Providers Who Use Prescription Drugs

[Blackcat31]

I agree with you but as a parent I am going to do my darndest to get to know my provider and ask important questions before enrolling my child.

The provider can withhold this information, but if I later found out I would be livid. It doesn't have to be in the rule book, it is the way that I operate as a person. This sounds hyped up, of course with common sense and decency.


This is why when I first started reading these post, I said I don't really have much to comment on........gee I was wrong but it is a moot point because people will do what people want to do and for all the reasons above...great response BC

ABSOLUTELY!! As a parent, my response would be completely different.

[daycare]

Ok So I have to tell you guys this..(funny that this thread came up at this time)

Last week I had to have a surgery. After my surgery, I was put on bed rest and very heavy narcotics. I like to consider myself a naturalist when it comes to meds and foods. I try my hardest to only put things in my body that are natural, so this is huge for me

Lucky for me, I have wonderful help keeping my daycare open and running for me, but it's hard being here not being able to do anything and my boredom factor is out of control. Anyways let me get back to what I was saying.

While on the meds, I am USELESS. I hate the way that I feel. I can hardly walk, I vomit quite a bit, I am confused, I have delayed reactions and all I want to do is sleep. I even have hallucinated a few times. As time has passed, I am able to control myself better, but I have reduced the amount I am taking and am starting to be in control of the meds. I could see how someone would think that they are ok to go on with their day and think that they are ok to carry on.

I just could never in a million years imagine being on something that alters and impairs my abilities and care for children at the same time. But I am sure that there are people who would try and that is a very scary thought.

On the issue of telling the parents or not, well, I think that if you are a person of good morals you would.

[Blackcat31]

I just could never in a million years imagine being on something that alters and impairs my abilities and care for children at the same time. But I am sure that there are people who would try and that is a very scary thought. .

That is the difference though.....your doctor would probably never have signed off for you to care for children due to the medications you were on.

Anything that impairs your ability to care for children in a way that is significant enough that the care you provide is dangerous would probably mean your doctor wouldn't allow it.

There are probably LOTS of providers who are under the influence of something and without a signed statement from their doctor, they ARE operating illegally and in a fashion that makes ALL caregivers look bad.

Doing things that way is sad and scary!

On the issue of telling the parents or not, well, I think that if you are a person of good morals you would.

That is a very unfair statement to make.

If I were taking a prescribed medication and was under the care of my doctor and was deemed physically and medically capable of providing care for children, I wouldn't HAVE to tell anyone and that certainly wouldn't make me an immoral person.

[canadiancare]

I am currently working under the influence of the Internet.

20 years ago I would have been watching soaps during naptime.

[daycare]

That is the difference though.....your doctor would probably never have signed off for you to care for children due to the medications you were on.

Anything that impairs your ability to care for children in a way that is significant enough that the care you provide is dangerous would probably mean your doctor wouldn't allow it.

There are probably LOTS of providers who are under the influence of something and without a signed statement from their doctor, they ARE operating illegally and in a fashion that makes ALL caregivers look bad.

Doing things that way is sad and scary!



That is a very unfair statement to make.

If I were taking a prescribed medication and was under the care of my doctor and was deemed physically and medically capable of providing care for children, I wouldn't HAVE to tell anyone and that certainly wouldn't make me an immoral person.

I understand what you are saying, but this is just how I feel... I could not imagine NOT telling the parents.

[Country Kids]

I'm going to through this out there since it is legal in areas of our country-
what about a prescription for medical marijuanna.

Its prescribed by a doctor, you need it to get through the day, and you can legally grow it. According to lots of people though you can't become addicted and it doesn't affect the brain.

So we wouldn't have to tell a parent we are smoking/growing it for our prescription? I think you can actually grow for other people to.

We can't smoke around children but what about if it were a prescription or we were outside?

New question-should providers be able to smoke legal medical marijuanna while taking care of children?

[daycare]

I'm going to through this out there since it is legal in areas of our country-
what about a prescription for medical marijuanna.

Its prescribed by a doctor, you need it to get through the day, and you can legally grow it. According to lots of people though you can't become addicted and it doesn't affect the brain.

So we wouldn't have to tell a parent we are smoking/growing it for our prescription? I think you can actually grow for other people to.

We can't smoke around children but what about if it were a prescription or we were outside?

New question-should providers be able to smoke legal medical marijuanna while taking care of children?

....Oh my goodness you are all scaring me......

There are soooooo many possibilities that could happen during daycare, now you really have me thinking....

[Lyss]

If a provider disclosed to me she was using narcotics I may be uncomfortable leaving my child with them because I don't know enough about them. On the other hand if a doctor feels she is safe to be around children who am I to say she isn't? I'm not a doctor, I haven't read the studies or had the training that a doctor has.

