Pack and Play Standards

[Country Kids]

Not sure if this is what they're talking about but I just bought two new pnp's and their sides fold in at a \_/ angle as opposed to a sharp \/ angle....perhaps that's what they're talking about?

The Graco ones I had had two velcro attachments for the pad at the bottom while these have a minimum of 8 which make it incredibly difficult to even get the sheet on it. I can with quite a bit of elbow grease, I keep waterproof pads under each sheet as well and my licensor thought that was a great idea. Was totally fine with it. It's just a pain in the rear.

The pads don't look like there's any way they'd bulge or bunch which is fantastic, I have no idea how many pnp's I've had to pitch because the bottom started to get all wonky.

They are Walmart cheapies but are quite obviously safer than what Graco had going on imho.


I so wanted to get porta cribs but everything with infant beds seems so up in the air right now. I didn't want to invest that kind of money only to have to buy something completely new in the next 6 months

The pnp's that I have had were like what your talking about Willow but a child could still get their neck pinched in it.

Also, the pad had two straps that went through a slit on the bottom and was velcroed underneath the outside of the pnp. That way the child couldn't pull it up and off.

[Patches]

The pnp's that I have had were like what your talking about Willow but a child could still get their neck pinched in it.

Also, the pad had two straps that went through a slit on the bottom and was velcroed underneath the outside of the pnp. That way the child could pull it up and off.

What brand are your pnp's?

[Country Kids]

What brand are your pnp's?

Oh, I'm not sure. The parents provided them for me but I can find out if you would like. Three different families but all were the same.

[Willow]

REALLY dissappointed at how flimsy and disposeable they (PNP's) have gotten.

They almost have to be cheap and near disposable with how often safety regs change on them!

If I knew I could buy one of something that cost me $500 but it would be "good" for a solid decade I would! It's hard however to justify spending more than $50 when you're not sure it's going to be compliant 6 months from now kwim?

It's probably just as tough for manufacturers to keep up too. Why spend all that time and effort coming up with a quality product made of quality materials only to have production ceased a few months after it's distributed?

[nannyde]

They almost have to be cheap and near disposable with how often safety regs change on them!

If I knew I could buy one of something that cost me $500 but it would be "good" for a solid decade I would! It's hard however to justify spending more than $50 when you're not sure it's going to be compliant 6 months from now kwim?

It's probably just as tough for manufacturers to keep up too. Why spend all that time and effort coming up with a quality product made of quality materials only to have production ceased a few months after it's distributed?

they are making them more shallow on the inside and cheapening down the materials so the time of use decreases and the resale is lessened. They want the older mobile baby out as young as possible because the risk of injury increases dramatically as the child pulls up and starts destroying the moveable parts.

If they get shallow the kid gets out instead of getting stuck. By the time they are old enough to do damage they want them out. They make their money off of parents not daycare providers.

[nannyde]

Not sure if this is what they're talking about but I just bought two new pnp's and their sides fold in at a \_/ angle as opposed to a sharp \/ angle....perhaps that's what they're talking about?

The Graco ones I had had two velcro attachments for the pad at the bottom while these have a minimum of 8 which make it incredibly difficult to even get the sheet on it. I can with quite a bit of elbow grease, I keep waterproof pads under each sheet as well and my licensor thought that was a great idea. Was totally fine with it. It's just a pain in the rear.

The pads don't look like there's any way they'd bulge or bunch which is fantastic, I have no idea how many pnp's I've had to pitch because the bottom started to get all wonky.

They are Walmart cheapies but are quite obviously safer than what Graco had going on imho.


I so wanted to get porta cribs but everything with infant beds seems so up in the air right now. I didn't want to invest that kind of money only to have to buy something completely new in the next 6 months

Willow can you please measure the depth of your playpen from the lowest point of the top rail downward to the higest point of the mattress? Im interested in the inside depth. I've recently heard of depths as low as 18.5 inches.

[nannyde]

They almost have to be cheap and near disposable with how often safety regs change on them!

If I knew I could buy one of something that cost me $500 but it would be "good" for a solid decade I would! It's hard however to justify spending more than $50 when you're not sure it's going to be compliant 6 months from now kwim?

It's probably just as tough for manufacturers to keep up too. Why spend all that time and effort coming up with a quality product made of quality materials only to have production ceased a few months after it's distributed?

I started buying the jmasons in the early 2000's so some are nearly a decade old. I have 5 in storage for when they start dying out. I have seven in service now from different generations of them. The very first run was the best but bit by bit they started cheapening them down. The last generation was much smaller and more shallow. I use the one I got from the last generation for newborns. As soon as the baby pulls up I switch out to the bigger deeper ones.

[nannyde]

Oh, I'm not sure. The parents provided them for me but I can find out if you would like. Three different families but all were the same.

Country could you please measure the inside and tell me the brands? Anyone else who could provide that info I would be very grateful.

[nannyde]

Last post .... I'm going to do a video blog about playpens and will tag this thread if it's ok with Michael. This is a HUGE issue in child care.

[Country Kids]

Country could you please measure the inside and tell me the brands? Anyone else who could provide that info I would be very grateful.

I don't have them anymore. The kids outgrew them and parents took them home.

I'm going to say they were possibly graco/2008-2009 models/and around 30 inches deep.

2 of them were navy blue and the other had jungle print. The bottoms had a slit on each end to stick a tab through to velco the mattress down on the outside bottom part.

I can't find anything though on the internet so maybe they were another brand.

[nannyde]

I don't have them anymore. The kids outgrew them and parents took them home.

I'm going to say they were possibly graco/2008-2009 models/and around 30 inches deep.

2 of them were navy blue and the other had jungle print. The bottoms had a slit on each end to stick a tab through to velco the mattress down on the outside bottom part.

I can't find anything though on the internet so maybe they were another brand.

ive never heard of a 30 inch deep playpen. I would pay dearly for that.

[Country Kids]

ive never heard of a 30 inch deep playpen. I would pay dearly for that.

I found them!!!!!

Evenflow is the maker and it looks like their play in packs are 30/32.5 possibly deep.

Don't know if you can do some research on their brand. I would look some more but I need to get dinner going and get to a class.

If you find anything out please let me know-

[LaLa1923]

http://blog.thebump.com/2013/02/20/cpsc-safer-standards-for-play-yards/?cm_mmc=facebook-_-feb13-_-newplayyardrules-_-none

I wish they would add quilted sheets, ect for these. I understand the reason they should be tight but I have 6 pack and plays that I have bought quilted sheets for and the sheets pull them so tight that there is a 6" gap exposing the flooring of the pack and plays on every single one of them. I have tried every brand of sheet and I have all different brands of pack and plays. I don't think that making them tight like that is improving the safety of the pack and play.

Have them made

[LaLa1923]

http://mobile.walmart.com/m/phoenix#ip/22151912

I have these...... I got mine for $25 and $32 new!
They have the straps to Velcro the pad

[LaLa1923]

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-1000003/babybjorn-travel-crib.jsp

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-453804/la-baby-large-commercial-grade-play-yard.jsp

If I had space I'd just buy ikea cribs.

These to pnps are deep

I really like the commercial grade pnp!!!