Showing Up Early!

[lovemykidstoo]

So you're supposed to work an extra long day because she wants to go to the gym? ahhh, sorry momma oh brother.

[Meeko]

I wonder if these same parents who hammer on their provider's door 30 minutes before opening time, would do the same to a store???

Would they go to a store that opens at 9AM...at 8:30...and pound on the door because they can see the employees inside????

Good grief!!

[daycarediva]

I wonder if these same parents who hammer on their provider's door 30 minutes before opening time, would do the same to a store???

Would they go to a store that opens at 9AM...at 8:30...and pound on the door because they can see the employees inside????

Good grief!!

My dh said the same thing!!!!

my updated hours are now posted on the door, including the date they were effective.

Dcm showed up at 7:20 today & I opened the door at 7:30.

[lovemykidstoo]

My dh said the same thing!!!!

my updated hours are now posted on the door, including the date they were effective.

Dcm showed up at 7:20 today & I opened the door at 7:30.

She's not too bright is she?

[Bkind]

showing up early or late

I haven' read all the replies but we were i say were with hopes it will now stop happening the dropping off way to early to & way way later, so i did a news letter with all my grips and this was the biggie

what i did was..... go over with everyone what is the drop off & pick up time they really need b/c we do really want to accommodate everyone we can

but with that said I pull out my current rate a& anyone is welcome to change their existing agreement but you will also get the current childcare fees we now charge or you can keep your current fee and pick up & drop off as originally agreed

plus now we have a big big digital clock and it says are you late do you owe a dollar a minute please don't be late

i hope it works :confused:

new to the form hope i did this right

[Zoe]

My dh said the same thing!!!!

my updated hours are now posted on the door, including the date they were effective.

Dcm showed up at 7:20 today & I opened the door at 7:30.

At this point I think she's testing to see how far she can get with you. She knows you open at 7:30 but she's seeing just how early she can get you to open the door. So when she showed up ten minutes early and it didn't work, I'm willing to bet you she thought "well tomorrow I'll show up 5 minutes early and see if she opens the door." Stick to your guns! Even if she shows up at 7:29 don't open the door!

If this were any other client, I'd open the door early, but this one is acting like a toddler and doesn't deserve flexibility.

[Bkind]

good for u this what i try to tell my husband to do he doesn't like to be confrontational

[daycarediva]

I agree that at this point, she is trying to play me. Previously dcm had NO issues showing up early, and would arrive at 7:30-7:45 when she had to be at work at 8. She now has to be at work at 9. Her gym is on her way to work, both are within 5 minutes of my house. I think she could drop dcg off at 7:30, work out for 45-60 minutes, shower and be at work on time.

[Blackcat31]

I agree that at this point, she is trying to play me. Previously dcm had NO issues showing up early, and would arrive at 7:30-7:45 when she had to be at work at 8. She now has to be at work at 9. Her gym is on her way to work, both are within 5 minutes of my house. I think she could drop dcg off at 7:30, work out for 45-60 minutes, shower and be at work on time.

The fastest easiest way to cure this is to attach a hefty fee to every minute she arrives early.

The second she pulls into your driveway, begin billing her $1 per minute.

Explain to her that even though she isn't in the home, she IS on your property and that you are automatically liable for her once she enters your property so you HAVE to bill her extra to make up for that liability.

If she arrives at 7:25 and wasn't scheduled to arrive until 7:30, bill her for $5 additional dollars. Do this EVERY.SINGLE time.

I GUARANTEE you that she will stop showing up early if you bill her for it.

[littlemissmuffet]

DCG is my first drop off since terminating a family. My hours of operation are now decreased from 6-6 to 7:30-5:30.

I am NOT going back to early mornings again, ever. 7:30 opening allows me to get my older kids up, fed, and on the bus and get my younger kids up, dressed and ready at a reasonable time.

Dcg is contracted (hours dcm wrote in herself) for 7:30-5:30. (10 hour MAX per contract) Last Friday she showed up at 7, and I had the door open to put dd & ds on the bus, so they came in. I said "Oh, you're here early!" and dcm apologized "Oh yeah, sorry I forgot to tell you I have to be at work a little early." I did tell her that she needs to let me know as my hours have changed because I no longer have to accomodate other dcf. Then ds's bus arrived and dcm left, nothing else was said about it.

Fast forward to today, dcm attempts to drop off at 7, AGAIN without ASKING. There was no school today, and I heard her pull in, and knock, but I didn't open the door until 7:25. I did sit here and watch the news and drink my coffee. Dcm was upset when I opened the door. "I was just going to call you to make sure you were open today! We have been waiting in the car for almost 30 minutes!" To which I responded....

"I open at 7:30, you are scheduled to be here at 7:30. Do you need to go into work early again?" dcm stood there with her mouth hanging open. THEN she says "But you are already up and ready because of your kids, I don't see the big deal!" Apparantly a 30minute early drop off 'isn't a big deal'.