We've had this thread before, about a respected registered poster saying she used them daily. Obviously she was involved and providing effective and safe care for the children.

It's my personal choice as a parent to say yes or no. If I wasn't aware of the situation I don't think it would matter, I'd be continually observing and making sure it was the proper place for my child. It's not like you interview a provider and then suddenly things are all good, it takes time to develop trust.

Its my responsibility to ask questions and do my homework when choosing a provider, its also my responsibility to continue to monitor the care my child receives. I'm tired of all the government responsibility arguments because it takes the responsibility away from the parents who should be the one's monitoring their child's care.

Ok So I have to tell you guys this..(funny that this thread came up at this time)

Last week I had to have a surgery. After my surgery, I was put on bed rest and very heavy narcotics. I like to consider myself a naturalist when it comes to meds and foods. I try my hardest to only put things in my body that are natural, so this is huge for me

Lucky for me, I have wonderful help keeping my daycare open and running for me, but it's hard being here not being able to do anything and my boredom factor is out of control. Anyways let me get back to what I was saying.

While on the meds, I am USELESS. I hate the way that I feel. I can hardly walk, I vomit quite a bit, I am confused, I have delayed reactions and all I want to do is sleep. I even have hallucinated a few times. As time has passed, I am able to control myself better, but I have reduced the amount I am taking and am starting to be in control of the meds. I could see how someone would think that they are ok to go on with their day and think that they are ok to carry on.

I just could never in a million years imagine being on something that alters and impairs my abilities and care for children at the same time. But I am sure that there are people who would try and that is a very scary thought.

On the issue of telling the parents or not, well, I think that if you are a person of good morals you would.

While I understand your point, your situation is totally different from the OP. Its not a one time thing that a person who stays away from medication is dealing with. Its is a chronic issue which means OP deals with it daily (the medication I'm referring too). Her tolerance (and most likely dosing amount) is completely different from yours.

Hope you're feeling better after your surgery BTW!

[Blackcat31]

I'm going to through this out there since it is legal in areas of our country-
what about a prescription for medical marijuanna.

Its prescribed by a doctor, you need it to get through the day, and you can legally grow it. According to lots of people though you can't become addicted and it doesn't affect the brain.

So we wouldn't have to tell a parent we are smoking/growing it for our prescription? I think you can actually grow for other people to.

We can't smoke around children but what about if it were a prescription or we were outside?

New question-should providers be able to smoke legal medical marijuanna while taking care of children?

Medical marijuana is similar to alcohol use and from what I understand is subject to the same laws.

Use would NOT be legal WHILE on the job.

If you had a medical condition that makes it so you cannot make it through the day without using marijuana, then it is highly doubtful that a doctor would sign off on allowing you to care for children.

Oh, and just an FYI....a majority of people who use marijuana for medical purposes don't smoke it. There are many ways to use marijuana without having to smoke it like cigarettes.

[Lyss]

....Oh my goodness you are all scaring me......

There are soooooo many possibilities that could happen during daycare, now you really have me thinking....

There are so many possibilities with anything and everyone... What about your teachers? Coaches? Religious leaders? the list goes on and on. If we worry about the "what ifs" life is gonna be very hard

[Country Kids]

....Oh my goodness you are all scaring me......

There are soooooo many possibilities that could happen during daycare, now you really have me thinking....

Its not to scare anyone but a look at how our world/country is changing!

We have heard about sister wives, gay marriages, prescription drugs, legal marijuanna, media for preschoolers, proper way to sleep babies, transportation slips, handbooks, forms, forms and more forms quality education for preschoolers, certificates/degrees to teach in your own home, etc. here on the forum/newspapers/classes/etc.

20 years ago when I started this (17 officially), the only thing that was suggested was to have a simple contract if you wanted with parents and to take 8 hours (for me) every 2 years, which seemed like sooooo much back then.

People were astionished that I did arts/crafts/preschool 18 years ago with my childcare. To me that seemed like the norm as I did the same with my own children. It seemed like the natural thing to do. Why wouldn't someone want that and thats what made my childcare stand out over others. Now its the norm and you need to have sooo much more!

Now we have so many more issues in the world/homes/families that need to be addressed and we need to stay up on all current events, laws, rights, and what is happening in the childcare world between parents/providers.

In a nutshell, yes, we are the providers and we are the business owners. I have read though time and time again on education of parents and I guess one thing that parents really need to know is really ask questions, learn about your provider and if something really seems off, go with your gut. If that means they are using something even with a doctors prescription that makes you as a parent uncomfortable (I think every provider here said it would) then thats not the provider for you.

Childcare is not just a home business anymore, but much, much more!

