Had My First Visit Today...Got In Trouble For Swaddling...Need Advice

[Blackcat31]

When the babes I have grow up, I am done with under 12 months no matter what.

That is EXACTLY my plan as well.

I stopped taking babies a while back and then ammended it to taking babies of families I already had in care (no newbies) but these last 2 babies have wiped me out and the stress involved with changes that happen within the first year of life as well as the ever-changing rules and regs in regards to licensing have just done me in.

I have only a few months to go and no more babies for me.

[lovemykidstoo]

It is definitely left up to interpretation by county because we can use pnp, but can't use bassinets at all-not even for your own child during daycare hours. Well, I guess I should say that is what my licensor says, one of the other ones may say something else which ****s since you can also get a $200 fine for any sleep violations.

Since when can they tell you what to do with your own child? That's bologna. My consultant says I can do whatever I want with my own. That sounds like a consultant issue.

[Blackcat31]

Since when can they tell you what to do with your own child? That's bologna. My consultant says I can do whatever I want with my own. That sounds like a consultant issue.

No, it's part of the new cribs rules. We can't even have an heirloom crib on the property or we are citied for it.

Our children are baiscally considered daycare kids when we are open and operating when it comes to safe sleep.

[mema]

No, it's part of the new cribs rules. We can't even have an heirloom crib on the property or we are citied for it.

Our children are baiscally considered daycare kids when we are open and operating when it comes to safe sleep.

Here it isn't new. At least not for the licensor I have/had. When I got licensed they said this. I'm just glad my kids aren't little any longer. They pretty much do whatever. My dd still counts in my numbers, but that isn't a big deal.

[lovemykidstoo]

No, it's part of the new cribs rules. We can't even have an heirloom crib on the property or we are citied for it.

Our children are baiscally considered daycare kids when we are open and operating when it comes to safe sleep.

Wow that's something. I remember when I had my very first audit 12 years ago and the woman saying that she didn't care what I did with my own child. I'll have to ask her when she comes this time. I'm up for renewal so she'll be coming My kids are 12 and 14 now so it doesn't matter, but just curious.

[mrsp'slilpeeps]

And this is why I am unlicenced. Way too many rules and how are you supposed to manage a daycare if you are miserable because the kids are miserable?

I understand that they have rules that you must follow for the childs saftey but come on, some of the rules are rediculous.

[youretooloud]

And this is why I am unlicenced. Way too many rules and how are you supposed to manage a daycare if you are miserable because the kids are miserable?

I understand that they have rules that you must follow for the childs saftey but come on, some of the rules are rediculous.

I was thinking the same thing. It seems cruel to just put an infant on his or her back with no comfort items. How sad for these babies. It seems so cold and sterile. I keep picturing tiny infants in some orphanage with no blankets or snuggly things.

If I had to follow these insane rules, I wouldn't keep infants. I'd never be able to put them down since everything they need/want/deserve is deemed unsafe by people who have never raised a baby.

[MyAngels]

I was thinking the same thing. It seems cruel to just put an infant on his or her back with no comfort items. How sad for these babies. It seems so cold and sterile. I keep picturing tiny infants in some orphanage with no blankets or snuggly things.

If I had to follow these insane rules, I wouldn't keep infants. I'd never be able to put them down since everything they need/want/deserve is deemed unsafe by people who have never raised a baby.

I understand what you are saying, but the incidence of SIDS in the US has dropped by 50% since the introduction of the original Safe Sleep Standards in 1992.

The people responsible for these standards have done extensive research in this field and their efforts have, in my estimation, saved an untold number of babies.

I wish education in this area was both more plentiful and more in-depth.

[sammie]

Thank you all for you insight and advice! I really appreciate it!!

[melilley]

Wow that's something. I remember when I had my very first audit 12 years ago and the woman saying that she didn't care what I did with my own child. I'll have to ask her when she comes this time. I'm up for renewal so she'll be coming My kids are 12 and 14 now so it doesn't matter, but just curious.

When I went to orientation in MI last month, the consultant said that for our own kids we can do what we want, but in the same day she also said that we couldn't have cribs that weren't up to code in the house, it's confusing.

[Blackcat31]

I understand what you are saying, but the incidence of SIDS in the US has dropped by 50% since the introduction of the original Safe Sleep Standards in 1992.

The people responsible for these standards have done extensive research in this field and their efforts have, in my estimation, saved an untold number of babies.

I wish education in this area was both more plentiful and more in-depth.

I just did my SIDS re-training on Tues. The paperwork we got said that the # of SIDS deaths hasn't really declined as much as they would like us to believe.

