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  • Oneluckymom
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1008

    Felt a Little Down Yesterday

    So earlier in the weekend I posted about a family that interviewed on Saturday with a daughter that was "prone" to choking on food.

    Well they were very positive about my daycare and gave me the impression they wanted to start right away possibly today or Wednesday. The mom asked to take my packet home. At that point I hadn't even mentioned paperwork or my packet yet. But I thought ok...she seems really serious about joining. I went over my packet...she seemed in a hurry (just take packet and go). She stammered when I asked what she did for a living.

    I was ok with the interview but it did seemed "rushed".

    Fast forward to yesterday...I call to follow up and left a message asking if they did indeed want to start today as I would need to meet with her to go over a contract.

    She texts...thank you for meeting with us, but we've decided to keep her with our church daycare

    I am so over it....what a WASTE of my Saturday morning (I rescheduled to accommodate THEM!!

    She just wanted my packet
  • My3cents
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3387

    #2
    Originally posted by Oneluckymom
    So earlier in the weekend I posted about a family that interviewed on Saturday with a daughter that was "prone" to choking on food.

    Well they were very positive about my daycare and gave me the impression they wanted to start right away possibly today or Wednesday. The mom asked to take my packet home. At that point I hadn't even mentioned paperwork or my packet yet. But I thought ok...she seems really serious about joining. I went over my packet...she seemed in a hurry (just take packet and go). She stammered when I asked what she did for a living.

    I was ok with the interview but it did seemed "rushed".

    Fast forward to yesterday...I call to follow up and left a message asking if they did indeed want to start today as I would need to meet with her to go over a contract.

    She texts...thank you for meeting with us, but we've decided to keep her with our church daycare

    I am so over it....what a WASTE of my Saturday morning (I rescheduled to accommodate THEM!!

    She just wanted my packet
    Call her back and ask if she would mind dropping your packet back off. UGH~

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      I agree with 3cents. Ask for the info back.

      Good rule of thumb is to never send home your information until they are ready to sign on.

      I go over my handbook page by page so that they parents FULLY understand what my policies and rules are.

      If they (and I) decide that the family is going to enroll, I ask them to come over and sign paperwork, leave their first payment and their written schedule and then when they leave, they can take the packet with them of the other things I send home.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        I am sorry you were feeling so down yesterday too! I hope you are feeling up and positive again soon! happyface

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        • Oneluckymom
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1008

          #5
          I'm better...my husband was supportive too which helped. We invest so much of our time into this business and its so violating when someone just wants to take your info and run.

          I think I will text her now to drop off my packet today.

          Why would she ask for it if she wasn't really decided yet....OH WAIT I THINK I KNOW WHY!

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          • Binkybobo
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 212

            #6
            Originally posted by Oneluckymom
            So earlier in the weekend I posted about a family that interviewed on Saturday with a daughter that was "prone" to choking on food.

            Well they were very positive about my daycare and gave me the impression they wanted to start right away possibly today or Wednesday. The mom asked to take my packet home. At that point I hadn't even mentioned paperwork or my packet yet. But I thought ok...she seems really serious about joining. I went over my packet...she seemed in a hurry (just take packet and go). She stammered when I asked what she did for a living.

            I was ok with the interview but it did seemed "rushed".

            Fast forward to yesterday...I call to follow up and left a message asking if they did indeed want to start today as I would need to meet with her to go over a contract.

            She texts...thank you for meeting with us, but we've decided to keep her with our church daycare

            I am so over it....what a WASTE of my Saturday morning (I rescheduled to accommodate THEM!!

            She just wanted my packet
            I try not to beat myself up when someone does not sign up.Sure, I have wasted Saturday mornings on a family or two. It's part of the job. We have to put in the time to enjoy the rewards. There was one time when I honestly had no copies of my handboook, and had to tell a family that if they decided to enroll I would have paperwork for them. They ended up enrolling. Now that I am reading responses about withholding info unti enrollment it sounds like a great idea.

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            • mamac
              Tantrum Negotiator
              • Jan 2013
              • 772

              #7
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              I agree with 3cents. Ask for the info back.

              Good rule of thumb is to never send home your information until they are ready to sign on.

              I go over my handbook page by page so that they parents FULLY understand what my policies and rules are.

              If they (and I) decide that the family is going to enroll, I ask them to come over and sign paperwork, leave their first payment and their written schedule and then when they leave, they can take the packet with them of the other things I send home.
              So what do you do if they ask for a copy so they can look it over with their spouse? And as far as filling out the paperwork, you have them fill everything out in your presence? They don't take it home to fill out? I'm just wondering because in my experience, I have always been given the paperwork to take home and fill out or bring to the doctor's office, etc. and then I brought it back on the first day of attendance.

