California Assistant At What Age Can I Hire Them?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • proudmommyofthree
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 179

    California Assistant At What Age Can I Hire Them?

    I have a large inhome daycare. My husband currently is my partner, but he will go back to work durin the summer. I have a friend whose daughter is 14. I have heard that in California you may have an assistant as young as 14 as long as they are not left Alone with the children. This girl is very good with kids and I trust her. I just need some help wih preparing snacks, crafts and playing with the children. If I have her down as my assistant, am I allowed to have my 14 kids? Does anyone know how this works ? Thanks
  • Starburst
    Provider in Training
    • Jan 2013
    • 1522

    #2
    I think as long as she is not left alone with the kids its okay, but I am not 100% sure. At the place I used to work at she had lots of junior assistants (prior daycare girls between 14-17) who she would sometimes pay to help out if one of the assistants was out or she needed more help but she usually had another adult on site too (she would have 2 assistants working one shift most of the day). The only things she didn't allow the junior assistants to do was:
    1] Pick up and carry young children and babies around
    2] Assist with potty training
    3] Change soiled (#2) diapers; but she allowed them to change wet (#1) diapers
    4] Heavy cleaning that involved chemicals (bleach and other cleaning solutions)
    5] Anything more than a warning as discipline (ex: they couldn't put kids in time out but adult assistants could)

    But I do know that she will not need a work permit (California requires most employees who hire minors to sign one) because it is considered a "domestic" job (a job done in some ones home). I needed one when I worked at Michael's but not when I worked at the daycare.

    Comment

    • daycare
      Advanced Daycare.com *********
      • Feb 2011
      • 16259

      #3
      you can hire at age 14, however, you will need to obtain wokers comp and they will charge you an arm and a leg to hire a minor......speaking from experience.

      they will also need to have cpr first aid ......

      Comment

      • proudmommyofthree
        New Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 179

        #4
        Thanks!!! Now will she still count on my ratios if I have her as assistant?

        Comment

        • Crystal
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 4002

          #5
          She will not be counted as a daycare kid in your ratios. With her as an assistant you can have 14 children. You just cannot leave her alone with the children.....meaning you cannot leave the property. She CAN be alone in a room with them.

          You do not need to do a background check. If you are a large license, she will need cpr and first aid.

          You will need a copy of her birth certificate so that you can verify her age if asked if licesning visits. You also need to notify your worker that she will be there as an assistant.

          Comment

          • daycare
            Advanced Daycare.com *********
            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #6
            I wanted to share with you something I just found out.

            I just got off the phone with my county health coordinator, trying to ask about where I can send my new asst to get CPR/First Aid.

            She told me anyone under 18 cannot be left with the children, so they are not required to have the CPR/First Aid, however,she said she highly recommends it.


            She said the reason 18 and up have to be certified, was because we as providers can leave them with the chidlren and there always has to be someone there with the CPR/FA cert on the premises.

            Comment

            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by daycare
              I wanted to share with you something I just found out.

              I just got off the phone with my county health coordinator, trying to ask about where I can send my new asst to get CPR/First Aid.

              She told me anyone under 18 cannot be left with the children, so they are not required to have the CPR/First Aid, however,she said she highly recommends it.


              She said the reason 18 and up have to be certified, was because we as providers can leave them with the chidlren and there always has to be someone there with the CPR/FA cert on the premises.
              I would have ANYONE I used as a substitute, a helper and/or an assistant get trained in BOTH first aid and CPR. Regardless of age.

              Can't hurt.

              Comment

              • daycare
                Advanced Daycare.com *********
                • Feb 2011
                • 16259

                #8
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                I would have ANYONE I used as a substitute, a helper and/or an assistant get trained in BOTH first aid and CPR. Regardless of age.

                Can't hurt.
                I agree....anything could happen. what if we had an earthquake and I was died in it and my asst was not trained in cpr/FA. then should could not help the kids. Or something to that degree......I know that was an extreme example..

                But I was just letting her know that LIC does not require under 18 to be certified..

