that was held 24/7 (major screamer, I nearly termed) the thing that helped with her fro 10 weeks til she learned to roll at 7 months was being swaddled, a box fan or waterfall music on, & a blanket rolled up next to her.
                In MN, we cannot swaddle an infant and cannot have a blanket or anything for that matter in the crib with them while they sleep.

                As a matter of fact, we can only wear a baby while the infant is awake and alert. If they fall asleep, they MUST be placed in a crib.

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                • Cradle2crayons
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3642

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lflick
                  PT, two days a week. More helping out a friend at the moment as she was bringing her to work but she wasn't getting anything done due to this behavior. She started her meds and was great and now it seems like back to square one. Mom asked me to offer any advice but tbh I don't have any. One of my twins has horrid reflux and I did the rice and the propping and what not and it helped a little bit. DCG is to the point she is no longer content being held today just crying. I know part of it is exhaustion as she wakes as soon as she lays down! Then if she does fall asleep she is up shortly there after as the need to feed wins.
                  Zantac dosage is weight dependent. I posted right under your thread some information about dosages. If it worked at first then not so much, then baby likely outgrew its dose. I'd have her check with doctor for a dosage adjustment. Every time dd would outgrow her dose, just that tiny dosage tweak brought it back under control again.

                  And I do mean 0.1cc made a difference.

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                  • mamac
                    Tantrum Negotiator
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 772

                    #10
                    My ds was the same way with the constant screaming. We struggled for the first 13 months but nothing seemed to work for him either. We literally went through every type of formula but he would always spit up more than he would take in. Adding rice cereal to his formula helped a little to keep everything down but he still wasn't very happy. He was put on the reflux meds, too, and even that didn't help. We weren't even able to have him fall asleep in our arms until he was almost 14 months old and I think that was only because it was his first time being sick with a fever. The poor kid was just completely wiped out. I'm pretty sure his "fussiness" was due to eating issues but the doctors never did give us any real answers or solutions to quiet him.

                    I'm sorry that I don't have any good advice for you other than to say it may be a long road ahead if you choose to keep caring for this baby. There is absolutely no way I would have had the patience to deal with this if he wasn't my child, and believe me, even then there were days when I almost couldn't deal with it. Thankfully we survived and he is now a healthy, happy 3 year old. He still doesn't like to eat anything though. Now dh and I joke about it but we can honestly say that had he been the first child he would have been the last... ::

                    Good luck with everything! :hug:

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                    • Lyss
                      Chaos Coordinator :)
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1429

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      In MN, we cannot swaddle an infant and cannot have a blanket or anything for that matter in the crib with them while they sleep.

                      As a matter of fact, we can only wear a baby while the infant is awake and alert. If they fall asleep, they MUST be placed in a crib.
                      I can see why on the swaddling, I always felt bad wrapping them up and was nervous that I would do it too tight!

                      The DCG that I used a blanket rolled up next to her (it was a burp cloth mom rolled and used rubber bands to hold tight) has this "tick" as her mom calls it, where she has to rub her elbow on something (looks like she's flapping her arm like a wing : so I'd put it next to her arm/legs then when she was asleep remove it.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lyss
                        The DCG that I used a blanket rolled up next to her (well it was a burp cloth mom rolled and used rubber bands to hold tight) has this "tick" as her mom calls it, where she has to rub her elbow on something (looks like she's flapping her arm like a wing : so I'd put it next to her arm/legs then when she was asleep remove it.
                        ::

                        that's funny....in an odd sort of way.

                        Yeah, MN has gotten really strict with safe infant sleep rules that I can't even let a kid have a stuffed animal in the crib with them.

                        NOTHING. Not even a burp cloth. Nothing but a firm mattress with a tight fitting sheet.

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                        • Heidi
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 7121

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          ::

                          that's funny....in an odd sort of way.

                          Yeah, MN has gotten really strict with safe infant sleep rules that I can't even let a kid have a stuffed animal in the crib with them.

                          NOTHING. Not even a burp cloth. Nothing but a firm mattress with a tight fitting sheet.
                          At least here we're allowed a blanket, and swaddling is ok, too.

                          Mine were swaddled, then at about 3-4 months, I tucked the blanket under their arms and under the mattress all the way around. Now, at 6 months, they each have an afghan type blanket with "breathing holes", because they would pull the blanket out from the mattress by now. Naturally, they both sleep with their blanket on their faces.
                          Last edited by Blackcat31; 06-24-2013, 09:11 AM.

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