Child Hurt With DCM Was Here

[LoraJenkins]

.....oh man....that stinks. how is the LO doing? has she even uttered a word about her bum?

She has played normally all day. Once in a while she will say her hiney hurts. I have given her tylenol per Mom's request. And she is staying over tonight so Mom & Dad can go shoot pool...they can't be too concerned.

[e.j.]

The DCG was standing next to her Mom already in her coat & hat. Mom was rushing her out the door- she had a "bad" day at work and was in a hurry to get home. My time-out chair is about a foot away from the front door. I had turned away to deal with 4 yr old DCB so I did not see exactly what happened, I just heard her hit the chair & start crying. DCM comforted her and left with DCG still crying.

Since she asked for an injury report, I would fill out the report myself and include the details you just gave us. I would describe in full how dcm was rushing dcg out the door and include what mom said to give you the idea she had had a bad day and was in a hurry to get home. "DCM stated...... She said was in a hurry to get home because..." I would also clearly state the child was in the custody of her mother when she fell.

I look at an injury report as something that can be used in court should a parent try to sue me for an injury. I want any and all details that pertain to the situation in the report. That way, if the parent does try to sue me at some later date, I have all of the info written down when the incident is still fresh in my mind. I would definitely have her sign the report and I'd keep a copy in the child's file. If she refuses to sign it, I would notate that and still keep a copy on file.

Wow, she's being dramatic. I would tell her if she thinks she is that injured to take her to the doctors and bring a note back from the doctor saying she is fine and can participate normally.

I would do this, too - mostly because she requested the injury report. I would want that piece of information in the child's file as one more layer of proof that the child's injury was minor and the child was fine outside of a bruise. If she refuses to bring the child to the dr. or says it's not necessary, I'd note that on the report.

[daycare]

no offense to your advice, but when you make a report ONLY add the facts of what you do know. I would not add the mom was having a bad day. WHy? YOu can't prove that.

[e.j.]

I wouldn't say, "Mom was having a bad day" but I would include any details that pointed to that fact if it contributed to the accident, which in this case, it seems to have. JMO, though.

[Abigail]

Did the mom sign the child out so she was her responsibility? You said you turned your back to go to another child so I'm assuming you already said goodbye and walked away. You did not witness it, but if you think about the best ways to write up a report you can easily make it a detailed FACT on what happened if you use the right wording. It is the right thing to do. If you saw it happen and noticed it bruised the next day you would fill one out just in case. The only thing I don't like it that you didn't see it and it was 50/50 on whose watch. Also, I don't fill out reports unless blood is involved or a bump or bruise or bite mark.

Just make sure to include that mom witnessed (such and such, whichever words she used). When the incident happened you already said goodbye and were out of the room as she was leaving with mom, but when you heard the noise and cry you came back and mom was comforting child as she was leaving without any communication to provider. Incident report was created next morning when child returned with (bump, bruise, etc) in the location.

My incident reports have a section where you do a followup plan or what to change. You could write something their too, but I have no advice as I'm not exactly 100% what happened. I would still do a report either way and I would NOT let mom fill the paperwork out. That is asking for trouble because you are only doing it that way to see how she words it and most likely you will not like how she words it causing drama.

[kitykids3]

Fill out a report just stating the facts, but including mom was next to her (my report asks who the child was playing with), and have her sign and date it. Then put it in the kids file. Pretty much end of story to me. She has her report filled out and you have your butt covered. And if they are going out to play pool leaving dck at your house overnight, then they aren't too concerned.

[LoraJenkins]

Well DCD picked up today. I gave him the injury report, he signed it and said nothing. I hope this is the end of it ;-)

[MarinaVanessa]

This was a very entertaining thread to read ::. I know that I'm at the end of the thread here at missed all of the excitement so I'll just suggest that if you don't already have something in your policy add something now that says that once the parent arrives you are not responsible.

Mine says:
"The daycare is responsible for the children from the moment that the client leaves the daycare and only until the client arrives to pick the child up. During the time that the client is present responsibility over that child is turned away from the childcare provider."

[daycare]

Did the mom sign the child out so she was her responsibility? You said you turned your back to go to another child so I'm assuming you already said goodbye and walked away. You did not witness it, but if you think about the best ways to write up a report you can easily make it a detailed FACT on what happened if you use the right wording. It is the right thing to do. If you saw it happen and noticed it bruised the next day you would fill one out just in case. The only thing I don't like it that you didn't see it and it was 50/50 on whose watch. Also, I don't fill out reports unless blood is involved or a bump or bruise or bite mark.

Just make sure to include that mom witnessed (such and such, whichever words she used). When the incident happened you already said goodbye and were out of the room as she was leaving with mom, but when you heard the noise and cry you came back and mom was comforting child as she was leaving without any communication to provider. Incident report was created next morning when child returned with (bump, bruise, etc) in the location.

My incident reports have a section where you do a followup plan or what to change. You could write something their too, but I have no advice as I'm not exactly 100% what happened. I would still do a report either way and I would NOT let mom fill the paperwork out. That is asking for trouble because you are only doing it that way to see how she words it and most likely you will not like how she words it causing drama.

I was told that even though the parents sign them out and assumes the responsibility of the child, this does not mean you are not liable.

[daycarediva]

I was told that even though the parents sign them out and assumes the responsibility of the child, this does not mean you are not liable.

My insurance agent said the same thing.

Essentially it is like anyone else being injured on your property (if dcm fell, a neighbor, a relative, etc) there is a chance you COULD be sued and held liable.

It is for THIS exact reason that I am putting a fence around the front yard. It's a large grassed area, and dcp's allow their children to run to their cars, which scares the daylights out of me as other people pull in/out at the same time. I ALWAYS remind kids to 'hold Mommy/Daddy's hand until you get into your seat so that you are SAFE.'

I had a child run right into the road/in front of a row of hedges/landscaped area because Mom said he didn't have to hold her hand, and was ALMOST hit by a car, (within 2-3 feet). The driver was a WRECK and had to pul over and compose herself for a bit. I told that dcm she either HELD HIS HAND or I would term immediately. No problems since.

[MarinaVanessa]

My insurance agent also said the same thing but when I talked to a lawyer (I'm in CA) he said that unless it was something that I was negligent on then I couldn't be held liable. Some examples that he gave were if the floor was littered with toys and the DCK tripped on one then I could still be held liable because it's my responsibility to make sure that the area is safe. If however I had it in my handbook that for safety reasons I require that all parents hold their kids hands when they leave and they didn't and the child ran into the street and got hurt then the parent would be responsible.

In this case because the child was being rushed by the parent and the child tripped on her own feet then I doubt that the provider could be held liable. But it always depends on the circumstances and how the situation is interpreted.

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

I would give her one.

"dcg fell at pickup time while leaving with Mom." Have Mom sign that she witnessed it.

I personally feel that it is silly, but dcg was injured while on your property.

LOL. Yes, this.

[dingledine]

That is strange that she would ask for one. I actually have it in my handbook that when the parent is there, the child is their responsibility.