Postneonatal mortality rates of several other causes of sudden unexpected infant death have increased significantly, particularly over the years 1999–2001 These observations increase the likelihood that some deaths previously classified as SIDS are now being classified in other categories and the true SIDS rate since 1999 may be static. (http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...16/5/1245.full)

Don't get me wrong, I am not disagreeing with you at all about safe sleep habits but it just isn't that cut and dry. IMO. The gal doing the training siad she honestly thinks the back-to-sleep method may change the outcome in some possible infant deaths but she fully believes that babies who die of SIDS are pre-programed with it from the get go and that 99.9% of the time she feels that there is nothing we can do to prevent it.

The same info goes with the infant mortality report that was cirulating in our state not to long ago. They want to make all these chanes to what providers can and cant do with infants all based on a certain number of infant deaths that occurred in child cares when they never actually said if the provider was negligent or not. Several of the deaths were suffocation, which is not SIDS and some of the other deaths were COMPLETELY unpreventable in my opinon.

We had a provder here in my community that had a baby die of SIDS while in her care. Baby was in the living room in the PNP on her back. Provider was right there. There was nothing that provider could have done differently.

It is scary and sad and ultimately I think changing some of our laws regarding family leave acts and maternity/paternity leaves so that infants can stay at home is the only REAL way we are going to be able to take hte spotlight and/or focus off of child care providers.

[youretooloud]

Years ago, you could leave your baby under a pillow, and that would be called sids. Anything that wasn't an illness, obvious child abuse, or an accident was caused sids. If the parents woke up the next morning and said "I have no idea what happened" it was labeled sids.

[Blackcat31]

Years ago, you could leave your baby under a pillow, and that would be called sids. Anything that wasn't an illness, obvious child abuse, or an accident was caused sids. If the parents woke up the next morning and said "I have no idea what happened" it was labeled sids.

Exactly! Now with medical advancements infant deaths can now be divided into categories that clearly define what happened so not everything is considered SIDS....which in turn makes it appear as though the number of SIDS deaths have dramatically declined.

Just like this whole Obamacare medical coverage change....employers are going to hire two part time employees to do one full time job to skip around having to insure them and that is going to make it appear as though the unemployment rate has declined and everyone is going to think the economy is on the upturn and getting better..... LOL! Sorry, mini rant....it just reminded me of that same concept.

[MyAngels]

I just did my SIDS re-training on Tues. The paperwork we got said that the # of SIDS deaths hasn't really declined as much as they would like us to believe.

Postneonatal mortality rates of several other causes of sudden unexpected infant death have increased significantly, particularly over the years 1999–2001 These observations increase the likelihood that some deaths previously classified as SIDS are now being classified in other categories and the true SIDS rate since 1999 may be static. (http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...16/5/1245.full)

Don't get me wrong, I am not disagreeing with you at all about safe sleep habits but it just isn't that cut and dry. IMO. The gal doing the training siad she honestly thinks the back-to-sleep method may change the outcome in some possible infant deaths but she fully believes that babies who die of SIDS are pre-programed with it from the get go and that 99.9% of the time she feels that there is nothing we can do to prevent it.

The same info goes with the infant mortality report that was cirulating in our state not to long ago. They want to make all these chanes to what providers can and cant do with infants all based on a certain number of infant deaths that occurred in child cares when they never actually said if the provider was negligent or not. Several of the deaths were suffocation, which is not SIDS and some of the other deaths were COMPLETELY unpreventable in my opinon.

We had a provder here in my community that had a baby die of SIDS while in her care. Baby was in the living room in the PNP on her back. Provider was right there. There was nothing that provider could have done differently.

It is scary and sad and ultimately I think changing some of our laws regarding family leave acts and maternity/paternity leaves so that infants can stay at home is the only REAL way we are going to be able to take hte spotlight and/or focus off of child care providers.

I agree that many deaths that used to be classified as SIDS were really not SIDS. However, the Safe Sleep Standards can and do prevent many children from dying a preventable death.

I don't think that the standards will necessarily prevent a true SIDS death, but they can prevent babies from dying because they were placed face down on a soft surface, or were suffocated by having many stuffed animals in their cribs, or because they were covered with a blanket that covered their faces, etc.

I think that the 50% reduction statistic is based on the fact that, because of the awareness that's been raised by the "Back to Sleep" campaign and others, many babies who might have been put into an unsafe sleep environment were not, and lived because of it .

[lovemykidstoo]

Exactly! Now with medical advancements infant deaths can now be divided into categories that clearly define what happened so not everything is considered SIDS....which in turn makes it appear as though the number of SIDS deaths have dramatically declined.

Just like this whole Obamacare medical coverage change....employers are going to hire two part time employees to do one full time job to skip around having to insure them and that is going to make it appear as though the unemployment rate has declined and everyone is going to think the economy is on the upturn and getting better..... LOL! Sorry, mini rant....it just reminded me of that same concept.

Don't get me started LOL! I'm with ya girl!