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              • Evansmom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 722

                #8
                I don't know if this would work for you but I have all my policies on my website and refer parents to that if they want more info. Then after that if they are still interested I proceed with filling out paperwork and payment.

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                • Oneluckymom
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1008

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mamac
                  So what do you do if they ask for a copy so they can look it over with their spouse? And as far as filling out the paperwork, you have them fill everything out in your presence? They don't take it home to fill out? I'm just wondering because in my experience, I have always been given the paperwork to take home and fill out or bring to the doctor's office, etc. and then I brought it back on the first day of attendance.
                  Yes, but I'm assuming you know for sure they are enrolling?

                  I have them take it home and fill it out. In this case she gave me the impression they were interested in enrolling and starting right away.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mamac
                    So what do you do if they ask for a copy so they can look it over with their spouse? And as far as filling out the paperwork, you have them fill everything out in your presence? They don't take it home to fill out? I'm just wondering because in my experience, I have always been given the paperwork to take home and fill out or bring to the doctor's office, etc. and then I brought it back on the first day of attendance.
                    Originally posted by Oneluckymom
                    Yes, but I'm assuming you know for sure they are enrolling?
                    I try to set up my interviews so BOTH parents are in attendance.

                    If they outright ask me if they can take my packet home, I say no. I tell them why and tell them that we go over my rules/policies pretty thoroughly during the interview and if they want to take notes, they surely can but my paperwork is saved for parents who sign on with me.

                    There is some paperwork they can bring home and fill out and just return it the first day of care but even then, that paperwork isn't given out until they have actually signed on with me.

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                    • melilley
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 5155

                      #11
                      I made a copy of my handbook/policies and have been going over it with the parents when they interview. I also have a website that has everything on it, however, I will give them a hard copy of it when they sign on and the first payment is made.
                      I know how you feel though. I had on interview last week or the week before and the woman sounded so excited to come and meet me. She emailed me a few times and then called. Well I waited around and she never called or showed. I had another one set up an interview for a Sunday (coincidentally she had a choking issue with her son too) so I made my schedule around her and she never came. She did call an hour before at least.
                      And then I had one yesterday who sounded like she needed full time care and when she got here she said well we need care in March, April we probably don't. Then the husband said they might need care in April. They weren't sure. Then they proceed to say that a family friend might have room for them in the summer so they needed care for March. Unbelievable! It is frustrating, but I try not to let it get to me. I do have an interview for Friday. Hopefully it goes well. The right families will come around someday for us!

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                      • wdmmom
                        Advanced Daycare.com
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2713

                        #12
                        I also stopped giving my handbook out after initial interviews. It started getting far too costly between the paper and the ink alone.

                        I now require 3 in person meetings prior to signing on a new family.

                        Initial interview I go over policies and go over my handbook page for page and rule for rule. We discuss rates in advance so there is no surprise there.

                        2nd interview I require both parents to attend (if applicable) and child if possible. They tour, and there is a q&a session to cover anything we might have left out during the previous interview. I also offer references during this time. At this time families are welcome to secure a deposit to start services.

                        3rd interview is to sign on. Fill out necessary paperwork, provide deposit if they haven't already, meet the child (if new baby), get a start date, and go over a normal daily schedule, and send them with a copy of the handbook and any other necessary paperwork.

                        Believe me, cutting back on who you provide paperwork to will reduce your costs significantly (if you pass out your handbook and interview often.)

                        I have done 1 Saturday appointment in my life and will NEVER do it again! I don't work weekends, therefore I don't interview on weekends.

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                        • Starburst
                          Provider in Training
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1522

                          #13
                          I would be very careful about giving packets or business information to families who have not signed up yet because there is a chance that it is a new provider that is fishing for information so they can get a feel of what their compitition is like and how they can top them.

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                          • Oneluckymom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1008

                            #14
                            Originally posted by starburst
                            i would be very careful about giving packets or business information to families who have not signed up yet because there is a chance that it is a new provider that is fishing for information so they can get a feel of what their compitition is like and how they can top them.
                            this.....exactly!

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                            • melilley
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 5155

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Starburst
                              I would be very careful about giving packets or business information to families who have not signed up yet because there is a chance that it is a new provider that is fishing for information so they can get a feel of what their compitition is like and how they can top them.
                              This is true, but it doesn't bother me if that's what others' intentions are. I have a website with my handbook and policies on it so that families can look at it and see if they are interested in my program. I am proud of my daycare and if others want to top me or copy me, then so be it! Someone on here once said that it's a compliment if people like your stuff and want to use it-that's just me. But with that said, I do see your point too!

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