[daycare]

If a provider disclosed to me she was using narcotics I may be uncomfortable leaving my child with them because I don't know enough about them. On the other hand if a doctor feels she is safe to be around children who am I to say she isn't? I'm not a doctor, I haven't read the studies or had the training that a doctor has.

We've had this thread before, about a respected registered poster saying she used them daily. Obviously she was involved and providing effective and safe care for the children.

It's my personal choice as a parent to say yes or no. If I wasn't aware of the situation I don't think it would matter, I'd be continually observing and making sure it was the proper place for my child. It's not like you interview a provider and then suddenly things are all good, it takes time to develop trust.

Its my responsibility to ask questions and do my homework when choosing a provider, its also my responsibility to continue to monitor the care my child receives. I'm tired of all the government responsibility arguments because it takes the responsibility away from the parents who should be the one's monitoring their child's care.



While I understand your point, your situation is totally different from the OP. Its not a one time thing that a person who stays away from medication is dealing with. Its is a chronic issue which means OP deals with it daily (the medication I'm referring too). Her tolerance (and most likely dosing amount) is completely different from yours.

Hope you're feeling better after your surgery BTW!

Oh of course i understand what you are saying, but from what I have experienced, I just can't imagine anyone trying to care for a child who is under the influence of ANYTHING.

My aunt, sweetest person you will ever meet is a lifer on pain meds. She has had over 13 back surgeries and lives on paid meds daily. While she seems ok and is a very wonderful person, I could NEVER imagine her being a daycare provider. I have witnessed her passing out on several occasions, she vomits almost daily, and she is always delayed with her thinking. I am shocked that she is even allowed to drive.

As much as we love her, no one in our family will allow for her to babysit our kids. She takes great offense to this, but we try to tell her it's because we are worried if something happened to you while you were caring for the kids, we wouldn't know.

..I lost my train of thought and have no clue where I am going with this....see, what pain meds do to you....

[Lyss]

In a nutshell, yes, we are the providers and we are the business owners. I have read though time and time again on education of parents and I guess one thing that parents really need to know is really ask questions, learn about your provider and if something really seems off, go with your gut. If that means they are using something even with a doctors prescription that makes you as a parent uncomfortable (I think every provider here said it would) then thats not the provider for you.

[Unregistered]

Same here

Exactly this. I have lupus I do not necessarily disclose that at interviews. Most of my parents know. But, that is after we have that relationship. That way if I look at them and say I am just tired this week so we have been a little more mellow, they know. They know in the summer that the sun does get to me etc. I am not on any meds and my doctor note is with the county stating that I can do childcare etc.

I also have lupus (SLE) and I disclose that to my clients because I don't want them to assume I'm lazy or incapable of doing my job if I'm in a flare that's particularly brutal. I'm not on anything meds during daycare hours that would affect my performance with my job. My doctors have all cleared me for doing my job so that's all good.

By the way, did you all know that May is Lupus Awareness Month???

[Michelle]

Its not to scare anyone but a look at how our world/country is changing!

We have heard about sister wives, gay marriages, prescription drugs, legal marijuanna, media for preschoolers, proper way to sleep babies, transportation slips, handbooks, forms, forms and more forms quality education for preschoolers, certificates/degrees to teach in your own home, etc. here on the forum/newspapers/classes/etc.

20 years ago when I started this (17 officially), the only thing that was suggested was to have a simple contract if you wanted with parents and to take 8 hours (for me) every 2 years, which seemed like sooooo much back then.

People were astionished that I did arts/crafts/preschool 18 years ago with my childcare. To me that seemed like the norm as I did the same with my own children. It seemed like the natural thing to do. Why wouldn't someone want that and thats what made my childcare stand out over others. Now its the norm and you need to have sooo much more!

Now we have so many more issues in the world/homes/families that need to be addressed and we need to stay up on all current events, laws, rights, and what is happening in the childcare world between parents/providers.

In a nutshell, yes, we are the providers and we are the business owners. I have read though time and time again on education of parents and I guess one thing that parents really need to know is really ask questions, learn about your provider and if something really seems off, go with your gut. If that means they are using something even with a doctors prescription that makes you as a parent uncomfortable (I think every provider here said it would) then thats not the provider for you.

Childcare is not just a home business anymore, but much, much more!

OK I have to admit... I started the sister wives thread partly as a joke.. I think this board needs to lighten up !
I am sorry about this... I was not trying to stir up trouble

and I am not a sister wife... by the way!
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as far as meds go... I think I would have to agree with bc but if I ever had to take meds myself... I would not be doing this job... it is too important and little kids lives are at stake.
Can you imagine falling asleep or being so out of it that you can't keep track of them outside? yikes!
(this is just what I would do... not what others should do)