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  • Sugar Magnolia
    Blossoms Blooming
    • Apr 2011
    • 2647

    Risky? Or Great Opportunity?

    The house next door to my center is for rent. They are asking $1000 per month rent. I currently don't do infants.....space restraint in my existing building. I have at least one or two calls a week for infants I have to turn down. If I rented this house, I could have 12 infants and hire.3 fulltime and one part time (floater, give breaks) employees. The going rate for infants is $225 per week. I would pay $10 an hour to staff. So weekly income would $2700 per week, staff would.cost $1400 per week. That's monthly profit of $5200 power month, minus rent, utilities and misc. expenses, I'm looking at around $3500 per month take home pay. So that is the "great opportunity" end. But the risks? Low.enrollment? What if the owner cancels the lease? (they know it would be a daycare). What if the.staff was.unreliable? What if the city takes 14 months to issue the zoning permission? (like my center, 14 months!!!) What if it tanks and I still have a lease to pay? Would YOU.take this risk? Is it worth the risk I dunno. If I never took a risk, I would never have had my.center...
  • Country Kids
    Nature Lover
    • Mar 2011
    • 5051

    #2
    Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
    The house next door to my center is for rent. They are asking $1000 per month rent. I currently don't do infants.....space restraint in my existing building. I have at least one or two calls a week for infants I have to turn down. If I rented this house, I could have 12 infants and hire.3 fulltime and one part time (floater, give breaks) employees. The going rate for infants is $225 per week. I would pay $10 an hour to staff. So weekly income would $2700 per week, staff would.cost $1400 per week. That's monthly profit of $5200 power month, minus rent, utilities and misc. expenses, I'm looking at around $3500 per month take home pay. So that is the "great opportunity" end. But the risks? Low.enrollment? What if the owner cancels the lease? (they know it would be a daycare). What if the.staff was.unreliable? What if the city takes 14 months to issue the zoning permission? (like my center, 14 months!!!) What if it tanks and I still have a lease to pay? Would YOU.take this risk? Is it worth the risk I dunno. If I never took a risk, I would never have had my.center...

    Its sounds great but the first thing I thought of would you even be able to have employees in a totally different building with children. Here we would have to be on premise with the employees. Even though you are next door that just seems like a huge liability.

    Also, what would it cost for insurance for the building plus 4 additional employees?

    It sounds good but in the end to bring that amount home for 12 infants doesn't sound like much. I bring home close to that with 6 preschoolers and 4 SA.

    Also, what happens if you start having a big turnover of employees/infants and your constantly trying to find workers and infants. What happens if you have employees sick, who would fill in?

    There are so many variables it seems to childcare and you never know if taking the next step is good or not unless you do it but you risk so much taking it.
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    • AmyKidsCo
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 3786

      #3
      Don't forget to include liability insurance, utilities, food, supplies, furnishings, background checks (if needed in your state), etc in your expenses. And whether or not you'd have to make any changes/modifications to the house to make it compliant with licensing in your state.

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      • SilverSabre25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 7585

        #4
        I think it sounds like a great opportunity for you, even though it's risky. I read this blog and I think they have a similar sort of set-up.

        Heck, you could even combine the yards maybe and expand your out door play space!
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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #5
          Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
          The house next door to my center is for rent. They are asking $1000 per month rent. I currently don't do infants.....space restraint in my existing building. I have at least one or two calls a week for infants I have to turn down. If I rented this house, I could have 12 infants and hire.3 fulltime and one part time (floater, give breaks) employees. The going rate for infants is $225 per week. I would pay $10 an hour to staff. So weekly income would $2700 per week, staff would.cost $1400 per week. That's monthly profit of $5200 power month, minus rent, utilities and misc. expenses, I'm looking at around $3500 per month take home pay. So that is the "great opportunity" end. But the risks? Low.enrollment? What if the owner cancels the lease? (they know it would be a daycare). What if the.staff was.unreliable? What if the city takes 14 months to issue the zoning permission? (like my center, 14 months!!!) What if it tanks and I still have a lease to pay? Would YOU.take this risk? Is it worth the risk I dunno. If I never took a risk, I would never have had my.center...
          If infant care is in high demand in your area....I would 100% with out a doubt take the chance!!!

          I think you have a good thing going and have no issues with backbone and other daycare related things (both business and fun sides) and like you said, if you had never taken a chance, you wouldn't be where you are today!