                Comment

                • proudmommyofthree
                  New Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 179

                  #9
                  Ok I just got off he the phone with licensing. He said they did not need to be CPR certified. (I'm still goin to have her get one) they will not be counted in my ratios as long as she can go home. Which doesn't make sense because If licensing was ever to show up and I have her here i would need to send her home , then I'll be over!?

                  Also I do not need her birth certificate or anything in her file. I asked.

                  So yes I can have an assistant as you g as 14 long as long as they are not left alone. Thanks for the replies. I didn't think I would get a call back from licensing which is why I came on here . Thanks everyone for your replies

                  Comment

                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by proudmommyofthree
                    Ok I just got off he the phone with licensing. He said they did not need to be CPR certified. (I'm still goin to have her get one) they will not be counted in my ratios as long as she can go home. Which doesn't make sense because If licensing was ever to show up and I have her here i would need to send her home , then I'll be over!?

                    Also I do not need her birth certificate or anything in her file. I asked.

                    So yes I can have an assistant as you g as 14 long as long as they are not left alone. Thanks for the replies. I didn't think I would get a call back from licensing which is why I came on here . Thanks everyone for your replies
                    glad you got it all figured out.

                    as far as the whole she has to go home thing. I would do as suggested and have her birth cert on file as proof of age and I would keep it so just in case licensing showed up, you have proof that she is an employee..

                    oh one thing do you know if the still have to fill out the employee forms that licensing requires.

                    I think they are notice of employee rights, statement acknowledging requirement to report child abuse???

                    Comment

                    • proudmommyofthree
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      glad you got it all figured out.

                      as far as the whole she has to go home thing. I would do as suggested and have her birth cert on file as proof of age and I would keep it so just in case licensing showed up, you have proof that she is an employee..

                      oh one thing do you know if the still have to fill out the employee forms that licensing requires.

                      I think they are notice of employee rights, statement acknowledging requirement to report child abuse???
                      From what I was told today, they do not have to fill anything. But as you know with California licensing they are never consistent ugh!!

                      But from what I understood him, any assistant under 17 do not need any paper work filled out.

                      Comment

                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #12
                        Originally posted by proudmommyofthree
                        From what I was told today, they do not have to fill anything. But as you know with California licensing they are never consistent ugh!!

                        But from what I understood him, any assistant under 17 do not need any paper work filled out.
                        that sounds about right.....

                        Can I ask who you have your wokers comp through??

                        Comment

                        • proudmommyofthree
                          New Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 179

                          #13
                          Originally posted by daycare
                          that sounds about right.....

                          Can I ask who you have your wokers comp through??
                          Since my husband is my partner I don't have workers comp. I didn't know I would need one for the 14 year old so I'm going to have to ask insurance broker about that. I'm going to give him a call today and I will get back to you on that. Who do you have? How much do you pay if you don't me asking.

                          Comment

                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #14
                            Originally posted by proudmommyofthree
                            Since my husband is my partner I don't have workers comp. I didn't know I would need one for the 14 year old so I'm going to have to ask insurance broker about that. I'm going to give him a call today and I will get back to you on that. Who do you have? How much do you pay if you don't me asking.
                            well I could not find anyone to cover me so unfortunately, I had to go through state fund. Right now I pay around $60.00 a month, but if I hire someone under 18 it will go up to about $105. per month...........

                            they are a horrible company to deal with, but I didnt have a choice when no one else would underwrite for me.

                            let me know what you find out..............

                            BTW...please anyone correct me if I am wrong, but I was told that we would need to have wokers comp insurance in this state if we have even 1 employee...............

                            Comment

                            • proudmommyofthree
                              New Daycare.com Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 179

                              #15
                              You are correct about needing workers comp with even having just one employee. My husband isn't on the payroll so he is not considered an employee. That is what my tax lady told me.

                              So it it $60 a month per employee? I don't think that's that bad actually, I'm going to have to look into deeper.

                              Thanks

                              Comment

                              Working...