I pulled our contract and showed her what she signed, and she said that it hadn't been a problem previously (I had allowed her to drop off a little early before because I had that other DCF and it wasn't a huge deal to me, but that was always SCHEDULED!) I even sent home a notice when my hours of operation changed, and another family moved back their drop off from 7 to 7:30. I told DCM that I would be willing to open early to accomodate her needs AS NEEDED,with notice,the previous day, for the fees set (for out of normal operational hours, and over my 10 hour max).

Dcm was SO MAD. She kept saying "But dcg will only play while your kids are getting on the bus!"

No dcm. Even if that were the case, NO.

I just got 'the text' saying her early hours are going to be posted and will be regular/1-2x a week and that if I can't 'work with her' she might have to find somewhere else for dcg to go.

I'm calling her bluff. I just said "Ok dcm, thanks for letting me know. Per our contract---termination stuff here..."

BYE!!!!!!!

[MarinaVanessa]

This whole thread had me like this the whole time I read DCM's antics -->

I can understand DCM's confusion at first but c'mon the situation and policies have been explained to her over and over again CLEARLY now and she is still testing. I know that DCP's sometimes do this and this is the exact reason why I chose to buy my keyless entry system and give my DCP's access codes to my home based on their contracted schedules. I was so TIRED of having to explain myself over and over and over and having clients push the early pick ups and late drop offs. If you are scheduled for 7:30am and it's 7:29am you are not getting in, try it. If you are scheduled to pick up at 5:30pm and you arrive at 5:31pm guess what ... door isn't opening buddy and I'll open up and give you the stink eye .

As many times as this very thing has happened to me it never ceases to amaze me how far clients will push for "special".

[daycarediva]

This whole thread had me like this the whole time I read DCM's antics -->

I can understand DCM's confusion at first but c'mon the situation and policies have been explained to her over and over again CLEARLY now and she is still testing. I know that DCP's sometimes do this and this is the exact reason why I chose to buy my keyless entry system and give my DCP's access codes to my home based on their contracted schedules. I was so TIRED of having to explain myself over and over and over and having clients push the early pick ups and late drop offs. If you are scheduled for 7:30am and it's 7:29am you are not getting in, try it. If you are scheduled to pick up at 5:30pm and you arrive at 5:31pm guess what ... door isn't opening buddy and I'll open up and give you the stink eye .

As many times as this very thing has happened to me it never ceases to amaze me how far clients will push for "special".

I NEED THIS! Where did you get it? Can I program it for 8 families + my own family?!!!

BC, that's an awesome idea and I may have to do just that. I think if I bill her for the early times she will start to understand. Drop off AT 7:30 means 7:30. NOT 7:29.

This morning it was "Dcg likes it so much here and I would hate to leave but I really need to drop her off at 7-7:15 sometimes." to which I replied "I know and I enjoy dcg coming here and am willing to maintain our current contract, and helping out on occassion, ONCE OR SO A MONTH. If you'd like I can give you the number for the referral office. Im sure they could find someone who will do 7-5:30." dcm back tracked IMMEDIATELY and said that she doesn't want to pay my fees ($10/half hour for over 10 hours AND/OR outside of contracted times). They are stiff, I agree but they are there for a reason. I don't want to work my entire life.

I wasn't nice about the blatant lie (work schedule did change, but not earlier as dcm said).

[julie]

Oh man, you are far KINDER than I would have been. I have zero tolerance for the "oh, we don't like the policies we signed so I am going to threaten leaving". I don't play that game, because that will always be their go-to whenever they don't like something. They are done with me at that point. I will always accept their termination right then, say it isn't working for me either, and then go and fill the spot for two weeks from that date. So, you are way kinder than me. I like how you are not opening until the exact second you open. Awesome!

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

I am horrified.

If it doesn't work for you then by all means, go find someplace else. Good grief!!!!

[cheerfuldom]

this is the kind of crap that is one of the reasons why I am closing down my daycare. I have no problem saying no to parents but the constant pushing. hinting, threatening is so exhausting! I just dont understand what goes thru a parents mind to keep up this behavior. All the sneaking around, passive aggressive tactics, sending hubby to do the dirty work? what is up with that?! I am just confused out how these parents normally are very easy to work with at their jobs for the most part, successful in other areas of life and that sort of thing.....yet cannot maintain an appropriate relationship with their daycare provider.

OP my guess is that their little angel is being very bratty at home and mom is trying to give her the old heave ho and letting you deal with her. you said that DCG is challenging in the morning. most of the time that means she is worse it home. mom is missing almost 2 hours with her in the morning to get a work out in and supposedly eat dinner together....if that was her logic, then why could she spend breakfast together and then workout in the evening? same difference right? i bet its because Dad is there to help in the evening and mom does not want to do it alone in the morning. am i right?