          I think one of the saddest things in life aren't the missed opportunities but the opportunities that were never taken for fear of failure.

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          • Sugar Magnolia
            Blossoms Blooming
            • Apr 2011
            • 2647

            #6
            Originally posted by Country Kids
            Its sounds great but the first thing I thought of would you even be able to have employees in a totally different building with children. Here we would have to be on premise with the employees. Even though you are next door that just seems like a huge liability.

            Also, what would it cost for insurance for the building plus 4 additional employees?

            It sounds good but in the end to bring that amount home for 12 infants doesn't sound like much. I bring home close to that with 6 preschoolers and 4 SA.

            Also, what happens if you start having a big turnover of employees/infants and your constantly trying to find workers and infants. What happens if you have employees sick, who would fill in?

            There are so many variables it seems to childcare and you never know if taking the next step is good or not unless you do it but you risk so much taking it.
            I see your point! I do hold a Directors Credential, I was told by licensing I only have to be on site for 4 hours a day. I will DEFINITELY need to look into that. I do worry about staff turnover to. Thanks for your reply Country!

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            • Sugar Magnolia
              Blossoms Blooming
              • Apr 2011
              • 2647

              #7
              Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
              Don't forget to include liability insurance, utilities, food, supplies, furnishings, background checks (if needed in your state), etc in your expenses. And whether or not you'd have to make any changes/modifications to the house to make it compliant with licensing in your state.
              I did include utilities and liability insurance in my calculations. I charge a supply fee, patents would provide food. Hmmm, didn't really consider furnishings or toys though. That is a big expense. Thanks for that important point . The house would need no modifications, its ready to go. Appreciate your input Amy!

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              • Sugar Magnolia
                Blossoms Blooming
                • Apr 2011
                • 2647

                #8
                Originally posted by SilverSabre25
                I think it sounds like a great opportunity for you, even though it's risky. I read this blog and I think they have a similar sort of set-up.

                Heck, you could even combine the yards maybe and expand your out door play space!
                Good blog! . Oh the combined yards would be heavenly!! That was my first thought! Thanks Silver!

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                • Sugar Magnolia
                  Blossoms Blooming
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2647

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  If infant care is in high demand in your area....I would 100% with out a doubt take the chance!!!

                  I think you have a good thing going and have no issues with backbone and other daycare related things (both business and fun sides) and like you said, if you had never taken a chance, you wouldn't be where you are today!

                  I think one of the saddest things in life aren't the missed opportunities but the opportunities that were never taken for fear of failure.
                  Thanks Cat! Infant care is in super duper overdrive demand. Just told.someone no.about.two hours ago. Thank you for the inspiration.

                  I do have to figure out the whole Director thing, like Country pointed out. I could do 4 hours at my current center, and 4 hours next door at the Infant Center. Hmmm, then I need another person at the existing site to cover my 4 hour absence. More expense....
                  As.always, love your input!

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                  • itlw8
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2199

                    #10
                    My worry is how close you will cut from profit to a loss if you are not full. Each opening means 1000 less a month but not less staff.
                    It:: will wait

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                    • momofsix
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1846

                      #11
                      You've already got the experience of running a center. You've already established a great reputation. Having the infants would pretty much guarantee keeping your first center full as they age out of the infant one. I think if you can make the numbers work then go for it!!!

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                      • Holiday Park
                        New Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 279

                        #12
                        Maybe you can do month to month rent ? or at least starting out.

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                        • Lucy
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1654

                          #13
                          Maybe you could see if your lease agreement would include the right to sub-let. If your infant center tanks, you can sub-let the house to someone else to live in it.

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                          • Sugar Magnolia
                            Blossoms Blooming
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 2647

                            #14
                            Originally posted by itlw8
                            My worry is how close you will cut from profit to a loss if you are not full. Each opening means 1000 less a month but not less staff.
                            Yes. This. This exactly is my worry. This scares, me. I needed to hear that from someone else. Thank you.

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                            • Sugar Magnolia
                              Blossoms Blooming
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 2647

                              #15
                              Originally posted by momofsix
                              You've already got the experience of running a center. You've already established a great reputation. Having the infants would pretty much guarantee keeping your first center full as they age out of the infant one. I think if you can make the numbers work then go for it!!!


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