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  • My3cents
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3387

    #16
    Originally posted by countrymom
    ok, what is cps going to do. Go to gma's tell her what happened then what. Its awful to have cps come to your house, trust me. I would call gma (because you said she would do something about it) and discuss it with her. document what was said, what you did. talk to the girl often. If you still find some red flags then call cps.
    they are trained for this. They are going to go into that home and see what is going on and talk with the little girl, everyone involved.

    Its awful to go through life being abused over and over because no one would rock the boat.

    I hear you but better safe then sorry in this situation. Call and report, your mandated, licensed or not- anyone who works with children is mandated! The red flags are blazing there is no need to wait for more red flags.

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    • EntropyControlSpecialist
      Embracing the chaos.
      • Mar 2012
      • 7466

      #17
      Originally posted by Hunni Bee
      Yes. A big waving cherry red one. Especially since he only does it out of the eyesight of adults. And the mothers reaction.

      It makes me boil inside when adults brush off things like this. It doesn't matter what the parents think. If Sandy does not like the way this boy touches her and cannot get him to stop.on her own, then its the parents' job to stop it. No matter if he's 13 or 7 or 4, developmentally delayed or not.

      Please document and keep open communication with the child about it.

      I changed my mind. Please report asap. Document everything the child and mother said.
      Me, too. My Mom's best friend's son sexually assaulted me when I was younger. Upon having an anxiety attack because that man (he was 20 and I was a young girl) was coming to stay in the house again and telling my Mom she brushed it off and said she didn't want to ruin the friendship.

      I don't take things like this lightly and I WOULD report it to CPS for them to do further investigating. Stating with "just" touching her bottom seems almost like grooming. Start off with something small, in private NOT around other adults, and work your way up to bigger things. No no no. Report!!!!

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      • TheGoodLife
        Home Daycare Provider
        • Feb 2012
        • 1372

        #18
        I would report- you don't want to find out that something happened that could have had the opportunity to stop, too late. Your job is to report, and then CPS and the family must go from there. Good luck, that is a very difficult situation to be faced with

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Call CPS.

          I would NOT discuss this further with ANYONE, including Sandy and/or her relatives.

          You need to report when anyone makes a statement like that.

          Let CPS sort out whether Nathan is or isn't developmentally capable of something like this.

          Please call CPS immediately.

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          • LK5kids
            Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 1222

            #20
            I'd report this. This is very serious. I am a facilitator for Darkness to Light-sexual abuse trainings....that aside I have a friend who was sexually abused by an older developmentally delayed brother.

            Please take this serious. What is important to always remember that we shouldn't try to figure out if it's actual abuse....that burden is on CPS. If there are signs, red flags, suspicion, it needs to be reported.

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            • Play Care
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 6642

              #21
              Originally posted by LK5kids
              I'd report this. This is very serious. I am a facilitator for Darkness to Light-sexual abuse trainings....that aside I have a friend who was sexually abused by an older developmentally delayed brother.

              Please take this serious. What is important to always remember that we shouldn't try to figure out if it's actual abuse....that burden is on CPS. If there are signs, red flags, suspicion, it needs to be reported.


              As someone who has worked with adults with developmental disabilities I am always amazed at how some adults view them as no more than "overgrown children" and don't supervise appropriately. I have a BIL with developmental delays and he is never alone with my kids. Mostly because he is easily irritated by their normal childish behavior and doesn't know his own strength.

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              • kevlynn
                Mrs.Toya
                • Jan 2013
                • 5

                #22
                As a licensed provider you are a Mandated Reporter please tell if this girl get hurt in the hands of Nathen you will never forgive yourself mom seems to be naive but your not so do something...
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                • littlemissmuffet
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2194

                  #23
                  CALL CPS!

                  Do not discuss anything further with mom or grandma.

                  Just call. NOW!

                  Sandy is asking you for help!

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                  • preschoolteacher
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 935

                    #24
                    Please, please call right away. Don't talk to anyone else about it. Just call. CPS is trained on how to handle this. They will check into the situation and keep tabs on what is happening.

                    I agree that this little girl is asking you for help. She trusts you. Obviously, she's tried to tell other adults in her life about it before, and she's been blown off. Please don't be another adult who fails to help her.

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                    • Laurel
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3218

                      #25
                      I would call CPS to be on the safe side.

                      If the parent objects just tell you are required by law to report it when a child says something like this....cause you are. We all are.

                      Better to be safe than sorry for the little girl's sake.

                      Laurel

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                      • SquirrellyMama
                        New Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 554

                        #26
                        Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
                        CALL CPS!

                        Sandy is asking you for help!
                        This! She has already talked to her mom who dismissed her. Mom told you she doesn't believe her. DCG is now going to you for help. Do not be the next adult to dismiss her.

                        Just because you talked to mom doesn't mean you have done all you can do.

                        K
                        Homeschooling Mama to:
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                        • youretooloud
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1955

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SquirrellyMama
                          This! She has already talked to her mom who dismissed her. Mom told you she doesn't believe her. DCG is now going to you for help. Do not be the next adult to dismiss her.

                          Just because you talked to mom doesn't mean you have done all you can do.

                          K

                          I talked to Dad today. They had talked about it last night. (to be fair, yesterday was the first time mom had heard it)


                          Dad is furious...as in he needs to calm down a little bit before he confronts Nathan. (his idea of confronting this kid would probably get him in trouble)

                          After, literally 15 minutes of him being very furious at Nathan, he talked himself off the ledge, and he did say they called his MOm (grandma/has custody of Nathan) and Grandma called his caseworker first thing this morning. He goes to a public school, and last week was their last day, so I don't think the school can be of any help, but he does see his caseworker and a counselor on a regular schedule, so hopefully they can get on this right away.

                          Dad believed her btw. Dad said that at Sandy's birthday party, he was making him uncomfortable because it appeared as if Nathan was purposely standing under the swings and climbers to catch a peek at girls in their dresses, but he couldn't prove it, he just said "Hey Nathan, come over here and help me". He mentioned it to his Mom, who never saw it, so she just said "Oh, I guess I get to do boys and puberty again". (meaning, she never expected to be raising another child)

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